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  1. 33 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

    For perspective: Darnold wasn't my #1 QB in that draft, I hated the Sanchez & Geno picks, Hack was always an afterthought, and the only QB I've ever really liked in a Jets uniform was the first 11 games of the Favre year.

    Then I fell for Sam like I've never fell for a Jets QB before. Like everyone else, I was pumped for this game. This was the game Darnold was going to show off.

    As I'm watching the game last night, two things become abundantly clear:

         (1) I should have stuck to my guns regarding Gase. I hated the hire when it happened, but by the end of preseason I had done a full 180 and actually started to like him. However, last night was the final nail in the coffin. No more "3rd string QB" excuses. The guy is a continuation of everything he's ever been outside of the Peyton years: a complete joke.

         (2) Sam will never be what I had convinced myself he'd become: a FQB who would play January and February games for the Jets for the next decade+. There was no way that any FQB ever had a game like Sam did last night.

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    Today I started thinking about that second point a bit more, and I decided to do just a little bit of research. What I found is pretty interesting:

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    No, I'm not saying that Sam will ever live up to the careers that the above players have enjoyed, nor am I saying that last night was ok because, "well it happens." All I'm saying is that I was surprised by the results, and if nothing else, at least I feel a bit better knowing that even some of the top QBs in the league have had clunkers like Sam either early in their career or while they were in their prime.

    For the purposes of this thread, I've left the names off. Feel free to comment on which QB belongs to each stat line.

     

    Making any definitive conclusion based on 1 game is silly. All QB's have terrible games.  Same goes in reverse, nobody should really be convinced that Sam is a surefire elite QB either.

    The kids been up and down which was what we all should've been expecting. He's got loads of talent that shows up on the field often,  but hes not very good at the more mundane aspects of the job that are more important for consistant high level play 

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  2. 1 hour ago, Samtorobby47 said:

    The thing with yesterday was that there was pressure with no plan on how to handle it. It was a free blitzer in your face while Gase is running normal long routes. 

     

    Running normal long routes? Thats just not accurate, here is the fumble, both guys in the slot were headed to the flat and Crowder I think was open immediately, Darnold isn't even looking to throw in the second pic,

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  3. 1 minute ago, section314 said:

    Wanna bet?

    I'll take that action.

    People don't realize how much of a factor opponent is, there's a big difference between teams like the Pats and teams like Miami. Conservative coaches can do well because you can beat a lot of bad teams if you play it close to the vest and don't beat yourself. Pennington and Herm made the playoffs a few times with a mantra of any drive that ends in a kick is a good one. It's why I really only look at opponent adjusted stats.

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  4. 9 minutes ago, C Mart said:

     

     

    Generational?  The Jets just didn't deal with it well. How much of that is GAse and how much Darnold hard to say but definitly some of both. The second play shows Crowder I think clearly open in the flat, there were options, even considering the dumpster fire that was the protection

     

     


  5. 3 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

    That can't be right, can it?  I guess the Pats just don't give a crap, and figure they'll have no need for a second, but that seems absolutely ridiculous.  I would be furious if the Jets gave up anywhere close to that for a guy like Sanu.  A 30-year-old career mediocre WR.

    Our second rounder is a late first, theirs is an early third. Big difference and the Pat's need help on offense 

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  6. 1 hour ago, C Mart said:

    It’ll be interesting to see how Lamar does against Belichick and this D. 

    They have faced an offense in the top 2/3s of the league yet. I'm curious yo see how they do against some good offenses but it does look like the first real good defense they've had in over a decade 


  7. 52 minutes ago, nico002 said:

    What’s the flaw? Not being about to stiff arm a free rusher with one arm and pass with the other? Bellichick exposed our OL, WR, and coaches problems.

    Throwing off back foot, throwing ball up for grabs when pressued, poor accuracy (high all night), clearly got rattled and never recovered, poor pocket presence, poor blitz recognition.. etc

    Much of this has showed up in other games too.

    Last night didnt change my opinion of Darnold anymore than last week. Kid has a long way to go before becoming the type of QB who plays well consistently. Hes a puncher, not a boxer 

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  8. 3 minutes ago, jetspenguin said:

    No ...Palmer was good. He wasnt "great" until he hooked up with Bruce Arians in AZ....and even if I gave you that one, it's still .........just.......one..........guy.

    Incorrect. His second year as a starter he completed 68% of his passes (in 2005), made the playoffs, the pro bowl and was #2 in QB rating

     

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  9. 9 minutes ago, jetspenguin said:

    No, he is pretty much right. With the exception of Carlson Palmer most have been horrible and even Palmer didnt crank it up until later in his career. That may not have any relevance whatsoever with the success or failure of Sam but there is no string of USC QB's to hang the history on. If Sam does take us to the big be he will be the ONE success story at the position out of that school. 

    Palmer was great before he blew out his knee against Pitts

     

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  10. 2 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

    Crazy part is Sam always throws off his back foot and is usually accurate doing it.

    He does a lot and a lot of people marvel over it but it's bad for him to do it even when it works out. This is why we needed to surround him with talent on O because he has a ton of bad habits he's not going to learn to break with a weak unit around him

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