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GW talking to Jamal on the sideline better be like this tonight:

Brady is our bitch tonight.

From a purely statistical persepctive? Right now it's Mayfield and it's not even close. More objectively, you'd have to say either of MIA's QBs, Dalton and Winston are in the cellar and Daniel Jones is getting there fast. I'm not sure I'd characterize Trubisky as the worst QB in the league, but he's definitely not living up to his draft status and the comparison to the 2 guys taken after him just have to feel like a nut-punch.

Typo. He's 19 for 20. BTW, am I the only one who finds his name a disturbing mash-up of horror film crazies?

I'm coming around to Michael Thomas as the top guy in a 2-horse race.

Just a random thought here: How would you like to be a Bears fan. They traded 2 3rd rounders and a 4th round pick to move up one spot to take Mitch Trubisky in 2017. They could have stood pat or even moved down a bit and taken either Mahomes or Watson. So instead of having a perennial all-star for their trouble, they probably have a guy just good enough to go 8-8 with that they might need to consider moving on from next year, all while wasting a very good defense that they burned 2 more 1st round picks on to improve for their 'run'. They have the 2nd least points scored in the NFC to go with the 2nd least points allowed. One different decision 2 1/2 years ago and they are probably super bowl contenders. They had 2 chances in 3 to get it right and they not only flubbed it, but they wasted draft picks in their certainty they were getting the right guy. I can relate to their pain but I am so happy to be looking at it from the outside for a change.

Pretty sure Jones will never take the Giants to any AFC championship games.

Just to set the record straight, Jones is 9 days older than Darnold.

Dolphins ground and pound a TD to take lead vs. BUF. Sort of enjoyed that.

Damn, I thought this was another music thread.

Jones is so good that he's having his sophomore slump in the 2nd quarter of his rookie season. You can't teach that!

Beachum, Carpenter, Johnson, Winters and Shell say hello.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present - Josh McCown: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV 2002 23 ARI 12 2 0 7 18 38.9 66 0 0.0 2 11.1 3 26 3.7 -1.3 9.4 33.0 10.2 5 50 0.70 -3.22 21.7 0 2003 24 ARI qb 12 8 3 1-2-0 95 166 57.2 1018 5 3.0 6 3.6 51 60 6.1 5.1 10.7 127.3 70.3 25 174 4.42 3.53 13.1 1 1 3 2004 25 ARI QB 12 14 13 6-7-0 233 408 57.1 2511 11 2.7 10 2.5 122 48 6.2 5.6 10.8 179.4 74.1 31 263 5.12 4.60 7.1 2 2 7 2005 26 ARI qb 12 9 6 3-3-0 163 270 60.4 1836 9 3.3 11 4.1 87 49 6.8 5.6 11.3 204.0 74.9 18 101 6.02 4.93 6.3 5 2006 27 DET 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2007 28 OAK QB 12 9 9 2-7-0 111 190 58.4 1151 10 5.3 11 5.8 56 46 6.1 4.5 10.4 127.9 69.4 35.2 14 92 5.19 3.75 6.9 1 2008 29 CAR 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 6.8 0 0 0 2009 30 CAR 12 1 0 1 6 16.7 2 0 0.0 0 0.0 2 0.3 0.3 2.0 2.0 39.6 1.8 1 6 -0.57 -0.57 14.3 0 2011 32 CHI qb 15 3 2 1-1-0 35 55 63.6 414 2 3.6 4 7.3 18 49 7.5 5.0 11.8 138.0 68.3 33.9 7 43 5.98 3.73 11.3 2 2012 33 CHI 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2013 34 CHI qb 12 8 5 3-2-0 149 224 66.5 1829 13 5.8 1 0.4 94 80 8.2 9.1 12.3 228.6 109.0 83.4 11 37 7.63 8.54 4.7 1 1 8 2014 35 TAM QB 12 11 11 1-10-0 184 327 56.3 2206 11 3.4 14 4.3 100 56 6.7 5.5 12.0 200.5 70.5 38.0 36 235 5.43 4.30 9.9 4 2015 36 CLE QB 13 8 8 1-7-0 186 292 63.7 2109 12 4.1 4 1.4 96 56 7.2 7.4 11.3 263.6 93.3 50.3 23 137 6.26 6.45 7.3 1 1 5 2016 37 CLE qb 13 5 3 0-3-0 90 165 54.5 1100 6 3.6 6 3.6 56 54 6.7 5.8 12.2 220.0 72.3 31.5 18 126 5.32 4.50 9.8 1 2017 38 NYJ QB 15 13 13 5-8-0 267 397 67.3 2926 18 4.5 9 2.3 137 69 7.4 7.3 11.0 225.1 94.5 60.0 39 264 6.11 6.00 8.9 1 2 9 2018 39 NYJ qb 15 4 3 0-3-0 60 110 54.5 539 1 0.9 4 3.6 27 41 4.9 3.4 9.0 134.8 55.8 29.3 7 35 4.31 2.94 6.0 2 2019 40 PHI 18 3 0 3 5 60.0 24 0 0.0 0 0.0 2 13 4.8 4.8 8.0 8.0 72.1 57.7 0 0 4.80 4.80 0.0

Yes. All true and great for BAL. But if he wasn't also passing well, he would just be Michael Vick 2.0. No future in that. Nobody has ever successfully been a top-10 passer and a top running threat for more than a season or two. RGIII looked like he would be that guy. Hoping Jackson avoids injury and keeps making things fun in the NFL (and hell for the Browns and Steelers).

Agreed about Sam. But let's not diminish Jackson's game to pump Sam up. And let's not put Jackson in the Michael Vick box either. Right now he's a very good passer. Definitely an exciting young QB to watch. What's frightening is that almost all of the really young QBs are in the AFC. Things could get pretty interesting over the next few years.