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  1. Some things I enjoyed while watching the replay:

    1) I like seeing and recalling all of the players that played for us in 2000 and are now ex - Jets. Its amazing how much of a difference 7 years makes.

    2) Listening to the announcers talk about how Curtis Martin still has a bright career in front of him.

    3) Listening to the announcers talk about how Parcells' move from NE to NY has changed things around a lot. 'Now the Patriots are struggling and will likely be looking for a new head coach at the end of the season'... Nostalgia for the good ol' days.:P

  2. how the **** does this numbskull find time for a 12 page interview every other day? this one interview contains more words than mangini has spoken to his wife in 10 years!!

    What did I say in the other Herm thread about him and Mangini being COMPLETE opposites?? Its been proven true time and time again.

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  3. It's way too early to start speculating...but JM could feasibly be cut from the team... who knows really but I don't think we'll miss a beat without him. The only thing you keep him around for is that potential to be a starting CB. If you don't think thats gonna happen then we can find someone else to return kicks that I'm not worried about.

    You seem to have missed my point. The point is, even if JM is on the roster come Sept. 9th, I very seriously doubt he'll get any playing time in that game, and possibly games following that. I wasn't trying to imply that JM will be cut, I was speculating about what this incident will mean for the Jets going down the road. Since some sort of reprocussion is just about necessary...

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  4. What!? Who says Miller is being released? If he is, who said he's to be cut, and not traded? This is a ridiculously uneducated thread.....

    Fact is, nobody truly knows what happened (just yet).

    Reports vary from Miller fighting a crowd of foul-mouthed women, to fighting three men. They also vary from Miller being picked up by a police-car, to being delivered to the club by out-of-breath officers.

    He could have straight up punched a woman, or he could have attempted to defend himself from getting "jumped"... Truth is, we don't know yet. So deciding what coach will do is a bit premature.

    If you read my post, I never said anything about him being released OR traded. There is a possibility that he will be suspended, if not by the league, then by the Jets themselves. Tangini does not want to be known for standing for this crap...

  5. I know almost everyone reading this knows that Justin Miller was arrested at around 4am sunday morning and accused of 3rd degree misdemeanor (assault). After JM punched a woman, he also apparently tried to run from the cops before he got caught (how the police possibly caught up to him still puzzles me). Anyway, I was wondering how this arrest will affect the Jets organization down the road. One obvious way is that the Jets will, most likely, be without their best kick returner for at least the season opener against NE. But, depending on the reprocussions that the league and/or the Jets give to Miller, the team will have to look for other alternatives at both KR and CB. For one, the rumor that Barrett will be a salary cap victim (football terms for cut) is probably no longer feasible considering theyre already starting to lack depth at the position. Another rumor circulating was that Dwight may also be cut, we currently have 7 recievers including Stuckey and Pellot - Rosa, leaving both Dwight and Mccariens expendable. However, if Miller is not available to return kickoffs next season, does that mean we have to keep one, or both of those players as security options at the KR position? This incident was not only bad for JM and the Jets because of the consequences that they will have to pay, but the aftermath of JM's actions may force Tangini into even more uncomfortable situations with other players on the team.

    What do you think?

  6. I think Tjones will have an impact, but the run blocking was terrible last year. And, unless I've missed something, we havent done much this offseason to correct that problem. In fact, if the rumors that Kendall will be gone by training camp are true, we may have even gotten worse in that area. Thomas Jones is a good RB, but he'll still need guys to block for him. Anyway, I look forward to seeing how Mangini/Schottenheimer incorporate Jones into the offense, and how T. Jones will affect the play of Cotchery and Coles. I also look forward to the training camp battles on the defensive side of the ball. Especially if Barton and Barrett stick around, just about every position will be up for grabs.

  7. The list looked ok, but you are correct. No way in hell sould Winslow be on it. But I don't think Coles should be on it either for that matter. I think Rhodes should be and if you are looking at last year I would say that T. Jones should be on it also.

    if you are looking at last year how don't you have Coles on that list???

    #12 in the league for receiving yds last season, http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/RECYDS/2006/regular and #6 in the NFL for receptions, http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/REC/2006/regular. I would take him over players like Kellen Winslow any day.

  8. QB - Tom Brady

    RB - Thomas Jones

    FB - Corey Schlesinger

    WR -Lee Evans

    WR -Chris Chambers

    WR - Randy Moss

    TE - Ben Watson

    LT - Matt Light

    LG - Logan Mankins

    C - Nick Mangold

    RG - Steve Neal

    RT - Anthony Clement

    34 defense

    CB - Asante Samuel

    CB - Andre Dyson

    SS - Rodney Harrison

    FS - Kerry Rhodes

    LOLB - Roosevelt Colvin

    ROLB - Adalius Thomas

    LILB - Zach Thomas

    RILB - Mike Vrabel

    RDE - Richard Seymour

    NT - Vince Wilfork

    LDE - Ty Warren

    PR - Wes Welker

    KR - Justin Miller

    K - Mike Nugent

    P - Brian Moorman

    Got it right except for WR. I'd definately put Coles over Evans.

  9. Something else I realized: Mangini and Herm are opposites.

    Mangini: Preaches consistancy and focus, expert gameplaner, rarely talks to the media, and speaks with almost a monotone at nearly every press conference. However, the media and fans still love him for his modesty and his subtle humor.

    Herm Edwards: Preaches loyalty to veterans over everything, even talent. Lets the veterans decide whether or not to work out, come to practice, or play. Expert speechgiver, motivationalist, and BSer. Terrible gameplaner. Spoke with anyone who asked for an interview and was always very elaborate in such interviews and press conferences. Went on rants after big losses about how "you play to win the game" and let the team do whatever after a win. However, the media and fans still hated him because he couldn't coach for ****.

    Just thought I'd get that thought out...

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  10. Dont know if this was posted but I saw this article on PFW and was somewhat shocked the Jets didnt have one player mentioned.


    How can Kellen Winslow be on the list and not a guy like LC or Kerry Rhodes?

    Am I being too big of a homer here?

    No, youre not being a homer. The reason players like LC and Kerry Rhodes are never mentioned on this list is because they both are 'low - key' players. In other words, you will never see either of them on ESPN bragging about how good they are. They are the type of players Mangini is looking for, guys that are blue collar, hard working, and whose focus is primarily on the football field.

  11. Justin Miller is still 50/50 on whether he will be on the Jets' roster by September 9th.

    He could be traded or released or he could be back with the team for '07 and if he stays out of trouble will be back in '08 as well. We shall see what punishment, if any, Goodell gives him. Keep in mind, he hasn't done anything since he was in the league. His prior bad moves come in his 3 years at Clemson.

    Something is to be said though. What is with these players staying out past 3am seemingly every night of the offseason? What is so much fun at 3, 4 am that can't happen between 12-2am? There is no need to be clubbin' at 4am when you're making millions and need to stay out of trouble or else you will lose some of those millions.

    Justin Miller will certainly be punished somehow, if not by the league then by the Jets. The question is, are the Jets willing to keep him and punish him or just trade him. I think just about everyone agrees it would be stupid to release him.

  12. Prior to this incident, I would have agreed with you perhaps, but this little series of events has to hurt his trade value. We picked him up in rd2. I seriously doubt that if the Jets refuse to keep him around other teams will cough up a day 1 pick, especially knowing the Jets have no intention of keeping him. He is what you would call damaged goods; rd 6 or 7 at best I would guess...

    If it is rds 6 or 7 at best, the Jets should definately keep him and attempt to groom him themselves. I personally think we can get a little bit higher for JM because of the tremendous potential he offers, but I still don't know if I would get rid of him so fast.

  13. Here is my list....

    Peyton Manning

    Tom Brady

    Carson Palmer

    Drew Brees

    Donovan McNabb

    Matt Hasselbeck

    Marc Bulger

    Eli Manning

    Philip Rivers

    Ben Roethlisberger

    Byron Leftwich

    Jake Delhomme

    Steve McNair

    Michael Vick

    Trent Green

    Brett Favre - This tier is interchangeable

    Tony Romo

    Jay Cutler

    Matt Leinart

    Vince Young

    J.P. Losman

    Chad Pennington

    Jason Campbell

    Alex Smith

    Rex Grossman

    Matt Schaub

    Damon Huard

    Jeff Garcia

    Tarvaris Jackson

    Jon Kitna

    Charlie Frye

    Josh McCown

    Just swich the interchangable list with the list Romo and Pennington are in and youve just about got it right...

  14. welcome aboard and nice post...I'm glad they are mentioning that they will wait on the facts. What kind of trade value would this guy have?

    Thanks for the welcome...looking forward to posting here. Anyway, I think the trade value for Justin Miller woule be probably around a rd 2 or 3 draft pick because he is only 23 yrs old and has already made a pro bowl as a kick returner. He also has average height for a CB and good intangibles, so he can have a very good career if he can somehow turn his athleticism into talent to use as a defender.

  15. The Jets released a statement saying that they have reported the arrest to NFL commisioner Roger Goodell. They also said that they will review all the facts before coming to any conclusions or commenting further. The fact that Miller is a good young player will make it hard for the Jets to cut him, however, a trade is possible, especially with the drafting of Revis. This is the perfect example as to why Tangini loves signing and drafting character guys. Becuase its no fun for any organization to be put in this sort of situation where one of their key players gets in off the field trouble.

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