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WHERE IS CHARLIE BURKOWITZ????

I had no idea Gil Brandt was a poster here.

Their YPA was exactly the same. Feel free to spin that in any pro-Sanchez way you want...

Don't shank the messenger, Crush.

I'd roll with one of them (I think we'd have a better record last year with Tebow, no way to prove that though) The idea of both of them co-existing in some sort of two qb hybrid system is less appealing to me. I also don't like the idea of being married to Sanchez for another year at that money.

I pray this is true.

Yeah, we'll be screaming for Sanchez' 8 for 17, 130 yards and two int. If you wanted to be accurate then these would be the numbers in your fantasy game: Tebow is the guy with 8 completions. Sanchez has 9 They both throw for 130 yards Sanchez two interceptions (maybe a pick six) Tebow one (no pick six, a little further down the field than to a defensive lineman) Tebow runs for fifty yards Sanchez runs for his life That's about right.

He's a third round projection, I believe.

You said don't pin it on Sanchez, those games were on the D. Doesn't that mean you're pinning the loss on the defense? Big plays, long drives happen in every game. To cherry pick those two instances and pin even PART of those losses on the defense is well, indefensible.

4:42, 4:55

Why not set out to win every game 13-10?

Giants game: Sanchez went 30 for 59, two interceptions, a fumble and put up fourteen points. Eli Manning went 9 for 27 with one TD and one INT. Broncos game: We scored thirteen points. The Broncos had 220 yds of total offense. Only members of Mark Sanchez' family would pin these losses on the defense. No mention of the Dolphin game, I see.

If I didn't watch any games last year, I would still think Mark Sanchez was a pretty crappy QB last year that probably cost his team a few games.

I think this is what he meant to write...

Yeah, why hire anybody at all, amirite? Since you'll never see the 85 Bears again, why even have defensive coordinators? It's ******* silly.

This is all very confusing. lol The choices: 1) Shortchange the offense by making risky picks in the later round for offensive playmakers that everyone else will pass up on for the first hundred or so picks of the draft while trying to build an All Time Defense, when in fact the days of the All Time Defense is a thing of the past. 2) You draft offensive playmakers which may be sacrificed at the altar of the wildcat and ground and pound and be as useful to your team as t!ts on a bull. 3) You build an offensive line that will make ground and pound possible and hope you never get down by more than ten points with your all time defense. This may be part of 1) 4) You realize you're kind of ****ed, have a balanced draft and build for the future, hopefully a future that doesn't include a really, really crappy QB. It's ******* whack-a-mole.

Should the Jets go for two every time with Tebow? By Doug Farrar | Shutdown Corner – 23 hours ago Email They couldn't stop him then... (AP) We're all still trying to figure out how the New York Jets will execute the first successful two-quarterback rotation in NFL history with Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow, but one thing's for sure -- when you acquire Tebow, as the Jets recently did, you've got yourself one impressive red zone weapon. Little-known factoid: At Florida, Tebow racked up as many collegiate rushing touchdowns as Marshall Faulk did at San Diego State, and that number (57) is good for eighth in college football history. In his first NFL season, Tebow scored six rushing touchdowns for the Denver Broncos in just 43 attempts. 2011 saw his first real time as a serious NFL starting quarterback, but Tebow still excelled in the red zone, scoring six more rushing TDs on 122 attempts. Jason Lisk of The Big Lead hypothesizes that with Tebow, the Jets should almost always go for a two-point conversion instead of an extra point, and it's a very solid case. Last year, New York scored 30 touchdowns in the first three quarters of games. Well, if Tebow only converts at the same rate from the 3 yard line or in as he has for his career (9 for 16), then it's almost 4 points over a season. Coaches obsess over little things, so a strategy that could result in four more points is not inconsequential. It's not going to win a Super Bowl alone, but it optimizes points. [...] [...] I don't know what Tebow would average, but my guess is that while he wouldn't be perfect as teams adapted, the chances of him exceeding 60% are better than being significantly below 50% and making the strategy sub-optimal. To this point, he has not been utilized all out. [Denver Broncos head coach John] Fox got praised a fair amount last year, but was honestly very conservative in using Tebow in the one area his skills dictated it, short yardage. Denver was a punting machine on 4th and 1 or 2. They only went for two points when they absolutely had to. When the Broncos beat the Miami Dolphins last year in an overtime game, I went through the Dolphins' defensive braincramps caused by Tebow's dual ability as a passer and rusher inside the opposing 10-yard line. ...and they can't stop him now. (AP) On the touchdown, it seems that the Dolphins ran a coverage that had the defensive backs running with the receivers by assignment instead of handing off into zones. Because of that, the crossing route run by Eddie Royal (19) took cornerback Jimmy Wilson (27) out of any possibility to take flat responsibility. In layman's terms, Wilson vacating the defensive left side (whether on purpose or by accident) allowed Fells to be as wide open as he's ever been in his entire life. Add in the blitz by linebacker Karlos Dansby (58), and there was nobody on the defensive left side. If you're going to blitz, how about a zone blitz that puts Dansby on assignment with the tight end? On the two-point conversion, it looks like the Broncos sandbagged the Dolphins after the Dolphins called a timeout — there was a lot of talk on the Denver sidelines about what to do on the play for what was eventually a quarterback keeper. In my opinion, Miami let Denver dictate the action by falling prey to the idea that Tebow would throw in that position, despite the fact that he'd been throwing horribly most of the day. Miami's defense went wide, and when cornerback Will Allen (25) blitzed and overpursued, that left no run fit and a huge gap for Tebow to walk right into the end zone. The real problem Tebow represents as a red zone weapon is that when all eyes are on him, it also opens up other options for his teammates, and the Dolphins game was a great example of that. With their power blocking and run-first set of schemes, the Jets could very well take Tebow back to his days as an unstoppable conversion machine -- and if they want to get the maximum value out of the deal, that's a must-do strategy.

Please change title of thread to : Holmes Just Wants the Ball From Tebow

Wow, Max works in mysterious ways. I just posted that and hit refresh and there he was..

Who the hell are those other guys on the banner? Oh, I know who they are.. NOT TIMMY TEBOW. Get him on the banner in four different poses ASAP

Hey, how about you wait til after the draft before you put yourself in the hospital. BTW Anyone that refers to Sanchez as "Mark" loses a ton of credibility to me automatically. You're crying about Reggie Nelson? Drew Stanton will NEVER be half the QB that Tim Tebow is. You think Drew Stanton would have led the Broncos back from 1-4 to the second round of the playoffs? The really funny thing about this is that Tim Tebow "can't throw the football", yet he was every bit as good as Sanchez last year. Especially if you factor in the YPA being the same, the interception rate being MUCH lower and the fact that Tim Tebow is way more of a running threat, his teammates actually support him and rally around him, as opposed to Sanchez, who, apparently has issues with his work ethic, and some of the worst body language after one of his numerous mistakes. You don't think the locker room was divided last year? You know why it was? Because the QB SUCKED. The receivers hated him, the defense I'm sure appreciated being on the field alot. You think it can get worse? What's going to happen? Attica? The National Guard being brought in? There is no reason to cry, none, unless, of course you like crying, which it sounds you do. The Patriots do things the way things are supposed to be done? You mean like Haynesworth and Ochocinco? It's easy to look like IB ******* M when your QB is Tom Brady, whom you lucked your a$$ off to get in the sixth round. Please, please tell me which player you are targeting in the fourth round. We'll pretend that the Tebow trade never happened. Who you taking in that spot? Please be specific, since your attitude indicates you know what you're doing and the front office is full of idiots.

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Anyone know if Bill Todman is still available?

Yeah, but there running td's no? Maybe there should be a separate stat for "had to be a passing td" td's. So, you're saying that a negative td to interception ratio is actually not necessarily such a bad thing?

The problem is that we weren't middle of the pack. I think it's a dangerous game you play when you plan on winning 13-10 every week. Abandoning the offense because, hey, they suck means that they will continue to do so for years to come. There must be some semblance of balance, no?