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  1. First reaction was Gholston but then I thought, it's not really his fault that he just sucked and was too slow for the NFL. Then I moved on to Tebow but again, not his fault he was traded here. Then thought Jason Taylor for obvious reasons but at least he seemed to be a good teammate while here. I then thought about Santonio but when really looking deep into who I think affected this team most negatively I have to go with Derrick Mason. 

    The signing of Mason is what lead to Cotchery asking to leave the team. He ruined the chemistry in the WR room which would eventually lead to Santonio being given that fake Captain spot and him blowing up the whole season. He complained to the press about coaching and held secret meetings with Rex and Plaxico to complain about the offense. Not only did Mason do all that off the field, but on the field he was absolute garbage. He was signed in August and traded in October after having 13 catches for 115 yards in 5 games.

  2. 50 minutes ago, nico002 said:

    Sorry but scraping week 4 has little to do with covid, why wouldn’t you scrap the first two weeks? The new cba has a shorter pre season anyway no?

    Scrapping Week 4 might make sense if they essentially do a "mini-quarantine" of players. It gives them 2 weeks to keep teams separated so if any player shows symptoms they can be held away to hopefully stop the spread in its tracks. 

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    Man this guy's career and image went down hill fast. We were lucky to get rid of him when we did...although I suppose moving him before the big pay day would have been better!

    How did a party at the N.J. home of former Jets player turn into a deadly encounter?

    Updated Jun 28, 2020; Posted Jun 28, 2020

    It had been a fairly typical day.

    The two friends had spent the afternoon at a party in Connecticut, hanging out and having a good time.

    “We had a good day,” said Berlin Brun, describing the day he spent last Saturday with Roobino Philemon, 30. “All we did was laugh and talk about the future and the plans that we had.”

    On their way back to N.J., Philemon and Brun, both of West Orange, decided “at the last minute” to accept the invitation from a woman that Philemon had known for a few years and attend another party in Bridgewater.

    But when they arrived at the party at a Bayberry Road address shortly after 11:30 p.m., they were greeted by two men who told them they were not welcome and were asked to leave, Brun said.

    They never entered the home, Brun said, but the exchange outside was cordial enough, and the two men agreed to leave. There was no hostility, Brun added, which is why he still can’t understand why an encounter turned violent minutes later.

    Brun said he and Philemon stayed out front in Philemon’s car for a few minutes and then drove to the side of the home on Foothill Road as they waited for three women who were also leaving the party. But as they were waiting, the homeowner, later identified as Linden native and former NFL Pro Bowler Muhammad Wilkerson, tapped on the window telling them again they had to leave, Brun said. (Wilkerson bought the home through a limited liability company in 2016, according to property records.)

    Unbeknownst to Brun and Philemon, the police had already been called to the house twice that night for noise complaints by neighbors. Brun said he sensed the men outside were on edge.

    “Y’all gotta go, y’all gotta go,” Brun recalls one of the men saying. “This is making my neighbors nervous.”

    But as they began “to roll slowly down” the street adjacent to Wilkerson’s home in Philemon’s 2012 black Dodge Charger, Wilkerson’s brother, Hafeez Brown, 33, of Linden, allegedly fired multiple shots at the vehicle from behind, according to a criminal complaint. One of the bullets entered through the rear window, then the driver’s seat before piercing Philemon’s back, Brun said.

    Brun said he jumped out of the car and dragged Philemon to the back of the car, called 911 and began driving to a hospital before flagging down an officer for help. Officers provided emergency medical care before an ambulance arrived and took Philemon to a nearby trauma center, where he was pronounced dead.

    Brun said neither he or Philemon knew Wilkerson or Brown, and Brun said the two men did not know that the Bridgewater home was owned by Wilkerson, who has not been charged with any wrongdoing in Philemon’s death.

    “They never disrespected us,” he said. “They never said anything negative to us. We did the exact same thing. The fact that they started shooting at us is where we are puzzled for why they even decided to do that.”

    A week later, Brun said he still does not have answers.

    “My question is ‘Why?’” Brun asked. “Because we were leaving. We didn’t have any type of disagreement or anything like that. My question is why, why did you choose to do something like this?”

    “I need to know why,” he said. “He took my best friend. He took a father. He took a son. He took a family member and a loving friend.”

    Police have released few details regarding the motive of the alleged homicide.

    The killing has unnerved residents in a town where there was was only one homicide from 2014 to 2018, according to FBI crime data. A resident, who said she has lived on Bayberry Road for more than 50 years and asked not to be identified, said when she and her husband awoke to a police presence Sunday morning, they thought there had been a bad car crash on their typically quiet street.

    Bridgewater police Captain John Mitzak told NJ Advance Media that police responded to Wilkerson’s home twice on the night of the shooting for noise complaints — around 6 p.m. and 10 p.m. (Bridgewater police have not released the noise complaint reports, citing an ongoing criminal investigation.)

    A third call came at 11:53 p.m. from Brun, an urgent plea for help for his friend who had been shot. Brun said he tried to prop Philemon’s head as emergency responders cared for him, but sensed his best friend was dying.

    “The fact that I am still alive and he is not, it bothers me,” Brun said.

    After the shooting, a shelter in place was called for the area between 2:10 a.m. and 3:30 a.m. Sunday. A SWAT team responded to the Bayberry Road home, where five people cooperated without incident. Police later identified Brown as being one of the occupants in the home they responded to, authorities said.

    Brown, who previously pleaded guilty to distribution of heroin in 2012, has been charged with first-degree murder and other firearm offenses. He was ordered by a Somerset County Superior Court judge Thursday to continue to be detained.

    “The presumption of innocence is not just a legal formality. Mr. Brown, like any other citizen, is innocent until proven guilty, and looks forward to his day in court,” attorneys Joshua F. McMahon and Michael Noriega said in a statement.

    Upon executing a search warrant at Wilkerson’s home, police allegedly recovered a “substantial” amount of marijuana and two firearms and ammunition.

    George A. Bease, 32, of Bridgewater, was charged with second degree possession of a firearm while in the course of committing a controlled dangerous substance offense. According to the criminal complaint, police recovered packaging material and an amount of money “consistent with the intent to distribute” marijuana.

    Bease is not charged in connection with Philemon’s death and was ordered released by a Superior Court judge Thursday.

    Brown, Bease and Wilkerson each went to Linden High School where they played on the basketball team. Wilkerson went on to solidify himself as one of the best athletes to come out of New Jersey over the last decade.

    The New York Jets selected him in the first round of the 2011 NFL Draft after he played at Temple University. Wilkerson went on to play seven years for the local team, making one Pro Bowl and two second-team All-Pro teams. He ended his NFL career with the Green Bay Packers.

    “Mr. Wilkerson’s thoughts and prayers go out to all the individuals affected by this tragedy,” said a spokesman for Wilkerson.

    Friends described Philemon as a loving father who had a contagious smile that he always flashed, whether it was at the Cresmont Country Club in West Orange, where he caddied for more than a decade, or at hangouts with friends.

    He is survived by a young son and daughter.

    Last year, Philemon received his degree in occupational therapy from Eastwick College and was working in the field in Staten Island. He had planned to back to school to continue to earn additional degrees as an occupational therapist, Brun said.

    A GoFundMe established in his honor doubled its goal of $10,000 to help pay for his funeral expenses and droves of family and friends have paid respects to Philemon on social media.

    Roobino Taron Philemon was and forever a stand up guy & father,” one friend wrote. “Full of life.”

  4. 1 minute ago, 14 in Green said:

    Could Douglas have handled this any worse?

    Didnt make the trade last season.... didn’t begin contract talks or look to trade him before the draft.... kept his head in the sand like a fan on a message board doing the “two more years of control” thing,...

    AND HERE WE ARE!!!!!

    and yet.........there is still nothing Jamal can do about it. 

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  5. 4 minutes ago, slats said:

    Not a fan of this concept. We argue enough over Jamal Adams and Sam Darnold, now you want to have a “civil discussion,” about systematic, institutional racism? And the conversations you have in “private,” aren’t going to effect the conversations that go on publicly here? 

    Can’t stop you from doing it, but if you do, the format shouldn’t be this site’s pm system, but some other format. 

    And try to keep the certain animosity there. Please don’t bring it here (he said fruitlessly). 

    Not trying to steal 80's thunder but I think the whole point of the PM (or QT) in this case is to have rational discussion/debate that may get heated but not personal. If things do start headed down that path, the offender will be removed and everyone else will still be able to participate. No disrespect but that is kind of what we were looking to do in the threads addressing this topic but they keep getting locked. which not only punishes the offender but everyone else as well. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

    Alright - happy birthday Darnold.

    Now - can we please forbid posts claiming he is "only 23 years old" from here on out? He's a 3rd year starter - a veteran player at this point. The average NFL career is 3.3 years. 

    That 3.3 years thing is so over and misused. It includes every UDFA player and practice squad signee that could only last a few weeks in the NFL. For instance, the average career for a 1st round pick is over 9 years. The average career for a player who accrues 3 years of pension-credited seasons is over 7 years. 

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  7. 15 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

    Yeah it is.  That said, a story like this one: 

    On September 27, 1993, Bieniemy was arrested in Boulder, Colorado for allegedly harassing a parking attendant.[9] According to the police report, "Bieniemy was with five friends in a parking lot when he allegedly approached a lot attendant from behind and grabbed her by the neck. The victim told police the contact was not painful, but it startled her. She said the man also made comments while holding her."[10] As a result of this incident, Bieniemy was banned from the University of Colorado Boulder campus for one year. [11] 

    ...won't go unnoticed, especially in this day and age.  Then there's also the assault on a firefighter.

    It would take less than 5 minutes for one of the beat reporters looking for a hot story to latch on to his controversial past and turn it into an absolute sh*tshow.

    C'mon man just come out and say Manish. 

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  8. 1 hour ago, 14 in Green said:

    I'd be happy with Bienemy if he was the best candidate.

    I'm calling BS here though, because you asking this question today makes me think you have another motive here. If that's the case why not just raise it, and lets talk about it for a few minutes before the thread gets locked. 

    I'm not even going to fall into your trap so I won't address it. Here is why I thought about this today though:

    • It's June 4th, there's not a lot of football news available
    • Our HC is not on the firmest ground, a large portion of the fanbase dislikes him
    • We have a GM who just conducted his first FA and draft and has really put his stamp on the team
    • IF Gase is let go for whatever reason during or shortly after the season, Bieniemy would (as of today) be considered the best candidate
    • I wonder if Bieniemy would be able to take Sam to the next level based on his experience with Mahomes/Reid
    • I wonder how the rest of JN feels about Bieniemy
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  9. Worst FA in terms of wasted money has to be Trumaine Johnson but Worst FA in terms of production has to be that CB we signed from Miami that no-showed the Preseason game and just disappeared from the team. Can't remember his name and unfortunately googling "Jets Defensive Back Disappears" brings up WAYYY too many results. 

  10. 14 hours ago, Philc1 said:

    Because when a player is considered the world’s best generational Safety he should have more than 2 picks in 3 seasons


    and one of those picks was on Jared Stidham


    14 hours ago, T0mShane said:

    The other was on Matt Cassell

    Next year Jamal will be up against Stidham x2, Allen x2, Tua may be in late x2, throw in an old Philip Rivers, a 2nd year K. Murray, an unproven Lock and who knows who the Chargers QB will be. 

    Point being, most of those are all good teams that will be favorites against the Jets but not necessarily good quarterbacks. Maybe the gameplan is for Jamal to increase all those LB stats and all of a sudden that 1st and 3rd round picks trade deal becomes 1st and 2nd or 1st, 3rd plus player. Joey D. is out here playing 4D chess. 

  11. 50 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

    His other stats aren't that good either, the interceptions are just glaring.  His sacks are an outlier, and not really what he's there for, considering 5 of 6.5 came against two bad rookie QBs.  You have to refresh twice before you see him on ESPN.com for passes defended, where he's tied for 98th.  He had half as many tackles as the top safety, he's not top 5 in safety tackles, he's not top 10 in safety tackles, he's not top 15 in safety tackles, he's not top 20 in safety tackles, he is tied for 25th.  In solo tackles, he wasn't top 20 either.  He did, again, lead the league in sacks by a DB, and you know why?  Because he's an extra linebacker - which, in comparison, he was tied for 21st among linebackers.

    Serious answer, that's a dumb question.  One INT wouldn't make him better.  After 3 seasons Ed Reed had 21 INTs, Troy had 7 INTs, Dawkins had 8.  Yet, people talk about Adams like he's in this class.

    This is a legit counterpoint and gives me something to think about. Kudos sir. 

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  12. 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

    Putting Adams in the category of either of those first 2 Safeties you listed is completely laughable.  And McCourty money falls well short of what Adams' demands will be.

    As for Milloy, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, Belichick dumped Milloy 5 days before the 2003 season.  They went 14-2 and won the Super Bowl that year.

    I'm sorry, I thought your argument was that "successful franchises" would have no problem trading away their best safeties so that they could use the resources in other areas......is that not what we are discussing right now? 


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