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Cyberjet

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  1. A witch hunt - no. There are two main players to blame for this fiasco - BB and Goodell. BB for his arrogance and simple unethical practices and Goodell for not fully investigating the ramifications of BB cheating. The real issue is not that the Patriots taped the opposing sidelines (A far too general term) and therefore need to be punished, rather it is what they taped and more importantly what they did with the information garnered from the video. This is a sports scandal - scandals should be fully investigated, not half-assed as the NFL has done and expect a trained prosecuto
  2. Surely you mean he SPECULATED that there was no competitive advantage. To be quite honest it is statements like that which will get the commissioner in trouble - it shows his bias in minimizing the ramifications of an illegal action by sheer speculation - without fact or foundation. Anyway it's way past my bedtime.
  3. You know why we are speculating? - because the NFL has not done a thorough enough investigation.( By the way the use of the word maybe implies speculation) Fact: Walsh is not the only horse. Have we heard any other facts from the other horses - NO. The NFL has chosen not to press the matter any further. Fact: BB lied to the commissioner that he misinterpreted the rules. Walsh (your horse) said the Pats were aware that they shouldn't get caught back in 2001. Fact: Walsh handed the tapes over to Ernie Adams after the game. Fact: The Patriots have been doing this since
  4. I didn't say i didn't believe you that they change their signals. Read my post closely. Your assumption, as the commissioner's, is that teams change their signals game to game. I agree with that premise. You as well as the commissioner conclude that because teams change their signals game to game videotaping the signals gives absolutely no competitive advantage. (The implication being the Pats broke the rules, but had no significance) Case closed - spygate is over. Hold on - wait a minute - BB is a football genius - everybody agrees. He is known as the most intense detailed orie
  5. If teams changed signals game to game and therefore taping signals had no benefit to a team for FUTURE games then why would BB waste Ernie Adams' time doing this if there was no benefit? Answer: Either you are incorrect and that the VIDEOTAPING of signals allowed a more comprehensive review particularly in the hands of GEEK Adams or they used them for assessment during the games. ( Remember the Pats had more than one video guy at the games and each one could have had different tasks and duties). The Patriots did get valuable info out of this - why else would BB have done this for EIGHT years!
  6. What amazes me about this situation is how reactive (ie.defensive) as opposed to proactive the NFL has been. Walsh today revealed that BB lied to the commissioner's face and he takes it sitting down. BB should be further punished for not being forthright about his actions - period BIG Message sent. Secondly - Walsh revealed that he handed the tapes to Ernie Adams. Has Adams been even questioned?? Was he one of the 50 people questioned? If not why not? The commissioner should have grilled the Pats personnel and left no stone unturned. Make no mistake this guy Ernie Adams got useable inf
  7. The official investigation may be, but not its ramifications: - Goodell created a PR nightmare by saying it was over after a 2 week investigation - Goodell punished the Patriots for taping defensive signals of the Jets and some perceived 'insignificant' 5 tapes from 2006 and 2007. It was revealed today that Goodell never personally reviewed the 5 other tapes. - Goodell then destroyed the evidence most of which he never personally reviewed. - it wasn't until the press and Sen Specter pressured the NFL was it officially revealed that BB had been doing this since the y
  8. What he does on his own personal time has no bearing on his greatness as a coach.
  9. And this justifies what?? What will come of Walsh's testimony is not simply the fact the Pats taped other coaches signals,but the veracity and sophistication in which it was pursued. BB besides being a narcissistic callous boob is totally dedicated to detail and extremes in execution. Make no mistake this taping was pursued with vigor and every damn possible advantage was squeezed out by his film psychos. It won't surprise me if Walsh testifies he left the field before halftime and gave the tapes to Patriot officials thus leaving open the possibility that they were broken down by the Pats staf
  10. QUOTE=The Troll;868104]Without the supposed Super Bowl walkthrough tape, this is pretty weak. I'm so embarrassed.
  11. I don't know if you caught Peter King's MMQB article last week but he had an interesting quote from BB: Quote of the Week II "Do what you love, and be ready to put everything you have into it ... There's no 'I' in cheat. There is an 'I' in 'videotaping' and what that 'I' stands for is immediate halftime adjustments.'' --New England coach Bill Belichick, in a speech to 3,200 students and townspeople at Salem State (Mass.) College on Wednesday night. The original quote which was as unoriginal as you can get and serious barf material: Quote of the Week II
  12. Denial - come you can say it - he focused on the other teams coaches by videotaping their signals which was against the rules which means he was cheating and at the very least being unethical. This did give the Pats a slight advantage at the very least in future games and quite possibly in halftime adjustments because we all know our coach would not invest such energy and detail if it did not. Now was that so hard.
  13. Bottom line - if BB was not a winning coach he would have been fired. Simple fact. Winning cures all ills and people are willing to look the other way. In the infamous words of South Park - if you cheat and are a winner you are clever and ingenious - if you cheat and are not successful you are a loser and will be punished. BB is a crap person - he deserves all the negative press. He's a delusional narcissistic a-hole in his own little world with his loyal following that can do know wrong or who make excuses for his boorish behaviour.
  14. The reality is that new signees generally get more $$ than the veterans who are already under contract. Look at the Pats - A. Thomas, etc. signed for more $$ than the established veterans already on the team. If everybody took the road that they deserve more $$ than the new signee there would be constant bickering,chaos, etc. Baker is on the wrong end of this deal - it's too bad. The Jets made an effort to help him out within his contract by advancing $$. Bubba Franks may be making more $$ THIS year, but Baker probably does not take into account the bonus $$, advance,etc. Besides, Franks has
  15. In what way have I blamed this FO for the errors of the prior one? When have I even hinted at that? The inheritance of Drob and other players ill suited to their system? This regimen would never had drafted Drob, but when they took over they tried to make it work because that was the talent they had to work with. It's very easy to say we should have replaced him yet he demands a high salary and may have been hard to trade away ( maybe they tried). They inherited alot of personnel that didn't fit their system and in 2 years they are very close to achieving their goals. I agree with thei
  16. No I'm not joking? Now you want Ngata too - how many picks do you think the Jets had that year? Your blaming this management on previos regimen's choices. Again you're Monday morning QBing to the nth degree - everybody's right after the fact. This management is doing a great job in getting the players they want. As far as Thomas goes forgive the error in rd - bottom line is that after all the dealing the Jets were able to land Harris (any complaints??) because they kept a 2nd rounder in the Thomas deal and in the end landed Harris and Thomas for essentially a late rd pick.
  17. This post exemplifies the guys point. You only cherry pick the negative and do not highlight the positives this management has done for this team and the Monday morning QBing is amazing I would say they were hardly massive blunders, but again that's opinion. You can choose to highlight the negative if you want (Hell if the Jets had the draft the Pats had last year then you have someting to complain about, but then again their genuises), but this management has done a tremendous job up to this point to get this team out of cap hell and yet on paper appear pretty damn prepared for n
  18. OLB Gholston, TE Keller tops among pro day performances so far By Todd McShay Scouts Inc. (Archive) Updated: March 11, 2008 Email Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston continued his assault on the pre-draft process during the Buckeyes' pro day workout Friday in Columbus, Ohio. The 6-foot-3, 266-pounder blazed a 40-yard dash time of 4.59 seconds and soared 42 inches in the vertical jump, both slightly better than his impressive numbers (4.67, 35.5) at last month's combine. Now that Gholston has twice verified in workouts the explosiveness scouts have seen on film for the past t
  19. OLB Gholston, TE Keller tops among pro day performances so far By Todd McShay Scouts Inc. (Archive) Updated: March 11, 2008 Email Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston continued his assault on the pre-draft process during the Buckeyes' pro day workout Friday in Columbus, Ohio. The 6-foot-3, 266-pounder blazed a 40-yard dash time of 4.59 seconds and soared 42 inches in the vertical jump, both slightly better than his impressive numbers (4.67, 35.5) at last month's combine. Now that Gholston has twice verified in workouts the explosiveness scouts have seen on film for the past t
  20. Finish the sentence - package him with one our extra 4th round picks with what exacly to move up where?? Keller is better than any wr that came after the #30 pick and there was a chance he would not be there at #36 - well worth a #113 pick.
  21. Pats draft prowess has been overrated. Last year's Pats draft was downright embarrassing. What they are very good at is free agent signings including middle of the road talent that they fit into their system.
  22. Two main mistakes by the NFL: 1. The destruction of the evidence. It creates an IMPRESSION of covering up sensitive and serious violations. 2. Goodell stated it was the destruction tapes dating back to 2006. What about before? It gives the impression that the NFL was not very thorough in their investigation and did not want to dig too deep in order to open another can of worms (i.e., questioning the integrity of the Pats during their superbowl runs). Also, any previous evidence of tampering via video if it did exist has now been destroyed by the Pats. In addition, they didn't qu
  23. Seymour had 23 solo tackles and he was a FULL time player compared to Kimo.
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