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Brett should take a 17 week break from talking to the media about any subject. That said, why would Jets fans be angry at him for bashing the Mangini management style. Mangini's ego is equal to Favre's. At least Favre has a hall of fame career to back it up. Mangini consistently made poor player and game decisions in New York. I dont have any doubt that he knew Favre was hurt and didnt list him as injured. Mangini thinks that the press, the fans, and even the NFL rule book are beneath his consideration.

NFL LBs cant really cover NFL WRs. At best they can cover the slowest tight ends. There are only a few good coverage linebackers and most are crappy against the run. Urlacher and Lewis were the exception, not the rule. All LBs really have to do is keep the backs, receivers and tight ends in front of them, close quickly, and prevent yards after the catch. Our guys should be fine.

In the end there may not be any measurable difference between them. But right now the difference is that Rex Ryan represents hope for the future and Herm represents the failures of the past. This is a Jets fan site. A new coach brings new hopes to Jets fans, you cant try to p*ss on that hope without expecting to catch some crap from the faithful. Is some of our optimism over the top? Yes. Is some of our belief in Ryan based on no real data? Yes. If you want a completely realistic appraisal of Ryan your in the wrong place. Which is probably because your an unemployed troll, who lives in his parent's basement, jerks it to clown porn, and is hoping your mom doesnt burn your pizza bagels tonight.

First, thanks for the full explanation of where your opinion differs from mine. Second, I see what you are saying and it makes sense. To me its a matter of security. If you sign a guy like Harris you know you have someone who can learn the system and step in and be productive. With a Trusnik or a Cummings you really dont know what you have. The team is going to carry about 8 linebackers: Scott Harris Thomas Pace Gholston Trusnik Are six for sures. That leaves room for Harris or someone like him. His biggest problem is the price tag. To me it seems like a low risk sub who should provide experienced depth.

Bart Scott and Napoleon Harris have exactly the same number of years in the NFL. Harris is older. Somehow you people are missing my point. So let me break it down for you. 1. I'm not saying that ILB is the teams biggest problem. 2. I'm not saying that Harris over Trusnik will send us to the Super Bowl. 3. I'm not saying that Trusnik might not be, at some point, a good reliable back up. What I am saying. 1. David Harris was injured twice last season. If he had been healthy Trusnik and Bowens wouldnt have taken a snap at ILB. The man has an injury history going back to college. 2. Right now our back up ILBs have exactly 0 starts and maybe 5 defensive tackles between the three of them. 3. Guys like Napoleon Harris who have started, have played in a 3-4 are out there. 4. Picking up a guy like Harris would strengthen the depth at that position and the team as a whole.

You're gonna ride me about Schlegel and then pump up this guy: http://www.nfl.com/players/kenwincummings/profile?id=CUM628434 The guy made no tackles in the regular season last year. Even Schlegel made 1 for the Jets:rolleyes:

I'm not just worried about ILB either. Primarily, I'm worried about QB. However, I dont think this is the guy you want to be first off the bench in case of injury: http://www.nfl.com/players/jasontrusnik/profile?id=TRU694033 Harris and others who are known commodities are out there looking for a spot. I dont think you can argue that he wouldnt be an upgrade over Trusnik. As for using Pace or Thomas like Bowens was used last year, the big difference is that Bowens wasnt a starter. So moving him to ILB didnt weaken the team at OLB. Plus, the Bowens experiement was iffy at best.

When was the last time Izzo played a meaningful down on defense? He is a ST guy. No problem with that, but he isnt a real D backup. Trusnik looked good for 2 consecutive plays and then made two stops when Miami was running out the clock in a loss that was a meaningless game for the Jets. Keep him in the rotation, get him some good reps in Preseason, but dont count on him in case of injury to Harris or Scott (God forbid).

It wasnt, but it can be if you really want it to be.

I do like Trusnik as a ST/ player in development, but not as the first guy off the bench if one of the other ILBs goes down. He is too raw and unproven. He should and will be one of the back up ILBs, but I think team depth would be greatly improved if a more proven back up were available. I dont think one game in Miami where he made One tackle on a pass 5yds down field, one good ST play, and two tackles against the run when the Dolphins were just running time off the clock makes him a reliable backup.

I'm a little concerned about our depth at ILB. Harris and Scott should be a great duo inside, but who exactly is behind them. Since going to the 3-4 the Jets have at least had a couple of veterans who could play ILB, but now we seem to be down to two or three guys with no real experience -- please spare me the Trusnik is a beast because of his play against Miami talk. Harris hasnt proved to be exceptionally durable after all. Signing a veteran with experience and some talent seems wise. Napoleon Harris is out there looking for a job. He would be a good experiences back up at ILB. He seems to be looking for a starting job, but given the right money he might take a back up role. I think the Jets should move on him before Pittsburgh, Green Bay, KC, etc snatch him up.

Mangini was in over his head while with the Jets. He started off saying all the right things -- build the team the right way, etc. But when he started losing, he panicked. He gave up all the slow progress for spend big win now and in the end, he lost the team because he had different sets of rules for different players. He should do better in Cleveland (not necessarily win loss wise), but you have to remember that it takes time to go from waterboy to head coach. Woody, in a desire to glom on to New England success, just hired him before he was really ready to do the job.

The injury history is one of the problems with Harris. For what ever reasons some guys just seem to get injured more than others. I fear that Harris may be one of those guys. I'll admit to being surprised at how well Harris played his rookie year (I doubted he could be that effective in his first season), but I remember around draft time that Harris' college injury were a source of concern. I hope he stays healthy and that he and Scott are a force in the middle for the Jets for years to come, but I'm worried. Scott and Cody Spencer (or whoever) are a whole lot less intimidating than Scott and Harris.

Kiaho (sp?) stinks. Like most cover 2 LBs he cant play the run (look at the Colts rankings against the run almost any year). He's too small for the 3-4 ILB or OLB spots. He's a guy that has to play in a certain system to appear successful and that system isnt ours. He's not tough, he's not intimidating, I cant see Ryan having any interest in him.

Westhoff's influence over Mangini was far greater than was warranted. Special Teams are important, but not more important than the Offense or Defense. He's a great ST coach with great knowledge of the game, but the truth is he was too much for Mangini to handle and had too much influence over personell decisions. Ryan appears to be stronger and wont be pushed around by a mean old bastard just because he yells and screams.