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  1. 2 hours ago, Bugg said:

    The word "boring" jumps out. Worst thing any entertainment enterprise could be. 

    Moved from anger to bemused indifference, bordering on contempt. There's no way I am burning a fall afternoon to deal with either traffic or the PATH train disaster to be treated like a prison inmate at ridiculous costs to watch that in person. 

    A lot of people gave my post below a +1, but no one has responded to it.  Honest question, why would anyone go for any reason other than their personal traditions.  They are, in fact, uninteresting.  I'm happy to go on a roadtrip each year, because that's different and fun.  A Jets game, in and of itself, is almost never fun.

    16 hours ago, ZachEY said:

    Why would someone have wanted to go to today’s game?

    Serious question.

    Because it’s expensive and the team hasn’t been relevant in a decade and the weather was bad and they were starting Joe Flacco and the opponent is a historically and currently better non-rival team.

    So, besides, “I’m a season ticket holder and this is what I do,” what reason would anyone have for going?

    I watched the Italian Grand Prix, worked out, cleaned my car, watched the game on a 77 inch OLED, and then went out to dinner with the family.  Hard pressed to think anyone who sat in traffic, then the rain, then traffic and paid $400 or more for the privilege, had a better day.


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  2. 7 hours ago, Hael said:

    It's been a few years since i've been to a live game, but I definitely noticed a lack of Gen Z representation.  Apparently that's true league wide.

    Do they not like football anymore?

    I don't know about like, but it's not priced for Gen Z to afford it.  

    The average Gen Z worker in the country makes 32K right now.  In NY and NJ, it's higher but still under 40K.  The average 1br in NJ is $1100/month.  That roughly works out to rent = 1 full paycheck.  Two tickets, parking, and minimal concessions and you're looking at $300 unless you're in the upper bowl.

    How is that happening?

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  3. 7 minutes ago, Smashmouth said:

    So you saw the offseason ? Flacco was handed all the first team reps when Zach got hurt . He didn't earn the starting spot it was given to him, there was no competition. The result of this decision was evident Sunday and it was easy to predict.

    Its obvious to me this team does not want a QB controversy, if Mike White was to start and play well for a few games and Zach came back and continued to suck that's exactly what the Jets coaching staff would have had. The easy pussified way to handle this was to play Joe Flacco because in every scenario it would be no big deal to replace the 37 year old career mediocre QB with Zach Wilson even if Zach played bad upon return the narrative would be, well he's the future.  That's not the same scenario if MW played well because he's 27 that makes things a lot more complicated. 

    Like others, you can have the feeling maybe MW is not that good and he's just over blown but he did play well enough vs both Cincy and the Colts to at least be the back up and a reliable one at that but the Jets felt lil Zach needed a mentor even though he had a personal QB coach a team QB coach and an OC working with him at all times so why the Need for Joe Flacco ?

    I agree that the team doesn't want a QB controversy.  But, I also read every training camp tweet and watched the preseason, and White did nothing to force the team's hand.

    I don't like the way the QB position has been handled on this team, ever.  But, that doesn't suddenly make Mike White a guy that wasn't a flash in the pan.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    You’re assumption is ZW isn’t a well liked guy when every interpretation is that he is.  Or that teammates don’t believe in him when they seem to.

    I think this offseason, it seemed more like the newer guys definitely did, but there is no denying that last year, the team favored Mike White.  Also, players will go for the guy that puts them in the position to succeed.  Thus far, that has rarely been Zach Wilson.

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  5. 10 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

    No one is going anywhere because ZW is getting his job back.  
    The Fields fans won’t stop until ZW is a FQB or gone.  Nothing changes there.  

    So, you just go into the locker room and say that the well-liked guy who's playing well is out, and we're putting back in the guy who's been objectively terrible, and all the players are just like, "cool, cool"

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  6. 15 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

    Do they know that? Do they really? Five weeks ago, the head coach said this:

    I haven't watched the all-22, so maybe no one was getting open, but from my extremely amateur perspective, Flacco looked absolutely cooked today. Slow reads, slow processing, indecisive throws, no feel in the pocket. So either they're executing things in practice but not on game day, or the coach has an inexplicable hard-on for a washed-up veteran. Either way, it's an issue, and one that falls on Saleh.

    I don’t watch any of these things because I think they’re all bullsh*t.

    Ultimately, coach says positive things about one of his players.  Film at 11.

    I’d like them to have someone better than Flacco, but historically (well before Saleh/Douglas) we don’t bring in anyone who could usurp the boy king.  Backups are purely to serve the role of football dad.  I think that’s a Woody Johnson/marketing call.

  7. 31 minutes ago, jgb said:

    I'm asking sincerely. If Saleh isn't as bad as his record because the talent stinks, then JD must be bad, no?

    What if it’s somewhere in the middle.  Douglas has done some great things, he’s also had some unforgivable misses, he also took over a roster completely devoid of talent, he also had some unfortunate injuries, he also put his career on Zach Wilson.

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  8. 1 hour ago, Alka said:

    Continuing on my thoughts from before:

    Deciding on Zerlein over the guy who was 8 for 8 in field goal kicking last year.  Zerlien, by missing that first field goal, changed the momentum of the game and was significant.  The Jets were still in the game going into halftime, but like every losing game last year, the other team seems to be better prepared coming out in the 2nd half.  The Jets again and again and again are not prepared for the 2nd half. 

    Yes, if you want to blame the players, there is a lot of blame to go around.  The offensive line did not give Flacco time to throw the ball.  But you could use more screen passes, dump offs.  Would this have been enough to make the Jets winners this week?  No, if we're being honest, no.  But the Jets were in it in the first half, and the Jets continue to give it up in the second half.  That is coaching, plain and simple.  

    I look at the kicking issue as a GM issue and Douglas has absolutely failed in that regard - both PK and punter.  Complete disaster.

    I don’t think the 2nd half was preparation.  I think you can only hold a team to 3 points in the modern NFL for so long.  Games are cumulative.  The half isn’t a new game.  The defense wore down.  They weren’t able to stop the Ravens over and over again.  The best defense in the world is getting 1st downs on offense.  Jets failed there.

    This all ends with you saying that a different strategy wouldn’t have worked either, so what’s the point again?

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  9. 14 minutes ago, LockeJET said:

    Dolphins are legit and on paper have a much better team than the ravens right now. 


    13 minutes ago, LockeJET said:

    Yes! it’s not the loss, it’s how you lose and how pathetic certain phases look. 

    A team that won 4 games last year, lost their starting QB and two offensive tackles in preseason and then lost to a team that will compete for the playoffs, while putting together a not uninspiring defensive performance under the circumstances.

    That’s what happened.  Everyone needs to calm their histrionics about how this was some historically bad moment.

    The two biggest disappointments of the day were Joe Douglas still unable to put competent special teams on the field, and Tomlinson.

  10. 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said:


    I don’t. But since none of the issues seem to be getting fixed, at some point you wonder if this is less a protecting-his-players thing and more a reflection of how the organization actually feels about an effort like today’s.


    I think they probably know that Joe Flacco and what they were able to cobble together for an offensive line ain’t it.  What’s the fix?

  11. 1 hour ago, k-met57 said:

    That’s the MO for this operation. I am sure they will all congregate and pat each other on the back for “not giving up”. At least Rex got pissed.


    Do you honestly think what the coach says to the media after the game means anything?

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  12. 5 minutes ago, ASH1962 said:

    Hope Salesman plays Garret Wilson more than 3 plays when the game is still within reach. Hope he knows he has a back up QB with great running legs relegated to the PS. Hope he realizes Flacco stinks and should be a back up only, regardless of who the starter is. Hope he realizes that the game was not over altogether at 10-3 and give Mike White a series or 2 when Flacco stunk it up. You never know, White could have gotten hot.

    Come on, stop making excuses for Coach Salesman, he is not a good HC. He's a real good talker, and has shown nothing but talk in the year he's been here. They've shown no improvement with supposedly beter personel thanks to the greatest GM in history, and have seemingly no chance to compete with good teams like today and its painfully obvious as to why.

    Garrett was in his first NFL game.  He's going to be a good player.  He was not the difference between a win and a loss, or even a close game today.

    It's not about making excuses.  It's about actually looking at what's going one.  2nd string QB, ravaged and underwhelming offensive line... The defense was actually admirable for a bit, considering.  The supposed greatest HC of all time is .500 since losing his QB, and possibly trending downwards.  We don't have the horses to be good.  The team wasn't a mess out there - they just weren't good enough.

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  13. 44 minutes ago, Alka said:

    I respectfully don't agree.  Certainly there are other elements to this loss, but coaching is certainly one of them.

    Deciding how the secondary would play man to man or not, starting Joe Flacco or White based upon their individual strengths and weaknesses.  Another head coach might have started White over Flacco.  Another coach might have had the team play man-to man, and this seems to be a strength of Sauce, who we picked up with our first pick. How come the tight ends were not involved in the game until very late?  Didn't the Jets just invest so much in the tight end position?  Isn't it up to the coaching staff to implement that part of the offense?

    I think that coaching was not the primary reason for this loss, but to me, it is a secondary but not primary factor. 

    Most of this is hindsight analysis.

    Sauce wasn't the problem, so saying he should have played differently isn't the problem either.  The problem is they have Sauce, Reed, and then no one seems to belong on an NFL field.

    As for the offense, it doesn't matter who you try to throw the ball to if you have no time to throw.  We got killed by injuries, Fant regressed (hopefully due to consistently swapping sides), and our FA guard addition was not good.  Throwing to the TEs started working because Baltimore stopped needing to do anything but keep the ball in front of them.

    The team is another good offseason away from not being a bottom feeder, and that's IF we can get any kind of QB play.

  14. 46 minutes ago, undertow said:

    Can you explain to a dummy like me why every other team in the league played a competitive game today?

    Because we're still one of the least talented teams in the league, and most of our talent was playing their first game, we have non-functioning special teams, all of which is almost insignificant in comparison to the fact that we were starting Joe Flacco (any other teams starting their backup this week?) and the offensive line has been ravaged by injuries and was essentially a disaster?

    Happy to help.

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