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  1. 5 hours ago, JetPotato said:

    Good post.

    I don't think the comparisons to other bands holds though. I think that many fans, and the band themselves, consider Radiohead to have two distinct eras. In those 90's years for Pablo Honey and The Bends, they were a very good rock band. Ok Computer though, changed their course. They became a new band, and rock was no longer a limiting genre they could hold themselves into. They became something else that literally no other band is, more similar to a Pink Floyd or early Genesis than another grunge band. I certainly don't dismiss The Bends, but it's more nostalgia that set the base for a huge catalog of other incredible music that really hits home with many like myself really, really hard, while thoroughly confusing others that aren't fans of the band. They're just one of those bands who either you think are the greatest thing ever or you just can't listen at all.

    OK, respectfully agree to disagree on a couple of things but I understand where you are coming from. I think if you love everything from OK Computer on then you’d be less bothered if the gig didn’t include any of the previous era, for me it was a huge part of the experience. There’s no doubt that OK changed their course and personally I think you can love both before & after. 

  2. 13 hours ago, JetPotato said:

    Seen Radiohead too many times to count, and it's always among the greatest experiences of my life. This post was shocking to me... until I got to the end. I think you just have different expectations than a majority of RH fans. I would never expect them to play Street Spirit, Creep or FPT. Sometimes they throw one of those into a set to change things up a little, but honestly, their fans are there for the OK Computer and later stuff, which I guess you're not a fan of? For me, it's In Rainbows, Kid A, Amnesiac... etc. Epic shows.

    I’m a fan of all of their stuff but what got me hooked in the beginning was The Bends, personally it’s one of my top 5 albums of all time with OK Computer only just behind. I don’t know how can you dismiss The Bends when talking Radiohead? I’m amazed that anyone could consider a Radiohead gig without Street Spirit as anything other than incomplete, no matter how many other great tracks they have.

    I’m interested that you would consider the ‘majority’ of Radiohead fans are more interested in hearing the latter albums you mentioned. That may be true but I have a hard time believing that there isn’t a significant core of Radiohead fans that are there because of The Bends (and to a lesser extent, Pablo Honey) and everything that came from them, including but not exclusively, OK Computer…..maybe I’m just old!

    If the ‘majority’ of Radiohead fans are only interested in hearing Kid A or Amnesiac then no question, that’s a group of people I have no interest in hanging out with and I made the right call not going back! 😊 great albums though they are, the story of Radiohead for me, and the full experience live, has to be abut those early albums too.

    On the night in question, off the top of my head the only tracks from OK were ‘Airbag’ & ‘The Tourist’ …that was it……no KP, no Paranoid Android, and not surprisingly, no surprises …...and Planet Telex was the only offering from The Bends…..sorry but that’s not not good enough for me. I felt cheated.

    Can you imagine Foo Fighters not playing ‘Times Like These’ or anything from ‘The Colour and the Shape’ ? Nothing from ‘Blood Sugar Sex Magik’ at a Chillies gig? Springsteen not bothering with ‘Born to Run’ or ‘Born in the USA’.?… Fleetwood Mac without ‘Go your own Way’ ? …..I’ve seen U2 half a dozen times and despite an immense back catalog they manage to pretty much get everything in every gig. 

    as I mentioned in my earlier post they were in dispute with the record label at the time so were publicly and pointedly refusing to play certain tracks which just felt a bit like taking it out on the wrong people. Musically they were excellent and since then they’ve come down off the high horse and their live performances and set lists are much more in line with what I’d expect. That doesn’t take away from the disappointment of feeling like I didn’t get the full experience and for that reason they remain my most disappointing live experience 

    It’s all personal taste of course

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  3. Radiohead(yes Radiohead) were by far my biggest disappointment live….just so far up their own @rses and refused to play most of their greatest tracks because of a dispute with the record label….that’s ok guys but when the fans have paid to hear Street Spirit, Creep, FPT, etc etc then just get over yourselves

    Bjork was also terrible live….just a wild and incoherent ramble of squeaks and noises, had just seen Muse blow the doors off it mind you so nothing is going to sound good after that

  4. Never thought I’d find a World Snooker Championships thread in a Jets forum, been watching since I was about 5 years old(I think that was the first ever year at The Crucible) I was a huge Kirk Stevens fan as a kid, got a signed photo of him and everything…loved that guy, such a cool dude with the all white suit, no tie and the mahooosive coke habit!!…being Scottish, Stephen Hendry was a god throughout the 1990’s and we’ve still got top guys like John Higgins and Stephen Maguire.
    As great as Ronnie is he’s had to play for far longer to get to Hendry’s records. If you are interested there’s an awesome 3 part documentary series on BBC iPlayer called ‘Gods of Snooker’ that goes back to those early days of Hurricane Higgins, Big Bill Werbeniuk, the Black Ball final of 1985 and right through to the present day….check it out if you are a snooker fan, you’ll enjoy it.

  5. Apologies if already posted….nice read 


    The New York Jets know what they're doing

    GM Joe Douglas and head coach Robert Saleh needed to nail this 2022 NFL Draft. This weekend could not be going any better.

    Tyler Dunne

    58 min ago


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    With all due respect to Wayne Newton shouting “Mississippi!” there are few things better on draft weekend than the fist bumps. When that camera peers inside a draft room, we get to see GMs and coaches acting very human. It can be fun. It can be awkward. Howie Roseman and Tom Donahoe supplied a must-see exchange last year. Unfortunately, neither network televising this weekend’s festivities are giving viewers many peeks behind the curtain.

    On Night 1, however, there was one awesome moment. 

    From Pick No. 15 to Pick No. 26 — before every single selection — New York Jets general manager Joe Douglas tried to trade up for Florida State edge rusher Jermaine Johnson. Finally, he found a trade partner and the Jets captured his elation. “We’re on the f-----g clock,” Douglas says after setting the phone down. When head coach Robert Saleh wraps him in a hug, he gets louder. “We’re on the f-----g clock!”

    It wasn’t forced, either. This felt very real because both had every reason to be ecstatic.

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    No team faced more pressure than the Jets this weekend. With the Buffalo Bills still quarterbacked by a MVP candidate, the Miami Dolphins adding a dream team ensemble of talent (headed by Tyreek Hill) and the New England Patriots still coached by the greatest coach ever, the Jets needed to take full advantage of their hefty draft ammo. Two days in, this is the franchise’s best haul since 2000 when they nabbed four difference-makers in the first round, DE Shaun Ellis, DE John Abraham, QB Chad Pennington and TE Anthony Becht. It’s no exaggeration to suggest that the Jets landed the best cornerback (Ahmad “Sauce” Gardner), the best wide receiver (Garrett Wilson), the best running back (Breece Hall) and, in Johnson, one of the best pure pass rushers.

    For a team that already made its big bet at quarterback, a meat-and-potatoes draft came at a perfect time. This all comes with a massive caveat, of course. Nothing matters if Zach Wilson doesn’t pan out. But the draft broke beautifully for a team in need. Douglas inherited a colossal mess of a franchise in 2019, quietly stocked the roster with actual talent and — if the Jets do turn this thing around for good — we’ll probably look back at the 2022 draft as what lit the match.

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    There’s few cliches in sports worse than a team telling us they took the best player on their board but, pick to pick, value met need for Douglas. An offensive tackle wasn’t going to change much in the AFC East for the Jets, but a true No. 1 corner? This was absolutely needed with Stefon Diggs, Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle play-to-play threats to detonate. Gardner is described as a faster and more athletic Richard Sherman at 6 foot 2 ½ with 4.46 speed and 33 ½-inch arms. His versatility to play press and off coverage is rare and Saleh nailed it during his press conference on Thursday night in explaining the value of Gardner. This league is all about getting a stop on third and 4 when everyone knows you’re locked up in man-to-man coverage. Sometimes, this sport isn’t that complicated: Can your premier corner blanket their premier wide receiver? With the game on the line? 

    Take JC Jackson, the All Pro who signed with the Los Angeles Chargers in the spring. He takes the ball away at an absurd clip. The last two seasons, Jackson has 17 interceptions with 37 passes defensed, but when it came to what stands in the Patriots’ way right in the division, he repeatedly was burnt by Diggs. 

    There will be growing pains. But the fact that Gardner at least has a shot to compete in such a matchup — because of his size-speed combo — makes him worthy of the No. 4 overall pick.

    Since Darrelle Revis’ peak 10 years ago, the Jets haven’t boasted a true No. 1 cornerback.

    “Sauce can do everything,” Saleh said. “He can play zone. He can play man. He can win in crunch time. He can run with the fastest guys. He can defend the biggest guys. He’s elite.”

    Saleh didn’t hide from a question about the division, too. As a defensive coach who’s thinking about how to stop all of these weapons in the AFC East daily, he knows his scheme will only go so far. In DBs like Michael Carter II, DJ Reed, Jordan Whitehead, LaMarcus Joyner and Ashtyn Davis, the Jets are compiling a group of tough, pound-for-pound players.

    Of course, the Jets needed to help their quarterback.

    Hill spurned them for Miami and the Jets were unable to swing a deal for unhappy 49ers wide receiver/running back/beer vendor/groundskeeper Deebo Samuel, but this is suddenly a promising crew: Garrett Wilson, Elijah Moore, Braxton Berrios and the vet Corey Davis should be more than enough for their 22-year-old quarterback. 

    Scouts pegged Wilson the best wideout of 2022. Said one: “He’s exactly what a lot of teams are looking for. He doesn’t have ideal size, but outside of size I don’t think you could find anything wrong with him.” He’s smallish but proved he can gain separation and make the contested catch deep — the Jets sorely needed a game-breaker like this:

    “He has the whole repertoire in terms of the route tree,” Saleh said. “You see him and he looks a little slight but he’s actually very strong. Plays the game very strong. He’s got great range. He’s got really good speed. He’s another guy who can win 1-on-1 which obviously, when you look at Buffalo, New England and Miami, they’re man-to-man coverage teams. Being able to add him to Corey, Braxton and Elijah Moore and the rest of our receiving corps and the tight ends… it’s a group that’s really ascending and a really young group that’s going to have a chance to grow together.”

    Zach Wilson had a strange, futile rookie season with 2,334 yards, nine touchdowns, 11 interceptions and a lowly 55.6 completion percentage through three wins and 10 losses. But the mess around him did not help. The Jets’ receiving corps was hit hard by injury and he didn’t have anyone striking any amount of fear deep. That changes with Garrett Wilson. Of his 12 touchdowns last season, six were on vertical routes. He averaged 15.1 yards per reception and there’s a reason he’s so good in traffic trying to catch the ball at his highest point. It’s natural. He was a star point guard in high school basketball and the AAU circuit who could play at the rim. He actually received D-I offers and has said basketball was his first love. 

    His father, Kenny Wilson, even played briefly for Denver Nuggets after scoring 1,573 career points at Davidson.

    Here’s Garrett Wilson’s high school basketball film for those interested. 

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    Samuel is a 1-of-1 talent and nobody was used like him in 2021 — perhaps ever. His third-down run at Lambeau Field in the 49ers’ divisional playoff win was as clutch as it gets in January. While reporting on “Blood and Guts” (preorder today if you’d like!), I can’t tell you how many times some of the best tight ends and tight end coaches ever brought up Samuel’s name unsolicited as a positionless weapon changing the sport. You want him on your roster. Then again, Samuel would’ve also cost the Jets at least $20 million per year and we’ve seen contracts like this totally blow up in the Jets’ faces year-in and year-out for whatever reason. 

    Whoever’s been in charge of the football operation too often chases the shiny bright objects. Overall, Douglas’ discipline is a breath of fresh air as he methodically rebuilds the team.

    Of course, if we’re nitpicking, the Jets probably would’ve loved for Aidan Hutchinson to sneak down to four. Their pass rush was abysmal in 2021.

    Getting Carl Lawson back should help. After signing a three-year, $45 million deal last season, the former Bengal ruptured his Achilles’ tendon in August. Johnson certainly comes with red flags, but credit to Douglas for his resiliency calling teams for half the first round to finally move from No. 35 to No. 26. When our Bob McGinn asked 17 scouts who the best pure pass rusher was in the draft, three said Johnson. There was some scathing criticism but no questioning his pass-rush ability after 12 sacks at Florida State. Said one scout: “He can power off the edge. He’s got get-off and flattens down on the quarterback.” And another: “He’s got exceptional hands and hand usage at the point of attack. That’s what grabbed me the most about him. The sacks came off hustle.”

    If the Jets foster the right environment for Johnson, this could turn out to be the great steal of the draft.

    I think we can take the franchise at its word when they tell us they drafted three players in their top 8.

    They all play premium positions, too.

    “Big. Long. Explosive,” Saleh said of Johnson. “He has great athleticism, violence to his game. Very smart. He is probably the most pro ready out of all the pass rushers this year in terms of having a repertoire to his game. Really a perfect fit for what we do defensively with our Wide 9 system, putting him on an edge and getting him firing off the ball and attacking. He’ll really be a great complement to the group that we already have.”

    On Day 2, the Jets found a running back. Iowa State’s Breece Hall is as good as it gets this spring and should add a needed wrinkle to the passing game, too. The Jets tried moving back into the first round to grab Hall and still landed him on Day 2. Everything adds up from the speed (4.39) to the athleticism (40 inches) to the production. The Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year in 2020 and 2021 rushed for 3,044 yards and 41 touchdowns. Again, the Jets found a playmaker who’ll stretch the field. Even as a defensive-minded coach, Saleh likely knows shootouts are going to be inevitable in today’s NFL. You cannot stubbornly expect to win 17-14 games in 2022. Not with Josh Allen locked in long term with the Bills.

    Buffalo had a chance to take Hall itself in the first round, but opted for the dual-threat James Cook instead in the second. It’ll be quite interesting to track both of their young careers considering both will factor into their offenses immediately in a big way.

    “Part of the plan,” said Saleh, “was to add some guys who when they touch it, guys can take it 80.”

    How refreshing it must be for Jets fans to have such general competence at the top of the organization. It’s almost difficult to comprehend. 

    From the get-go, Douglas was a smart hire as someone who cut his teeth as a scout on Ozzie Newsome’s staff in Baltimore from 2000 to 2014. Newsome and the Ravens’ system is revered around the NFL as the gold standard. Many other front offices go sideways because you don’t really know who’s in charge and/or the person making that final call allows emotion enter the equation. As simple as it sounds, a steady presence at the top — think Ted Thompson in Green Bay — is all it takes to build a winner that lasts.

    Of course, these Jets are counting on this being their quarterback. A team can add all the talent it wants around a QB. Unless that’s your guy, it won’t matter. Douglas did everything in his power to set Zach Wilson up for success. 

    As outstanding as that the Jets’ draft was 22 years ago, that was also the draft that doomed the franchise for a generation. Ellis was solid. Abraham was one of the best pass rushers of the 2000s. Pennington was damn good, too. 

    But then at No. 199, a different quarterback was drafted by the Patriots: Tom Brady. 

    Once the high from this weekend wears off, Douglas and Saleh will be taking a deep exhale and the real work begins.



  6. 10 hours ago, Untouchable said:

    How about we quit while we’re ahead before Joe Douglas demands $30 million a year?

    Gardner, Wilson, Johnson, Hall and Ruckert?

    I couldn’t have even pulled this sh*t off in one of those silly ass mock simulators.

    Let’s quit while we’re ahead, mmkay?

    He should just sit there in his draft chair, when we are on the clock, and just let it tick down to zero…refusing to turn in a card …just sat with his arms folded looking straight into camera with Saleh standing off to the side and just over his shoulder …meanwhile there’s Woody, slouched in his chair, feet up on the table, down in the front of left of shot, flipping a big fat middle finger to camera and mouthing “come at me, bro”

  7. 9 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

    This is going to be a smash mouth power football team with a two headed RB tandem.  

    It's the perfect setup to take the pressure off Zach and allow him to develop without having to carry the team.


    Play action should be pretty fun!

    2nd and 5 is a huge difference  maker for a young QB(or any QB for that matter) We’ve been putting our young guys in a hole of 2nd and 9 or worse for far too long….establishing a dominant ground game and having a defense capable of getting the ball back are vastly underrated amongst the general fanbase and every bit as valuable as a great WR or blue chip LT…it’s smart team building 

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  8. 6 hours ago, Paradis said:

    Took 15 years and the longest last 12 months. 

    but my boy is coming home


    soooo, am I gonna be hella excited to watch the Jets offense this fall? …..😁

    congrats dude, glad you got one and thanks for all your great work over the year in bringing us these prospects …you are not the only one but great jo

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  9. We have it….in abundance!

    Watching the draft live up until pick 16 and then catching up today on all the interviews and aftermath I couldn’t help but be impressed by all 3 of our new guys. All 3 bring a little long needed swagger and pizzaz but still being respectful and articulate. Last year clean-cut Zach was all well and good and we might need a couple of old school ‘quiet types’ or ‘lunch pail guys’ today to balance things out but you need a little attitude in the mix and while it’s a fine line between that and tipping over into ‘character concerns’ I feel good about all 3 of these guys.

    Sauce is just a character, he’s got superstar written all over him and maybe he’ll need some careful managing but he just has that ‘it’ factor….there may be a little diva but he comes off as fun and humble with a youthful verve and genuine belief in himself that is confidence rather than arrogance.

    Wilson was hugely impressive, spoke well and comes off as a legitimate high character guy, but that suit!…oh my that suit was the sign that he has just the right amount of WR diva in him. I wasn’t totally convinced by him at 10 but I’m all in now, there’s no question he has some talent and the way the WR were going we did the right thing getting our guy there. I like how he and Olave are clearly good friends too and bounced off each other, shows both are good kids and good teammates

    As for JJ, I’d heard there were potential character issues but he came across really well on-stage and afterwards when talking to the Jets reporter and seemed genuinely thrilled to be a Jet. I know this is all great for now and it’s all about when the pads go on but we’ve added a bit of edge (and I don’t mean edge the position) to our roster….these guys all have something about them. It’s exciting as hell

    as a side note there’s just something about Thibodeaux that comes over as way too cocky, way too knowing…maybe he’ll be a superstar, maybe he’ll be like Odell but you can see where the scouts had their doubts about him….on the other hand , even though he’s gone to Detroit I really hope Hutchinson becomes a star, what an awesome human being he comes across as, the suit  with his lifetimes manifestations sewn into the lining by his mother is about as millennial/2022 as it gets but you can’t help but love the guy….I hope he goes on to greatness, just not when he plays against us 

  10. 1 minute ago, Lith said:

    We had some discussion on the zoom call about this last night.  Potentially moving Hall to FS.  And with the inevitiable injuries that occur during a season, I am not worried about having a crowded CB room.  Having depth is a problem we have not often had to deal with.

    Indeed, Echols is unlucky if he’s odd man out. He played really well as a rookie and has earned more playing time not less. Perhaps we look to get something back for one of our younger guys who looked good last year? I personally wouldn’t want to shift any of them for the reasons of depth you stated but it might be a consideration

  11. 3 hours ago, jamesr said:

    Well done on staying up that late ... I woke up about 3.30am and checked my phone to see the first two picks, felt very pleased but wondered how we were going to fill Edge. Woke up at 7am to see we had traded up and was genuinely surprised that we'd got JJ on top of Sauce & Wilson.

    Might stay up tonight to see who we pick in Round 2. 

    Hopefully you won’t have to wait long !

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  12. 3 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said:

    Quick thought: It’s awesome to watch JD in the draft room at work. I never see him so giddy, he’s in his element, having fun, kicking ass and taking names. 
    Him and Saleh are truly on the same page and are step by step with this thing. Ulbrich was JACKED when Sauce happened. He’s prob the happiest guy tonight. 
    They tried to trade back up again at the end of the first but didn’t happen. 
    Also the whole, Woody will have a role nonsense. Throw that out the window. It’s JDs show, Woody obviously just signs off on it all. Woody has no idea who half these guys are. 

    Wonder who they were after? Breece Hall or Devin Lloyd would feel like stealing at this point t

  13. 6 hours ago, Untouchable said:

    This is legitimate needle moving sh*t we’re witnessing 

    It’s not just the needles that are moving!!!😀……..went to bed at 3am (I’m in the UK) while they were at pick 16 …happy but a little deflated that we didn’t take JJ at 10 and concerned where we are going to get our edge rusher, then wake up to this news……amazing, after almost 40 years of following this team it finally feels like we can have nice things on draft day!!…..Pumped AF

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