[Baker traded to Carolina]

[Jets' secondary ranked Top 10 AFC]

1 hour ago, Drums said:

Ravens are that good huh? Week 1 is going to be interesting 

If we beat the Ravens, people on this website will be booking hotels in Gendale in February - just in case.

[Jets' secondary ranked Top 10 AFC]

39 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Bottom 33% of the conference, and bottom 16% in the NFL?

Seems about right, given last year, and the fact we haven't played any games yet.

I'm hoping they'll be better, much closer to league average (or 50% of teams better, 50% worse), which would be a nice year over year improvement, especially for a Defensive-Resume Head Coach.

But yeah, it's hard to beef about this ranking today, in June.

This will be a contant refrain from me this year, "Get to Average".

If we're ranked ~15th or 16th in every stat and production metric, that would be a massive win for us.

In fairness, any ranking is pure fantasy.

3 of 4 starters are new.  We brought in a starting corner, starting safety, and drafted a CB at #4 who's upside is best in the league.

I don't care where they rank.  But, I do expect that secondary should be a point of strength on this team next year, with all the obvious growing pains allowances made.

LB is the only place we won't look meaningfully different on defense next year.

[From WSJ...NfL to push for a minimum 1 year ban for Watson]

7 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

No. The typical mechanism is cutting the player and not paying the unguaranteed portion, but the Browns guaranteed it all. And they expressly waived their right to void the deal and recover the signing bonus if he's suspended based on activity that was disclosed to them before signing him.

Ok - So, in the verbiage, "based on activity that was disclosed to them before signing," is there not room for them to say, "well, 6 other women came forward and that changed the calculus?"

[From WSJ...NfL to push for a minimum 1 year ban for Watson]

23 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

The obvious comparison here is Vick, but the difference with Vick was he plead guilty, did his time, accepted what he did and spent quite literally almost all of his free time drawing awareness after the fact and owning up to his mistakes. And the fact that the Eagles brought him back on a small deal when all the dust had settled. There's a PR side to this that takes such a heavy toll, and it's hard to imagine the Browns or Watson being able to overcome the time off in the same way not only due to his denial of everything, but really the lack of available options that Vick had regarding a post-suspension regaining of his image. What's he going to do? Go on a Don't Sexually Assault Massage Therapists campaign? What a mess.

"And remember kids, it's important to always keep your penis to yourself."

[From WSJ...NfL to push for a minimum 1 year ban for Watson]

On 6/26/2022 at 12:15 PM, Doggin94it said:

Yes. Also, if you look at how indefinite suspensions handed down by the league get handled, here's the list since 2007:

Vick (2007) - 2 years

Ray Rice (2014) - overturned on appeal

Adrian Peterson (2014) - 6 mos

Myles Garrett (2019) - 6 mos

Odell Thurman (2008) - never reinstated

Travis Henry (2008) - 4 years

Johnny Jolly (2010) - 3 years

Tanard Jackson (2010) - 1 year

Tanard Jackson (2012) - 2 years

Justin Blackmon (2013) - never reinstated

Fred Davis (2014) - 1 year

Tanard Jackson (yes, again, 2014) - never reinstated

Aldon Smith (2015) - 5 years

Trey Watts (2015) - never reinstated

LaRon Landry (2015) - never reinstated

Silas Redd (2016) - 8 months

Sammie Lee Hill (2016) - never reinstated

Rolando McClain (2016) - never reinstated

Martavis Bryant (2018) - never reinstated

Josh Gordon (2019) - 1 year, then another year after violating the terms of a conditional reinstatement

Most of those last a looong time, even discounting the "never reinstated" fringe guys who no team was interested enough in signing (so they never bothered applying for reinstatement). With 26 separate accusations, if the NFL investigation believes the accusations are real, I'd be surprised if he's back in less than a year and a half. 

 

He already got that signing bonus, yep. But his contract tolls. If the league really wants to screw with the Browns, keep Watson out for 4 years and let him come back in 2026 as a 31 year old who hasn't played in 4 years - and who the Browns will then owe 230M over the next 5 years

Is there some mechanism for the league nullifying a contract?  Seems like they'd have to get involved here if they were going to suspend him forever.  Can the Browns seek to recover the signing bonus?

[Jets' secondary ranked Top 10 AFC]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

What crown? 
 

This list is suggesting that the majority of teams in the AFC have a better secondary than the jets 

Marketing!  It sounds much better than, Jets are a bottom 6 secondary in the AFC.

[Jets Fandom Explained]

8 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I must sadly admit the Rivka reference went right over my head. Rivka?

The first name of the author of the article quoted and linked in the OP...

[Jets Fandom Explained]

1 hour ago, Warfish said:

I woulda hoped for a B+, but I'll take it!

Hmmm... Never pictured you as a Rivka.

[Jets Fandom Explained]

I give this psychology 102 midterm paper a B-.

[Meet Jeremy Ruckert and Tony Richardson!]

17 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Is...is he eating his plate of food while it's still stacked on the other clean plates? That's a thing?

The stack of plates is what got you?  Not that the 16 year NFL veteran is spending Memorial Day in Brooklyn (or is it Staten Island) with two brothers he met on Twitter?

[Arch Manning]

10 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

If Knicks fans hated Melo and Marbury just wait until Mr. Flat Earther takes the court.

Again, casual fan, but it's amazing that the strategy seems to be, don't draft anyone, and overpay someone you'll be looking to unload for picks in 2 years.

[Arch Manning]

2 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said:

The parallels to the Jets are uncanny

It’s not even close.  Even if the Jets suck - at least there is some evidence to support the idea that they are trying to get better.

[Arch Manning]

8 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Large Arch sent me

Question from a casual fan.  Why do the Knicks still exist?

[Arch Manning]

16 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

Watch him end up being drafted by the Dolphins and becoming our Arch nemesis. 

[Realistic Zach Wilson Take - and How I'll be Evaluating Him Year Two]

13 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Anomalies raise flags no matter the direction. Fairly fundamental concept of numbers. Good is obviously preferable to bad but it's really no surprise that you look at the top rookie seasons ever and there are plenty of busts littered throughout. The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

We call this, the Timo Perez.

[Is anyone else talking themselves into the Jets being good this season after swearing to never do that again?]

15 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

They went after playmakers the last two years. When’s the last time that even happened? The culture of this organization became drafting almost nothing but interior defense and safeties for like a decade and watching the team became a test of one’s patience rather than being able to enjoy watching sports (wild concept, I know). I have no idea how many games they will win but at the very least I think the football will be bearable to watch, and with the Jets that’s really saying something. 

Completely agree.  The team has the potential to be fun to watch.  Crazy that that's a change that needed to and has happened.

[Rookie buying dinner is bull sh*t]

5 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

if someone told me I’d be making this much money and still be living hand to mouth, I would have slammed my dick in a car door at 18!” Haha 

This rings true.  The average household income in NY is like 105, and NJ 115, and I imagine with kids, it's extremely difficult to live at either of those numbers.

[Is anyone else talking themselves into the Jets being good this season after swearing to never do that again?]

On 6/18/2022 at 12:04 PM, maury77 said:

This is where I’m at as well. What concerns me about this team is momentum. The schedule before the bye is brutal. The most winnable games are on the road (Cleveland and Pitt). Cleveland even without Watson has a good running game and defense while the Jets (in their history) have only have 1 victory in Pitt. I fear that a bad start to the season for a young team could cause them to spiral downward.

Maybe.  We did finish 6-2 after a disastrous start not that long ago.  One win can change momentum, if that's really a thing.  So, hopefully they just play well.  The pieces will fall into place.

[Rookie buying dinner is bull sh*t]

3 hours ago, The Crusher said:

As someone who raised 5 kids you get to the point that nothing is a lot of money because ain’t like you get to keep it anyways. 

Yeah, this.  Just two kids, but between a home reno project, summer camps, and upcoming vacations, it's all just, "well, throw it on the pile" at the moment.  And "the moment" is lasting a lot longer than I'd expected.  I'd dance a jig if any bill came back at only $1000.

[Rookie buying dinner is bull sh*t]

9 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Agree or not, 1k is alot of money. And 75k is a lot for dinner and f'd up to make some rookies pay

It's a lot of money to most people.  It's not a lot to many people.

That said, I do agree with you that the 75K dinner is ****ed up.  The NFL actively (and correctly) puts programs in place teaching these guys how to save and the importance of investing.  This is the exact opposite of that.  All hazing is bullsh*t.

[Rookie buying dinner is bull sh*t]

9 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

No no. Rich people don't spend money at all. That's why the market demographic for McLaren is middle school history teachers.

Indeed.  This opinion that $1,000 is a lot of money and rich people don't spend is largely from FinTwit personalities who've amassed a million dollar net worth over a decade by living off the grid, eating ramen, and recycling their bodily fluids.

[Rookie buying dinner is bull sh*t]

1 hour ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

It is. Rich people are the most tight with money. The ones who arnt are not rich for long ...bad decisions etc..

It's really not.  This is a caricature of wealthy people that people without money hold.  While there are certainly some wealthy people who are 'tight with money,' it's not actually true as a rule.  And it's certainly not true that they think 1K is a lot of money when they have close to 10K mortgages.

[Rookie buying dinner is bull sh*t]

23 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I don't believe that. Ask anyone that has money if 1000 is a lot. It is for everyone 

I really wish this were true.

[Flight 2022 airs tonight - All 5 episodes dropping]

6 hours ago, JiFapono said:

BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!
 

 

Don’t get me wrong.  Braxton Berrios is one of the best looking men in the NFL.  It’s just that Tyler Conklin is one of the best looking men on the planet.