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  1. This post exemplifies the guys point. You only cherry pick the negative and do not highlight the positives this management has done for this team and the Monday morning QBing is amazing

    :rl:

    So because I chose to do something else with my life other than go into NFL management, I have a 70 IQ and secretly am desirous that the Jets fail to show how I'm right and they're wrong? Yeah, you can read me (and everyone else here) like a book.

    Clearly, dissenting opinion is something that is too much for you. I wish you the best of luck in real life where only stupid people could possibly imagine a situation where management is fallible or capable of errors in judgments or actions.

    I like this FO. I think they're a capable group of guys with a good balance of brains & balls. I also think they're human & capable of mistakes - even massive ones - in the things they do:

    Cutler/McNeill would have been better than Ferguson/Clemens.

    So let me get this straight - you were clamoring for the Jets to pick Cutler at #4 and Winston in the 2nd round before the draft. Forget the fact that that 2 separate teams picked Winston and Cutler. I still say that Clemens and Fergie were a good combo.

    The Kendall situation, just last year, was an embarrassing blunder.

    Both parties have alot to blame. If Kendall stayed the Jets would have been 5 - 11 last year.

    Brad Smith over Gabe Watson when we had no NT.

    Eric Smith also over Gabe Watson, with a day one pick.

    Yeah the Jets GMs and every other team let this guy slip down to the 4th round! Watch out for that powerhouse Cardinal team. Eric Smith and Brad Smith were good choices at that level

    Anthony Schlegel at the top of round 3.

    Can't argue with that one, but c'est la vie - it was otherwise a pretty good draft for them

    Jason Pociask in round 5 (was expected to go undrafted).

    Now who exactly did you want at that selection? Get back when you review the 2006 draft and find someone who succeeded as a late pick.

    Thomas Jones for a high 3rd round pick and $20M.[/i

    Please stop this nonsense. They did not give up a high 3rd round pick for Thomas. They exchanged third round picks for him and because they were able to keep that 3rd round pick they were able to use it as ammo to get Revis I believe. These guys are way ahead of the curve. Thomas was a very good pick up.

    There's more that I'm probably forgetting, but get over yourself (or your clearly-biased "close ties"). This FO has made a number of massive blunders in only 2 seasons, and are coming off a pathetic 4-12 showing.

    I still like them and still support them. But I don't accept that everything they do as the right thing until I see us in a superbowl. And that's because I'm not an idiot with a 70 IQ.

    I would say they were hardly massive blunders, but again that's opinion. You can choose to highlight the negative if you want (Hell if the Jets had the draft the Pats had last year then you have someting to complain about, but then again their genuises), but this management has done a tremendous job up to this point to get this team out of cap hell and yet on paper appear pretty damn prepared for next year. And they did this in 2 years

  2. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't EVERY WR come after #30? You could be right but I'm having a tough time believing that a guy who wasn't even close to being the consensus #1 TE is somehow better than every single WR

    OLB Gholston, TE Keller tops among pro day performances so far

    By Todd McShay

    Scouts Inc.

    (Archive)

    Updated: March 11, 2008

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    Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston continued his assault on the pre-draft process during the Buckeyes' pro day workout Friday in Columbus, Ohio. The 6-foot-3, 266-pounder blazed a 40-yard dash time of 4.59 seconds and soared 42 inches in the vertical jump, both slightly better than his impressive numbers (4.67, 35.5) at last month's combine. Now that Gholston has twice verified in workouts the explosiveness scouts have seen on film for the past two seasons -- during which he had 22.5 sacks -- there should be no question about his standing as a top-10 prospect in this year's draft class. With the Jets, Patriots and Ravens -- all of whom employ 3-4 defensive schemes -- selecting sixth, seventh and eighth, respectively, it's hard to imagine Gholston still being available when the Bengals select at No. 9.

    Like Gholston, Purdue TE Dustin Keller used a recent pro day to improve on sensational combine results. His 41-inch vertical leap, three inches better than his showing in Indianapolis, stood out most and showed Keller's lower body explosiveness. While he never will be a good in-line blocker, Keller displays the speed, hands, athleticism and leaping ability of a true difference-maker in the NFL passing game. Creative offensive teams such as the Colts, Saints, Broncos, Eagles, Seahawks, Buccaneers and Rams should value Keller as a late-first-round prospect. In fact, don't be surprised if a team trades back into Round 1 to snatch him. There simply are not enough talented tight ends in this year's draft class for a team in need to be complacent.

    Many consider him the #1 TE. What makes him unique is his ability to play the slot as a WR and TE. He will be a nightmare matchup. A very impressive move by the Jets.

  3. Thats my beef and he would have been on the board when we picked in Rd.2

    OLB Gholston, TE Keller tops among pro day performances so far

    By Todd McShay

    Scouts Inc.

    (Archive)

    Updated: March 11, 2008

    Email

    Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston continued his assault on the pre-draft process during the Buckeyes' pro day workout Friday in Columbus, Ohio. The 6-foot-3, 266-pounder blazed a 40-yard dash time of 4.59 seconds and soared 42 inches in the vertical jump, both slightly better than his impressive numbers (4.67, 35.5) at last month's combine. Now that Gholston has twice verified in workouts the explosiveness scouts have seen on film for the past two seasons -- during which he had 22.5 sacks -- there should be no question about his standing as a top-10 prospect in this year's draft class. With the Jets, Patriots and Ravens -- all of whom employ 3-4 defensive schemes -- selecting sixth, seventh and eighth, respectively, it's hard to imagine Gholston still being available when the Bengals select at No. 9.

    Like Gholston, Purdue TE Dustin Keller used a recent pro day to improve on sensational combine results. His 41-inch vertical leap, three inches better than his showing in Indianapolis, stood out most and showed Keller's lower body explosiveness. While he never will be a good in-line blocker, Keller displays the speed, hands, athleticism and leaping ability of a true difference-maker in the NFL passing game. Creative offensive teams such as the Colts, Saints, Broncos, Eagles, Seahawks, Buccaneers and Rams should value Keller as a late-first-round prospect. In fact, don't be surprised if a team trades back into Round 1 to snatch him. There simply are not enough talented tight ends in this year's draft class for a team in need to be complacent.

    Unlikely he would be there. This guy is versatile - can play the slot WR position and TE - he 's a nightmare matchup.

  4. I'd love it, we could package up one of our extra 4th round picks.... oh wait, we traded used it trading up for a te that we could have waited for. well gee that won't work.

    Finish the sentence - package him with one our extra 4th round picks with what exacly to move up where?? Keller is better than any wr that came after the #30 pick and there was a chance he would not be there at #36 - well worth a #113 pick.

  5. The Pats take linemen with their 1st and 2nd round picks. Those guys have panned out pretty well.

    Where did I get "erect" over TE's?

    The Pats have a 91-37 regular season record since 2000. They have been to 5 AFC Championship games & 4 Super Bowls in that time.

    I guess the Pats can't draft!

    Pats draft prowess has been overrated. Last year's Pats draft was downright embarrassing. What they are very good at is free agent signings including middle of the road talent that they fit into their system.

  6. Two main mistakes by the NFL:

    1. The destruction of the evidence. It creates an IMPRESSION of covering up sensitive and serious violations.

    2. Goodell stated it was the destruction tapes dating back to 2006. What about before? It gives the impression that the NFL was not very thorough in their investigation and did not want to dig too deep in order to open another can of worms (i.e., questioning the integrity of the Pats during their superbowl runs). Also, any previous evidence of tampering via video if it did exist has now been destroyed by the Pats. In addition, they didn't question or investigate the videographers of the PATs - very strange.

    The fine and loss of draft pick was an attempt by the NFL to send a message and appear tough, but the reality was they did a very poor and not very thorough investigation of the Pats' unethical practices.

  7. Special Teams? They botched 1 snap on a FG attempt. You really want to call the Kassell incident a ****up and proclaim those 2 as them screwing up all night? Kasselll was making his black, the punter hit a crappy kick. **** like that tends to happen now and again. Hey, you were the one that defended Chad's fumble when he was sacked last week(which I agreed with you) and now you are going to hold Kassell being blocked into a horrible punt that traveled 20 yards? Talk about a double standard. Me not holding that against Kassell reduces my credibility!!?? You've seriously got to be kidding me. Oh BTW, that same special teams unit basuically rendered Welker, a very dangerous return man, useless. They also downed a punt on the 1 yard line on a hell of a play. They had a nice return by Leon, and to make up for the botched snap Grahamwas booming punts and getting us out of bad situations where we should have beeen leaving MIA with good field position. Yeah, but I have no credibility :yawn: I'm beginning to think you guys are so hard up to root for Pennington that you don't bother watching anything else except for things that could lead to an alternate excuse when Chad plays like crap.

    Horrible / crap game??

    Miami 21 NE (Brady) 0 - now that was a crap game.

    Pennington is and will always be a finesse QB who analyzes defenses and sees the field very well. That is his strength. All I see is a guy who came back from 2 shoulder surgeries and who does not have a dominating run game bringing a team to the brink of the playoffs who some listed as the worst in the NFL preseason.

  8. Just caught wind of this ... :sad:

    Gil Brandt on Sirius actually said that the Jets Were on the phone with Gocong when the eagles picked him. They were going to take him a few picks later and got burned on the trade.

    The story also went that Gocong was sure the Jets were going to pick him at #71 by a previous contact. Explain this to me - why would a GM notify a player 5 picks in advance that they were going to take him? This gives almost 30 minutes for other teams to snoop around and trade ahead of the Jets. Something doesn't sound right here.

  9. Maybe the Jets played the Eagles. It's no secret that teams are calling players that they say they are going to draft. I think that happened to one of the Jets who was picked up by the Jets in FA. I believe he was called by Tennesse, but never got picked.

    A good example was the supposed story of Matt Light on the phone with the Jets , followed immediately by BB who asked who he talked to and he told them the Jets just called. BB immediately traded up to get Light just before the Jets pick and the Jets picked Jordan.

    This calling of players before they're picked could be part of the poker game of misinformation. Suppose the Jets truly wanted to trade down to get an extra pick they lost in a previous trade - why not lay down a little misinformation by making a few phone calls to discuss possibly picking a player or find out who has been talking with him. Just a thought. Personally, if i really wanted a player I wouldn't call anybody.

  10. What I don't understand is why teams with the #1 pick hold out for exhorbitant trade value. IF you know that Bush is not going to be your pick and you know you can get Ferg, Williams,Hawk or whoever why not force a trade with another team by asking for LESS than the perceived trade value. For example, assuming the Jets want to trade up from #4 why not do it for their #4 and #29. It's a trade value bargain for the Jets, but the Texans still would get Williams or Ferg and still have an extra #29 pick. They would also pay less for their player. Baffling.

  11. My only mistake Texas made in my opinion is why didn't they trade out of the #1 pick if they are not going to draft RB. It's possible that they did try to trade out, but I would have gotten out of that #1 spot even if it meant losing a little value or trading for future picks. They are overpaying Williams and could have set themselves up with a little depth for the future.

  12. He was thrown from the car (meaning he wasn't wearing a seat belt)

    He was not admitted overnight to the hospital.

    He might miss the beginning of training camp?

    Something does not add up here. What exactly is his injury?

    Given the fact that he wasn't held overnight one could rule out a head, neck injury, or serious concussion. Most probably he landed on his shoulder so things like a clavicle fx, AC joint subluxation/dislocation, rotator cuff tear, or a 'stinger' are high on the list. If he's lucky maybe he just was roughed up a bit.

  13. Rotation and flexibility are the key. Robertson is strong and quick enough to play DE on occasion. Also - if they go into a 4-3 alignment with Ellis-Robertson- Ngata- Thomas and the offensive scheme screams for a 3-4 as so adeptly called by Vilma, they could then switch Thomas out to OLB with Robertson at DE................. Or they could call a time out.

  14. To me the Jets draft mentality will be very similar to what the Patriots do. They will not become enamored with one player, like Bradway did with Robertson, and give up valuable picks in the early rounds. The Pats I believe traded down once in the late 1st round, however, they have an amazing capacity to collect future #3, #4 picks themselves by trading down. The Jets have too many needs to become infatuated by a star. I also feel they have a relatively low premium on players like Williams aka Abraham. Shore up the middle and you can send a variety of blitz packages - the keys are not necessarily the athleticsm of the blitzer to make it work, but rather the mismatches that are created.

  15. Don't be surprised if Mangini grabs Ngata at #4.

    That would solidify the 3-4 for many years to come.

    I've been saying this for some time now. If the Jets get Ngata or Bunkley they would have an unbelivable front 7. There is no doubt in my mind they are eyeing one of these two. Ideally, they would like to trade down to the #7 or #9 spot and pick up an extra pick if possible. If not, I agree they will not be afraid to pull the pin at #4.

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