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    Lamar Jackson contract demands are a "non starter"

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    19 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

    your comment that "its not my money" kind of shows that you don't understand how a salary cap works.  

    for how much you have been pounding the table to get him, you should have an idea of what will get him here.  but would you pay $200/4 years fully guaranteed?  (and the 2 draft picks)?

    Yes, I dont understand math.  I would do something creative to give him what he wants and enjoy it.  Not my job to come up w/ the number.  People fear the cap like it's the bogeyman around here, every team w/ a superstar QB is going to deal w/ this, so figure it the F out.

    Lamar Jackson contract demands are a "non starter"

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    2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

    does the XFL make a profit or they just another one of these wanna be leagues that fail miserably?

    Not sure but I watch and it’s fantastic. Far superior product to the NFL from a viewership perspective.  So if I feel that way, everyone will eventually.  Just like Lamar.  I’m a visionary, Barry.  Time and time again when it’s JiF vs the board, I win.  I’m winning, Barry. I’ve actually already won. 

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    Lamar Jackson contract demands are a "non starter"

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    5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

    damn, and here I thought they custom tailored an offense to maximize Lamars skillset which helped him become league MVP. I didn't realize he had to overcome a terrible system and still managed to be league MVP. What a super 500 billion dollar stud!

    Glad you finally see the light, not that hard. 

    Lamar Jackson contract demands are a "non starter"

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    36 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

    I agree ... FOR THE RAVENS ... they are the only team that it makes sense to offer a contract. Why ? Because they have already customized their entire approach to football around the Lamar Jackson Experience. All of the other teams in the NFL have not.

    Dunnie, they hired a new OC to get out of that terrible system.

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    Lamar Jackson contract demands are a "non starter"

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    36 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

    Honestly? The last thing Lamar should be doing is sitting out. He needs to get back on the field ASAP and remind people how good he is. 

    I think what you are missing in a lot of your pro-Lamar rants is that Lamar isn't trending in the right direction. Burrow and Hurts are. It's all about "what have you done for me lately "- I know you know this. You bring up Burrow's injury history, but the fact is, after a brutal season ending injury in his rookie year, he hasn't missed a game since and has led his team to back to back AFC title games and a SB. He's trending up. Hurts has missed 4 games in the past two years, but also just had an MVP caliber season and led his team to the SB. He's trending up. Meanwhile, Lamar has failed to finish the last two seasons with his team in a playoff race (in 2021, his team was the #1 seed in the AFC when he got hurt and in 2022 they were in position to win the AFC North when he got hurt) and his numbers have steadily declined since his MVP year. He's trending down. 

    If Lamar was the MVP this past season, I think he'd have a deal right now. 

    It’s principle, man.  He should call the Rock about the XFL.  It’s a great product. 

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    Lamar Jackson contract demands are a "non starter"

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    29 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

    I know you love the guy, but teams win, not QBs.  This isn't tennis.  When you look at the QBs who got the big contracts the past two years - Watson, Wilson, Murray, Rodgers - why would any other NFL teams follow suit?  Those contracts are horrible.  

    Agreed, teams win but we hold QB's to a different standard, not my preference to judge QB's as I think it's stupid but it's fact.  The difference here for me is, there is no player in the NFL that has a bigger impact on his team, so that's how it's relevant.  Since drafting Lamar Jackson, the Ravens are 45-16 when he plays, 6-11 when he doesnt.  So sure teams win, but apparently not the Ravens w/out Lamar.  The other factor is the points per game, top 5 w/ Lamar, worst in the NFL w/out.  So again, in general, I agree.  Team sport, team wins...but in this situation, the Ravens are the Lamar show and I'd like that on my favorite team, it has nothing to do w/ Lamar Jackson and my feelings about him as a person or player. 

    I'm the guy who started a thread 2 years ago about "if you build it, they will come" pleading for JD to build a team that would eventually attract Aaron Rodgers because at that time, I never thought a 26 year old Superstar Qb would actually become available. 

     

    Lamar Jackson contract demands are a "non starter"

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    16 minutes ago, jvill 51 said:

    Yeah reading the tea leaves going back to the many many reports that the rest of the owners were outraged at the Watson contract, it was all fairly obvious what’s going on here. Nice of Irsay to down a few morning cocktails and just come out and say it though.

    I do wonder what happens if Burrow (and to a lesser extent Herbert) demand a fully guaranteed deal exceeding the Watson contract. There’s no leaning on the “style of play” concerns in their cases.

    Honestly, if I'm Lamar.  I sit out until Burrow and Hurts get new deals, who wait for it...wait for it...both have missed games, have a bad injury history and are super risky due to their "style of play", especially Burrow who lives for getting hit and has things like this to say:

     

    "It's hard to say," Burrow said when asked what it felt like. "You start to ring a little bit. I've never had any lasting effects from a concussion. I've been hit and forgot the rest of the game before. That has happened a couple of times."

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    Lamar Jackson contract demands are a "non starter"

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    9 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

    Irsay always seems to be the one to let the cat out of the bag.

    "As an owner I do not believe in fully-guaranteed contracts. I think that a percentage is one thing, but from what I’ve seen from the NBA and baseball, I don’t see it as a positive competitively," Irsay said, according to the Athletic's Zak Keefer. 

    March 29, 2022, Steve Bisciotti:

    “I don’t know that he should’ve been the first guy to get a fully guaranteed contract. To me, that’s something that is groundbreaking, and it’ll make negotiations harder with others. But it doesn’t necessarily mean that we have to play that game, you know? We shall see.”

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    Lamar Jackson Requests Trade

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    1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

    As opposed to all the great Jets QBs of yore who could get the ball to TEs?  Oh, right.....

    Production is production dude.  Maybe Lamar Jackson would piss off Garrett Wilson.  Or perhaps he'd find him because the Ravens never had a WR as good as Wilson.  And at the same time perhaps he could help make Ruckert a star.

    Everything Pat Mahomes throws to Travis Kelce, doesnt count.

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