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jason423 last won the day on April 14 2012

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  1. I don't think anyone has much of a handle on JD at this time. We probably will get a better idea by the end of the season because there is little reason for the Jets to be less than a 7 win team if he is doing a good job. A few observations His biggest strength has been the way he has played his trades of veteran players. I'm not sure anyone has been more successful in pedaling away guys with no future in NY and getting a good return than Douglas. He falls into the group who places far too much emphasis on draft status for question mark players. This is why they have brought in these former 1st round underperformers. In that same light he puts a ton of emphasis on the draft grades they are giving individual players which has led to the trade ups. This is similar to the Maccagnan approach. He wont get fleeced on a trade up but is putting a lot of stock in "his board". He has had shortcomings in dealing with agents. There are times when he probably should not speak publicly about certain things as he has had a few fire back saying its a downright lie. That doesnt matter if you are a winning team but it costs you in free agency when you have a bad reputation. I believe his approach also runs in line with the last successful GM the team had (Tannenbaum) where he does work closer with the coach in selecting players. The negative on this is that I think they kind of abandoned 2021 because Saleh wasnt familiar enough with the roster so they tried to piece it together with a bunch of one year deals and very limited upside rookies. They were much more aggressive this year because I think the coach had far more input as to what he wanted for the team FWIW I dont think there is much merit to the "it takes 4 years to build a winner" takes. The Bills had a record amount of dead money while purging the team from a really bad run by their GM. They made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and twice with the version of Josh Allen that was closer to Mitch Trubisky than the guy who wears the Allen jersey now. Obviously it is all about finding the right QB but thus far the teams the Jets have put together have been poor in almost every facet of the game. That's not all on Maccagnan and Gase. Wilson was a disaster last season but there was little competency in any other aspect to hide just how bad the QB position was.
  2. Right now Moore and AVT look as if they are the only two building block long term types on the offense. Carter is fine but you dont build around a back and they are at this point more or less a dime a dozen. Becton is far too injury prone to be considered a sure thing. We should know by next year if Wilson has a chance or will just be another in a long line of Jets QB flops.
  3. I dont think it would happen even if there was a great prospect this year but they should. That goes for just about any team that doesnt have a sure QB under center. The main reason teams could not swap out from 1st round QBs in the past was because of the contracts. That doesnt exist but every GM in the NFL is convinced you cant have competition at the position until the QB proves he sucks at which point they just do something desperate to try to salvage a job.
  4. This is such nonsense that the other GMs "didnt have a plan' or try to rebuild. Did their plans work? No they did not. But to claim they had no plan is insulting. Idzik tore the team apart into a rebuild far more than Joe Douglas has. Idzik probably went too far and alienated people in the building and the fanbase. The job was just too big. Maccagnan's first year he did what ownership wanted and everyone was in love with him for it. He did attempt to rebuild as well first with Hackenberg and then with Darnold. His strategy was to build a team via defense in the draft and keep getting enough cap space every two years or so to make you think he was a cap mastermind and forget that the signings in free agency all stunk. Douglas is now trying to build with Wilson as a QB and rather than defense he is focusing more on offense in particular the O-line. His FA signings on the line have been poor. He traded up for AVT and has to hope that Becton will ever be healthy. Mims is a bust. Moore looks good. He's done a good job of trading away Mac players he did not want for draft picks including a great job of trading Adams. His FA run has not been good but they havent dipped their toe in the type of FAs that blew up for Maccagnan. Unless ownership demands otherwise I would guess they will just simply linger in the $5 to $10M a year range for FAs and keep spinning their own draft picks who bust for draft assets until they feel the QB is good which from the way they talk they think will be 2023. The team is on track for back to back number 2 picks in the draft. Thats not a sign that something is "clearly working" because if it was teams like the Lions and Jaguars would be perennial contenders. Doesnt mean it wont work but there is nothing to illustrate a team that is working the way the Bills were when they flipped their organization. But to pretend that the Jets fan base has never seen this is ridiculous. Anyone over the age of 10 has seen this here multiple times. The excuse meter out of the staff is off the charts. They havent played well. They are atrocious on defense. They have failed with a few QBs on offense. Just be straight and say that this hasnt been what they had hoped for and that they will expect changes next year. Dont just throw out comments about how "Josh Allen got it in year 3" and "look at the Cardinals in year 3".
  5. This is going to be rough for Douglas if Wilson struggles and the team continues to look inept this year. Realistically rookie struggles should be accepted but its just a weird spot because the team has been bad for so long. They have had no plan since 2013 and you cant expect everyone to be ok with "just wait until next year" when you have been hearing that for 8 of the last 9 years. At some point you have to put a product on the field that looks competent. He's probably not going to get the ultra kid gloves treatment that Maccagnan got as MM was pretty well liked by people who covered the team and those outside. Right now there is a lot of negativity towards the Jets operations around the league. Im not sure how specific it is to JD but hes the guy in charge so he is going to get the brunt of it. But its out there from agents, players, and other team personnel and when you have that its going to lead to more negativity on the GMs performance. I dont believe he will be fired after this year but I wouldnt discount it if things get loud enough by the end of the year if they dont turn this around somewhat. Woody will need to ask himself if they want to risk JD using multiple 1s and a ton of cap space next year. Screw that up and you just screw over the next GM too.
  6. Much like Pete I expect Harbaugh to get another shot at the NFL. I dont expect it in NY. He doens't have the personality or temperament to really succeed here. I feel like he would wind up being the head coach version of John Idzik.
  7. Obviously this isnt a good look for Manish and I know most of the beat writers dont care for him because of how he operates. Just a few things on the combine chasing and stuff. The Combine itself is a bit of a cesspool. The kind of behavior described is not uncommon there though many take it less further than whatever was described here. People just wait in lobbies to see who comes in. They walk the bars to see who to try to bump into. If they see you with someone who is known they want to know who you are. Its a tough business. The beat guys have it incredibly tough. That doesnt justify the behavior by any means but the relationships and news that used to go local never does anymore. The first place agents go and/or teams go is the first run national guys- Schefter and Rapoport primarily with a few of the other NFL Network guys also in the loop. Florio gets things if there is more of an angle to it. There is a lot of pressure from those guys to get that info first too so everyone follows suit. Its why the ass kissing for contracts, player potential, coaching jobs, is off the charts these days. Its not objective its just you scratch my back and Ill scratch yours. If you remember Favre in NY it was similar to that. The beat guys and local radio guys all got made into 2nd fiddle reporters by ESPN who had a relationship with Favre. This is also why when a beat guy gets it first the reports end up going out as reported by "Rapoport and Me" or "Cimini and Schefter". Thats not that much different than what happened here other than it sounds as if they didnt share a byline. That doesnt make it right but its why there is so much chasing and trying to get people to open up to them so they have a chance to climb a ladder that keeps getting taller and taller as everything consolidates. The Douglas stuff is pretty unacceptable. There is no need for finding a kid to basically let someone know that you are going to stalk them if they dont open up. The talk of a powwow with Gase to get on the same page well that is what it is. Reporters have favorites- Maccagnan was praised for years because he was good with people while Idzik wasnt because he took a relatively open organization and turned it into complete lockdown for two years. It was headed that way a bit the year before but Idzik was paranoid and clamped everything down. But the relationships now influence the stories from some (a majority really) way too much.
  8. While I hope this is true, generally you are reaching out about candidates next year not this one and normally that doesnt start for at least another month even when you know the coach is like Adam Gase. Hopefully Im wrong though and the Jets are taking a different approach.
  9. jason423

    The Good

    Maye was the only bright spot. That was as bad an opener as I can remember post Kotite. If Allen doesnt fumble a few away and miss an easy TD thats a 20 point loss.
  10. The 2010 team was probably the best team but Im not sure if they would have won the Super Bowl or not. They should have beaten the Steelers if not for the Pats game hangover. The 98 team would have destroyed the Falcons. Should have won in Denver. That game got away from them due to a handful of plays and the top 2 offensive players didnt have good games.
  11. I think these burner type accounts are pretty common. It pretty much harmless and if anything kind of funny. Id be stunned if there were not friends/family/etc... buddies of Maccagnan that did the same. There were so many people who would rush to his aid and most (not all) just vanished after he got fired. The stuff I would say about the Jets basically hasnt changed so its not like they were ultra Jets fans coming to the defense of the Jets. Just the Maccagnan Jets and they apparently lost their fandom after he was canned. Tons of team people have social media accounts under various names and the teams also monitor sites like this, twitter accounts like mine, and so on...Its just the evolution to go from the nameless, faceless, follow only egg to fake named defender of the job.
  12. My interest in the Jets is pretty much at an all time low. Some of that is just getting older and having other priorities but the last 8 or 9 years have just been a groundhogs day of awful. The coaching is terrible. The general talent level is terrible. The QB hasnt shown anything outstanding yet. About the only positive is that I hear nothing but good things about JD from people outside the team. But this has basically been a doormat of a franchise since 2012 and one of the worst in the NFL during that time
  13. That is how it would work. The Jets would basically carry him on the roster for all of 2020 and then release him at some point in 2021. Its exactly why Kam Chancellor stuck around on the Seahawks long after he was done, Alex Smith is still on the Redskins, etc...And yep a really bad deal.
  14. I think he played ok last night with far less bad throws than usual, but at the moment hes just a guy. He struggled with the blitz pickups which is on him and the staff. The Ravens blitz all the time and inexplicably they werent ready for that. Still when you start making the excuses that he needs all these pieces around him it just means you dont think he can win games for the team. This is the same drama that we went through with Sanchez. He needs a new coordinator. He needs better receivers. He needs a better pass catcher out of the backfield. Rex just cant coach offense and is holding him back. Sure the Jets have deficiencies on the o-line and the coach is no good but talent generally overcomes that. Hes not at that level yet. Maybe he gets there, maybe he doesnt. But I think most should be disappointed with where he and the team are in his second year.
  15. How does anyone watch Sam Darnold through two years and get a Brett Favre comparison? Maybe Eli Manning or Christian Ponder. Hes better than Sanchez and Geno, but right now hes just a guy out there. Makes some nice throws. Makes some bad ones. But hes not relying on his arm the way Cutler or Favre did and Mahomes does now thinking he can sneak something in and it doesnt get there. Typically they are just bad decisions,. Hopefully he gets better. The coaching staff is doing him no favors but right now there is nobody from the top of that draft class that stands out as a positive but only one (Rosen) that stands out as a negative. At the moment the most anyone can say about the other three is that maybe you can win with them, but nobody is to going to claim that you can win because of them and thats the type of QB you want.
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