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  1. No but Im pretty sure the JETS are nto in business to put in a lesser QB so he can learn and maybe wind up better....

    I SAID that he must prove he is better than Chad THAT MOMENT... not with a few games... we cant just play someone based on the hope *HOPE* that he MIGHT be better...

    So rather than take a risk on something, we just settle with and accept mediocrity? If you don't take a risk, you won't put yourself in position to win a championship. Chad has already shown that we won't win a championship with him unless we suddenly get ultra talented on defense.


  2. Jay Cutler - has proved nothing yet, his team fell right out of the playoffs when he came in

    Tony Romo - Showed good flashes and also stunk it up at times, has proved nothing.

    JP Losman - proved nothing

    Matt Hasselbeck - him and his career 85 passer rating are less than impressive and he is a 9 year vet now...

    Marc Bulger - fantasy football king, nothing more

    Eli Manning - perfect example of a good young QB prospect stinking it up

    Jason Campbell - Who? What has he done?

    Leftwich - has almost lost his starting job...

    Big Ben - Great Defense... this guy is over rated... even you know this

    Travaris Jackson - They put him in over Brad Johnson and Brooks... cmon... what has he done?

    Chris Simms - He hasnt proven anything and might not even be a starter anymore...

    When Chad Pennington plays for the NYJ, they win, they get in the playoffs, and with a running game and some improvements on D (we couldnt stop ANYBODY in the 4th Q) we will win in the playoffs.

    Do you ever decide to back up your opinions with facts, or do you just say, this is my opinion, and it's right?

    Roethlisberger is overrated, yes, but still younger than Chad and has shown flashes of being way better.

    Bulger isn't better because... why? His team hasn't one? Not his fault. He's been a good quarterback. Better than Pennington.

    Excluding Hasselbeck's down year last year, where he was injured as well as his franchise RB, he's better than Pennington. His receivers drop a lot, too. He's probably on the downside of his career, though.

    I already went over JP Losman in the other thread:

    Good try. This was his first year where he started 16 games. The year before, he played in 9 and started 8 because he did do terrible. Rookie season, he played in 4 and started 0.

    Last year, he one more turnover (21 to 20), more TDs (20 to 17), less yards (by 301), higher YPA (by 0.20), higher rating (84.9 to 82.6), and 2 less completion % points. He's also younger and has had two less rotator cuff surgeries. You could call it a push, but I'd lean towards Losman.

    He has improved since his first year as a starter.

    Plus, he has way more mobility.

    It was Cutler's rookie year and he played five games, so he can't even be judged against Pennington. He has the potential to be better, though, and at this point, I'd take a young quarterback who has looked good and hasn't had two shoulder surgeries on his throwing arm over Pennington.

    It's hard to base Romo off of one year, but he DEFINITELY looked better than Chad last year. If you want to discredit him for being good some games and bad others, then maybe you should judge Pennington the same way, ya think?

    I'll give you Chad over Tavaris Jackson and Jason Campbell only because of their inexperience.

    I'll definitely take Chad over Chris Simms and Byron Leftwich, because he's better than both.

    Eli Manning is tough to call, because his numbers kind of look better than Chad's, but watching him play is absolutely nervewracking, moreso than Pennington, which I didn't think was possible. He's still young, but I'd call it a push/coin toss between those two.


  3. It all lies on Pennington. I think that if he can perform at a level slightly higher than last year, we can have a great, great offense. Otherwise, he's crippling our offense, and significantly. His weak arm that causes him to float throws, even the swing passes, his ignorant decisions (see: vs. Chicago, Urlacher INT), etc. If he can stop floating the ball (maybe that full offseason of recovery makes that significant of an impact?) and gets his head in the game, but I doubt it.


  4. oh really or mabe you are so bliinded by his sexiness that you forgot the hit cotch got in the patriots game. a LB gave him that hit. a freakin LB, open field hit like that almost never happens by a LB, if the ball gets there on time. what about that hit that leon got in the miami game. and what about a play later coles gets jacked up and misses couple of plays cuz he had a cuncusion

    You don't miss a couple of plays because of a concussion. You miss multiple games and perhaps an entire season. The Jets and Coles both denied a concussion, and it turned out to be a jaw injury only, if I'm not mistaken.

    And as far as his "sexiness," I'm not a fan of Chad Pennington.


  5. Losman been a starter for three years and has done squat. Sorry no dice there either.

    Good try. This was his first year where he started 16 games. The year before, he played in 9 and started 8 because he did do terrible. Rookie season, he played in 4 and started 0.

    Last year, he one more turnover (21 to 20), more TDs (20 to 17), less yards (by 301), higher YPA (by 0.20), higher rating (84.9 to 82.6), and 2 less completion % points. He's also younger and has had two less rotator cuff surgeries. You could call it a push, but I'd lean towards Losman.

    He has improved since his first year as a starter.


  6. From what was made available to the public it sounded to me as if Chad was a major reason we won 10 games and made the playoffs last year.

    Of course, that could just have been Mangini blowing smoke up our butts.

    Well, Mangini and the coaching staff can tell me what I saw, or I can judge it myself.

    I'm not questioning his leadership or character, if that is what you are insinuating was a major factor of Pennington's contribution. Too bad it doesn't take a good guy to win a Super Bowl, but a good quarterback.


  7. Lets see... based on the starters from the end of 06'

    Cleo Lemon

    Whoever the raiders QB wound up being...

    David Carr

    Jay Cutler

    Jake Delhomme

    Charlie Frye

    Jeff Garcia

    Trent Green

    Rex Grossman

    Travaris Jackson

    JP Losman

    Jon Kitna

    Ben Rotheleselesburger

    Tony Romo

    Either Jags QB

    He is better than all of them

    I agree with Smizzy about the whole starting full time thing..

    Pennington is infinitely better than Grossman. Most quarterbacks are. The only reason Grossman came so close to a SB was the defense. I'll take JP Losman over Pennington. Carr can be better if he wasn't on a such a terrible team, so I'll give you Pennington over him. Delhomme played only 13 games, but wasn't doing all that bad and is at the end of his career anyway.

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