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  1. what's your role JIF? There is no role that can't be revealed.. Quit lying.

    I never said it cant be revealed...it does not have that restriction. Its my opinion that me telling the town who I am is not a good thing.

    I have already been targeted once, I will surely be targeted again, there is no reason to put the town in any more risk. If I tell you my role, others will be exposed and that is exactly what you are tying to do right now.

    You are a zombie.

  2. Jif, if you are who you say you are when you get lynched it will not say "roleless innocent" so whats with the urgency? If you have a role (which you don't) I'm sure I will be the next person lynched..

    Could it be that you are just anxious to get the town cop lynched???

    and it's pretty obvious why I targeted those who have returned from the dead. The game involves zombies, i.e. the walking dead. Which you and shutout are. Further I've said I have guilty on Jets THings but that I don't trust it, and didn't even mention you until you came after me, so you can't even be honest when you make a case. I have shown no rush to have all three of you lynched as you state above..

    The urgency is simple.

    You have taken this town for a very long ride filled with horse dung.

    I know for a fact that you are a zombie. You are a very smart player and you have already convinced JVOR to change his vote and BG to vote me. Thats why I wanted you gone quickly, its pretty simple reasoning.

  3. Agreed. Has CTM ever been right about anyone other than Vic. Thats the only zombie kill he's giving us, and I pretty much offered that.

    Here we have the "confirmed" Doc agreeing with me. Is this not telling enough?

    Guys, I started the case against Woody. I called b.s. on Vic, I never believed him but went along with it because you all told me to and then I tried to help him.

    What this did was expose me. I had a very good case that would have led you to CTM and a couple of others, I died the next night. CTM revealed shortly after.

    Again, i just wanted to see what results you had and if they matched up with who i expected you to have.

    Right now the pressure is on Jif to say what role he actually has. Because to be pretty honest, how do you know CTM is guilty?

    HE DOESNT HAVE RESULTS. HE IS FULL OF ****!!! How can you not see this?

    I can not tell you what I am or the town will lose. There is a reason why the Zombies attempted to take my life again and why CTM is going after all the returned players.

    Why did he immediately request a lynch on shutout. He then tried to convince his Zombie brethren to kill me. He failed. Now he is looking to go after JT because he has a very convient confirmation that he is a Zombie. I think its ironic that all he is giving up as well is a confirmed innocent on a known dead innocent (Doggin). And notice how he didnt give up his investigation results untill heat was placed on him.

    The only problem I have with this theory is JiF was revealed as a roleless innocent when he died. So he didn't have a role before, but does now? JiF seems to be pushing the "trust me" card hard without anything to back up his claims. It's just way too convenient that if JiF is lying or even just mistaken, it works out extremely well for the zombies.

    I have a ton to back my claims with, you guys just dont want to listen to me.

    Jif, what's the deal with the "mall character?" How do you know CTM is guilty for sure? Why didn't you die in the night phase?

    I don't think it hurts the town at this point if Jif elaborates.

    I have pretty much answered all these questions. I dont know why I didnt die last night.

    I have told you before, everything I have done in this game has had a reason.

    FTR, if for some reason you guys dont vote CTM and I die. Look back at the players that are defending CTM. They are more than likely a Zombie.

  4. I have a SERIOUS problem with the great stance for wanting to kill off a confirmed uncountered cop being "trust me". Hell, all it would take is that you came back as a zombie and listening to you screws us to no end.

    If CTM gets lynched and comes up cop, you obviously die next. Only problem is then when you're zombie, we got you, but now we've likely got two more still out there with no cop to track them down with and another 2 NKs from tonight and tomorrow night in the books. That's a scenario that seems to fall pretty damn well in favor of the zombies.

    So why should we trust you exactly?

    Ofcourse you do. I have explained, all I can explain. If I go further, the town is in trouble. I understand all your suspcisions.

    Why do you think the confirmed Doc joined me on my vote immediately after the night phase with no hesistation? Nobody countered him...

    CTM is b.s.ing you all.

    You should trust because of what I have explained. I have a power. I used this power on CTM. My power failed which means CTM is a zombie.

    Telling you all the power will basically result in a loss for the town. I already had one attempt at my life. I am going to need protection from here on out.

    Also, JIF strike one.

    1) Quick lynch is a bad idea.

    2) I find your lack of clarification disturbing.

    A quick lynch is not a bad idea. CTM is a smart player and he has already manipulated every single one of you and the longer you keep him around the further this game goes.

    Dont be disturbed. CTM is a Zombie I know this for a fact.

    I find it interesting how Jif does not want to give CTM a chance to defend himself.

    This is how I see it:

    To automatically get one out of two people to show up as mafia, side with Jif and kill CTM. Let his death vindicate or villify Jif. Move from there. This way we find out the guilty without forcing Jif to give up his information which can be crucial.

    I am particularly interested in Crusher's relationship to Jif. They show some affection for each other: some obvious post restriction. Crusher is our doctor so this makes me believe Jif has some power related to this role. I actually have a fairly good guess at what this might be but I'm not sharing it for Jif's own sake.

    Same as above. He has already taken you all for a glorious ride. He is an experienced smart player that will be able to defend himself. I dont think we should give him the chance because I know for a 100% fact that CTM is a Zombie.

    Once again fellas, please go back and look at what I have posted since my return. I have questioned the validity to his role since I have come back to life.

    CTM is in fact 100% Zombie.

  5. There is a reason why since I have returned that I immediately started to question the reveal that happened after my death....CTM.

    I can not give you guys details, because it would be very bad for the town to let you know who I am at this point.

    When I voted JVOR, I told you guys, you want me around. I can help this town win.

    I was given a power. This power is for the better of the town. My choice was to use this power upon CTM because I dont buy his b.s.

    My power was not affective because CTM is a Zombie.

    Trust me. We need to Lynch CTM right now and give him no time to defend himself and no time for someone to counter, fake or not.

    Trust me!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Seriously Jif, Crusher has been doing an excellent job this game. Just let him do what he's doing. What the hell do you hope to gain by making him tell you who he has been protecting? Say he tells you exactly who it is? What have you now learned? Anything significant?

    Like I said, I'm leaning towards innocent with you and JT, but I think your concerns are a little misguided here.

    The reason why I keep saying wondering whether a godfather isn't in this game is pointless is that we won't know for sure if there is no godfather until the game is over. But as long as we assume a godfather is possible, we don't make the mistake of assuming a confirmed innocent is proven 100% innocent. That's all i'm saying.

    I say let CTM release his investigations. It's not just a prioritized hitlist at this point in this game, it becomes a prioritized lynch list. We go after those who have stayed alive the entire game who do not have confirmed innocent to their names. There must be some mafia without godfather protection within them. If there is no godfather, than there are 2 mafia among those without investigations. game over.

    if there is a godfather, we turn to those who have stayed alive the entire time WITH confirmed innocent status as possible godfather.

    If there is multiple dead bodies, JT and Jif immediately become prime suspects for serial killer. If you both are innocent, you have no problem with this plan, right?

    I have no problem with this plan at all.

    Like I said earlier to CTM, I have not been involved in the game. All I am trying to do is get some conversation going about concerns that I have seen from playing catch up. I dont see whats wrong with that and Im sorry if its making some of you repeat yourselves.

  7. Oy! Just trust Crusher cannot talk about who he's been protecting, it gives away too much info. I suspect the scum know full well who he protected the night doggin died because doggin doesn't seem to have been killed by mafia a) his brains weren't eaten B) apparently doggin planned when he would die, shutout was contacted a full day before doggin wound up dead, that means if doggin did bring them back he choose to do it at his leisure (since nobody would have known doggin was going to die at that point)

    If the above theory is right, it's 2 extra players, since doggin died to bring back 3, that means a net gain of 2...

    Fair enough. I havent been involved in the game. I just want to hear some talk around these topics.

    Given the info you have I'm sure that's true, but I think I get what JiF is getting at here. There has to be a catch. For the town to get back 3 players, that means there's got to be something going on with the zombies to balance it out (unless of course these 3 aren't really all still innocent). If you go with our original assumption that the starting layout of the game called for 4 zombies, then that would've been 12-4 town-to-zombie, which is your typical ratio. But now with this recent twist, that really would've made it 15-4. It seems unlikely EY would stack the deck that heavily in our favor. At this point, the existence of a godfather has to be a serious consideration.

    Yes, thats what I am getting at here.

    What do you think about Doggin's suicide? Was he able to save 3 people he wanted to bring back or do you think that he had to bring back the last 3 deaths? What do you think about JT being lynched and returned, but Shutout and I were NK'ed?

  8. You shouldn't ask that question because it helps the scum..

    Well, first off they obviously attempted last night as there was no brain eating. Beyond that, they have seemed to prefer a sure kill on a presumed innocent over the risk of a blocked NK since they were down by heavy numbers at one point. Not a bad strategy frankly..

    If you and JT are innocent, it's highly unlikely that there are 3 left, unless there is a godfather character in the game..

    The question is somewhat rhetorical. Obviously, Crusher hasnt had a successful save in awhile, so its safe to assume he has been protecting you. This isnt rocket science and if the Zombies have been choosing to go with the sure kill, they are aware as well and its not hurting by asking.

    I didnt think about the possibility that last night there might have been an attempted kill and Doggin took himself out so there was a death scence, but potentially you might have been protected. If Crusher admitted to that, I dont see how it hurts the town.

    I believe there are 3 left, with a very good chance of a Godfather, whom you might have investigated and got a innocent result. Why else would EY bring 3 innocent players back to life? The town was doing just fine. FTR, I am going off the assumption that JT is innocent as well, but I have my doubts. Both Shutout and I were NK'ed, Shutout turned up innocent, I will too, but JT was lynched....could there be a difference?

  9. Welcome back goodlooking. I thought maybe one of the players brought back killed Doggin. Possibly the last one brought back. As my protection go's, EY has given my character amnesia. I only know if I give out more info I lose one of my teste's. Weird game .

    I <3 U.

    Don't ask Crusher details of who he has been protecting. That kind of info helps only the mafia, it doesn't help the town in any way.

    I can ask any question I want to ask to any player that I have a question for...you and your Zombie buddies should know that.

    It's curious to me that CTM and Crusher are totally presumed innocent and their roles are 100% believed by all. I am having a hard time believing that Zombies havent taken one shot at the Doc or the Cop since the reveal.

  10. This game is definitely interesting.

    Alright. I'm on board with the Doggin is responsible for our return logic. I believe the syringe in the death scene means he killed himself and sacrificed for the town to bring 3 players back.

    Here's what is killing me, why was Jet Things brought back to life? Me and Shutout were both NK'ed. JT was lynched? Why wasnt SMC brought back and will he? Or was Doggin allowed to pick the players to comeback or was it just the last 3 to die?

    1. Doggin94it - Killed Night 5

    2. RaoulDuke

    3. Irish Jet

    4. War Ensemble

    5. shutout - Lynched Day 6

    6. WoodyPaige - Lynched Day 3

    7. Crusher

    8. Jets Things - Lynched Day 5

    9. SMC - Killed Night 1

    10. Vicious98x - Lynched Day 4

    11. CTM

    12. Norway - Lynched Day 2

    13. JiF - Killed Night 3

    14. JetsBabe - Lynched Day 1

    15. Bleedin' Green

    16. JVOR

    Lets just assume everyone in blue is dead for good and all 3 of us returned to help the town. EY might have set it up the timing of the game this way because there are more Zombies than in a normal mafia game. Therefore the suicide came in time for 3 more players to return to help the town.

    I havent been involved in the game for awhile. Crusher, have you been protecting CTM every night? CTM, of the people that you have investigated, how many are still alive? Are we all to assume that the Zombies havent made a single attempt to take down the known Detective or Doctor since CTM revealed?

    Potentially 3 Zombies left....IMO.

  11. This game is definitely interesting.

    Alright. I'm on board with the Doggin is responsible for our return logic. I believe the syringe in the death scene means he killed himself and sacrificed for the town to bring 3 players back.

    Here's what is killing me, why was Jet Things brought back to life? Me and Shutout were both NK'ed. JT was lynched? Why wasnt SMC brought back and will he? Or was Doggin allowed to pick the players to comeback or was it just the last 3 to die?

    1. Doggin94it - Killed Night 5

    2. RaoulDuke

    3. Irish Jet

    4. War Ensemble

    5. shutout - Lynched Day 6

    6. WoodyPaige - Lynched Day 3

    7. Crusher

    8. Jets Things - Lynched Day 5

    9. SMC - Killed Night 1

    10. Vicious98x - Lynched Day 4

    11. CTM

    12. Norway - Lynched Day 2

    13. JiF - Killed Night 3

    14. JetsBabe - Lynched Day 1

    15. Bleedin' Green

    16. JVOR

    Lets just assume everyone in blue is dead for good and all 3 of us returned to help the town. EY might have set it up the timing of the game this way because there are more Zombies than in a normal mafia game. Therefore the suicide came in time for 3 more players to return to help the town.

    I havent been involved in the game for awhile. Crusher, have you been protecting CTM every night? CTM, of the people that you have investigated, how many are still alive? Are we all to assume that the Zombies havent made a single attempt to take down the known Detective or Doctor since CTM revealed?

  12. your user title "new scum" isn't helping.. ;)

    listen, there's 3 of you, lynch you and there's 2 left to investigate this evening. The game was in the bag until you three climbed out of your coffins so I don't see anymore pressing issue to deal with..

    Alright, I have done my catch up. I have some suspects I am very high on.

    Are you saying that you can investigate 2 players? Or did I miss in my catch up that we have identified another detective?

  13. Guys, WTF?

    I went over to the book store and found a great Tom Clancy novel. My stomach started growling, so I headed back to the Food Court for dinner. I scarfed down some Chinese food and was ready for desert, so I head over to the ice cream shop and started creating one of my famous sundaes and then all of a sudden somebody pushed me in the freezer. Good thing I watched a lot of McGyver back in the day and I managed to get out.

    Why did nobody come looking for me? Its weird. I gave you guys some great ideas and then you completely ignored me.

    See, I'm even underrated in mafia.

    Anyway, I am going to have to go back and look at what has happened since my last post to aid our false detective. I am pretty sure that some of the people I was hoping he targeted are still around and looking scummy as ever, but I need to make sure. Give me a few to read up on things and I should have a case sooner than later.

  14. well if we dont get LB or OL in round 2 who do we get? safety?

    The 3 positions you mentioned are the last 3 I see addressed. Our OL is set up for the long term. Or LB'ers are as well. We just signed Leonhard.

    Personally, I want us to go DE in the 1st and WR in the 2nd.

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