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  1. I didn't do a close examination of it but I might (yes, it's an exciting home life I lead). Crazy how New Orleans got under the cap. Weren't they over $100MM over with a crazy amount of it in past-paid bonus $ that can't go away by cutting/trading players? Presumably they cleared a huge chunk of it by putting it off for later (meaning they'd still have some cap issues next year, too); I mean there couldn't have been enough room to cut-cut-cut to have all that 'dead cap' space hit this year and still field a team.
  2. Damn. No regrets on hiding it. I think we all wanted the unverified source to be bs, as it often is. His poor family. What horrible news.
  3. I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just saying: a) he still has a lot to prove, and yes that includes not being handed a starting job again. He should have to beat out Moore for a starting job, seeing how Crowder is more proven as a slot receiver at this level than Moore. Ultimately a team wants its best 3 on the field. If that's Davis-Moore-Crowder, so be it. If it's Davis-Mims-Moore, that would be my preference. But since all are on the roster the starting jobs should be earned, not granted due to draft slot. b) you can't ignore all but the 2-3 games you'd like to cherry
  4. So I just hid a post (and some that quoted it) regarding an unconfirmed update by someone on twitter. I can un-hide it if it becomes verified. Until then please don't re-post it again.
  5. meh they were fine. You can't extrapolate a couple games to a whole season by throwing out the games you don't want to count from said extrapolation. Know what this is? 53/80 (66%) - 5 TDs, 1 INT - 111.8 QB rating - record of 2-1 (a lone 1-point loss against the SB champs) That's a cherry-picked 3-game stretch to end Geno Smith's 2014 season. Turns out you can't look at his best 3-game stretch on a per-game basis and extrapolate that over a full season. Not unless you're - as you're putting it - just seeing what you want to see. I have nothing against Mims. He was supposed
  6. Oh come on. I have nothing against Mims. Just waiting for his production to match his hype & that's it. I don't see this as any different than the omg omg wailing when we picked one QB over another. Let's see if Wilson's production matches his hype as well.
  7. +1 Thread title should be Denzel Mims hopes to hold onto starting job or Denzel Mims hopes to play most of this football season or Denzel Mims hopes to vindicate GM who traded down and drafted him, instead of staying pat and drafting coverage nightmare WR taken by Pittsburgh who was sitting right there at Jets' initial draft slot Ok admittedly that last one would be a long title. Still...
  8. He was a one-read, stare-down QB who threw something on the order 18 dropped interceptions (on top of the 15 that weren't dropped) in 15 games (against a particularly favorable schedule at that, which even included only favorable weather). While of course not an official stat, they still happened, and it's foolishness to expect that type of unlikely luck to be repeatable. That off-season was a painful memory of one stupid, avoidable decision after the other (the handling and re-signing of Fitz was just the most clownshoes of the lot). Also a number of us called them out, one after t
  9. The problem is you're looking at it as a purchase, not a rental. Teams rent players; they don't sign them to lifetime contracts. You sign a player to a term, from year x to year y, just like the rental market. Rental real estate market - which is still real estate - it an excellent analogy, as I outlined.
  10. I outlined it earlier in the thread. On top of those 6, there are at least 3 more who are likely (if not clearly) getting extended in that range (e.g. Jamal Adams). It's a straw-man argument because you're arguing against a point no one's making (pretty much the definition of the term): no one is saying Maye's an elite safety, nor is anyone saying that he should be paid as an elite safety in the $14MM+ range. Also I never said he was the best player on a horrid team. I said he was named the team's MVP. Lastly, like with many positions at a given point in time, each of the top
  11. @kthisguy is totally right, though. The day that extension contract was offered, Maye was already under contract for 1 year $10.6MM. Douglas then made him a 3-year offer - in its effect, this is an extension for 2 years tagged to the end of the contract he already has - where the additional 2 years were at a rate under $7MM/year. The rental real estate market is actually a really good analogy here: Say you've got this one apartment for rent in a property you owned - let's call it the Jet Nut-house just to put a name on it (sorry I couldn't resist lol) - and the going rate
  12. Yes of course. Jets did that with Vilma years ago. You could look it up but I think it was something like it was for a 4th round pick that upgrades to a 2nd round pick if he signs an extension before his contract expires. So they let the contract expire the following March and then he signed a new contract - technically not an extension - like a day later or something.
  13. I think a team that'd acquire Maye has to play by the same rules the Jets have to right now: the deadline to extend him is over. This came up a couple years back when the Steelers were in the same situation with Bell. They had him on the trading block that summer and early fall, but no one bit because he'd be a UFA again after (what became) his holdout season. So another team can't do squat with Maye now to lock him up for future years. Best they can do to control him further is they'd have the option of franchise tagging him next year. That doesn't sound like much incentive to fork
  14. Sure the team can accept less if they like, but I imagine it's harder to find a trade partner now who's willing to offer up anything serious. I mean, can a new team even award him an extension now that the deadline has passed? I think even a new team would have to wait until 2022 to sign him for the 2022 season & beyond to get anything signed. So how high of a draft pick would another team be willing to fork over for a not-elite safety who's playing under the franchise tag?
  15. The point is more that the incumbent team MVP was publicly promised a good faith extension negotiation, and it turns out it was a farce. It's one thing if that happens now & then; it's another if that's 100% been the pattern without exception, since the latter can induce future holdouts and such. Crying wolf and all that. This above post misses the point of the discussion and further throws in straw-man arguments as though anyone has made the claim he's an elite safety or should be paid like one. No one has. The top 10 safeties either already make (or some, like Adams & at le
  16. The bolded part is untrue. I take for granted a team is willing to spend less on a player if they know the prior team is entitled to upwards of two 1st round picks. Some teams - many, I'm sure - wouldn't ante up any draft picks higher than maybe round 3 or 4 for a very good but not great safety, which buys the privilege of offering that player an $11-12MM/year contract. So while in the literal sense he could shop himself around, in practical terms he could not. So yeah he signed his tag tender, but he had little other option but to do just that: the Jets were so far under the cap they did
  17. I think it's easy to forget how young these players are sometimes. His mom shouldn't be that "silver" yet. Falk is in his mid-20s so his mom is probably 45-55; hardly a senior and very unlikely to be suffering dementia. Hopefully she's already been found ok and we'll read about it later this morning/afternoon.
  18. There's a wide chasm between the team's reported top offer and making him one of the highest paid safeties in the league. If it's reported accurately, the team's top offer was closer to half that - nominally less than half - than it was to being in that top 5-6 range. The offer was, in effect, a non-offer at ~$6.7MM that had zero chance of being signed. I fail to see the upside of this exercise of stringing the player along for months, and then dropping that on him. Saying this publicly months ago: “Yeah, still a priority to keep Marcus here long term and we have had productive texts bac
  19. And what is given that we know so far? From what's been leaked (assuming it's true): 1. Maye has a contract for 1 year at $10.6MM. (All salary, and all exclusively for the 2021 season alone; any extension talks were effectively for 2022 and beyond.) 2. Maye rejected a team offer of a 2 year $13.4MM ($6.7MM/yr) extension past 2021. Absent a total facepalm of a 2021 season, I think it's unlikely Maye will be in for any "rude awakening" you alluded to where he finds none of the league's safety-needy teams would ante up more than that (if not much more). There are presently 6 s
  20. I said and alluded to nothing of the sort. Wanting a contract extension done at under $7MM/year = not really wanting a contract extension done.
  21. I wasn’t at all suggesting they had to ante up huge (per alone top 5 safety $) for Maye. More that Douglas went out of his way publicly fawning what a priority it was to get a contract done to lock him up, that it was nonsense, and it’s starting to look like a pattern. That’s more the reputation I was referring to, not some arbitrary, self imposed rule some feel we must adhere to, about taking care of one’s own drafted players even to the point of the team’s detriment.
  22. This came up with Bell in his sit-out season, but aren't other teams in the same boat as the Jets now? I mean, if they trade for him then he's just playing under the tag and they can't sign him to an extension until the season's over, right? Especially with the extension deadline now in the past, I can't imagine teams are lining up to give high picks for Maye outright, when he's in need of a big contract, let alone when they can't even offer him a contract until 2022, though a team would still have the option of tagging him again in 2022. I've been surprised plenty of times before, but my
  23. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. But to clarify: A contract for 3 years $24MM means the $24MM includes not just salary but also all signing bonuses, roster bonuses, option bonuses, workout bonuses, etc. over the life of the contract. It's not just the salary part you look at after the signing bonus. There's been no leak of how much of the Jets (alleged 3 yr / $24MM) top offer would have been signing bonus. The only thing I think people are guessing is that perhaps the first 2 years ($16MM, if year 3 is $8MM) is guaranteed; but that's not the same thing as signing bonuse
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