You have NO IDEA if that's true or not and you won't until those players or other players who are brought in are allowed to play. As long as Favre is here the franchise is paralyzed. They are going nowhere with a QB who can't stop throwing picks. I don't care how much talent they have. That's common sense. I can't believe this is even an argument. How awful would he have to play for the reality of the player he is in 2009 to penetrate the legend of a player who doesn't exist anymore? If he had thrown 40 picks some people would still be deluding themselves into thinking the 1995 favre was gonna