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  1. If it came down to it.....if Darren Sproles is franchise tag worthy, then Leon is franchise tag worthy.

    But really, one thing Tannenbaum has made sure of is that we don't lose anybody we really want to keep to Free Agency. Thomas, Cotchery, Rhodes have all been locked up either before or during their contract season. I'm not that concerned about it to be fully honest.

  2. Teams usually don't take care of extensions this time of year, they're too preoccupied with Free Agency and Draft Preparation. My guess is they'll sit Leon down after the draft and begin to work on a contract then. They'll leave enough in the budget enough to take care of him, no worries there.

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  3. Why are the Bucs & Lions frontrunners?

    The Lions are not giving up the 1st overall pic + why would the Broncos want the 1st overall with the $30+ million in guarantees the Broncos would have to pay (waaayyy more than they had for Cutler)?

    Also, what starting QB does the Bucs have to give the Broncos?

    So explain to me--why can the Bucs be one of the frontrunners while the Jets need a 3rd team to get involved?

    I don't quite understand that either....

    - Neither Tampa Bay or Detroit have a QB significantly more appealing then either Clemens or Ratliff to offer.

    - Unless Detroit is willing to offer, and Denver is willing to pay the #1 overall pick (Both highly unlikely), neither of them could offer a better draft pick then the Jets.

    My guess is their stance is them being willing to offer more (or better) in terms of quantity of picks then the Jets are, but they certainly didn't explain themselves well in that article.

  4. There's always some nagging Spring Injuries while guys work themselves into shape, which often turn into missing a week or two just to be overly cautious. I hate the sound of the word "Indefinately" with this one though, sounds like he'll be missing some of the regular season. Hope Castro and Cancel are up to the task.

  5. In the 2007 preseason Clemens' numbers were as follows:

    30-41 (73.2%), 364 yards, 8.9 YPA, 4 TD, 2 INT

    This means one of two things:

    1. You think Kellen Clemens is awesome and has just as good a chance of starting as Ratliff.

    2. In a rare moment of clarity, you suddenly realize that preseason numbers mean absolutely nothing, and we'll just have to wait until some actual games are played to see who the best QB truly is.

    Frankly, I don't have high hopes for either.

    +1. Really, nothing more needs to be said.

    But just for ****s and giggles, I will. Clemens also had a Rushing Touchdown.

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  6. I read that no part of Jones remaining contract is guaranteed dollars. We can cut him at any point moving forward with no cap penalty. And yeah, he never sees that 2010 money.

    He obviously knows that and wants a new deal becasue he's basically playing this year for us with no insurance policy.

    None of the money he is scheduled to make the next 2 years is guaranteed, but that doesn't mean there's no cap penalty for cutting him. There's still the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus remaining on his contract.

    We'd take a 3 million cap hit for cutting/trading him (Compared to his 2.5 million cap hit otherwise) this year. We'd actually be losing money against the salary cap by letting him walk right now.

    Next year, he counts 7.4 million against the cap, but we'd only take a 1.5 million cap hit for cutting/trading him, making for a potential 5.9 million in cap savings next offseason.

  7. I remember reading back in February that Rex Ryan is the type of guy who is not going to give a player an extension before either:

    A. Their former contract expires


    B. They have 1 year only remaining on the former contract

    So this could get interesting.

    All the more reason to see if he'll restructure for more money up front. Then it's not a new deal, no new money involved, so you're not being hypocritical, but are able to keep him happy.

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  8. If anything I think they should take half the money from 2010 and give it to him this year... it will make both years more fair for him and the team..

    My first post in this thread.

    As for his contract situation, nobody can sit here and tell me that him making 900K in Real Money next season is fair market value for him. I say quietly restructure his deal and give him a portion of that 2010 money next season before bridges get burned, but don't extend his deal, we really need TJ for next season.

    Why are we going back and forth if we agree?

  9. So because the JETS tossed him more $$$ up front they should now be punished?

    If by being punished you mean actually giving a vital part of the teams offense a fair salary for 2009, then yes.

    How will he not see his money next season?? I thought 6 million was a fair deal??? Will the JETS cut him at that amount???

    Assuming he doesn't show signs of decline in 2009, he would probably be worth about that amount. But that doesn't mean the Jets will continue to pay him that much. The Jets can save a pretty significant amount against the cap if they let him walk and it seems pretty logical that they will and look to replace him with more of a long-term solution at that point (Which will probably come cheaper via the draft).

  10. Jones was 28 and is living up to his 4 year 20 million contract... why should he get more now?

    Now he is 30 going on 31 and due to receive 8 million or so in the next 2 seasons... sounds fair to me...

    Not really, Jones is due to recieve 1 Million (100K of which he's foregoing by not living up to his workout clause) in REAL MONEY for the remainder of his contract, coming off a year where he led the AFC in Rushing.

    The 5.9 million which he is due for 2010 he'll never see with the way his contract is currently written.

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    Dude you gave examples of Turner (26 at the time) and Jackson (24 or 25 at the time)

    Find me a 30-31 year old R that got the money those young guys did...

    Thomas Jones was 28 years old when he signed that contract.

    Edgerrin James was 27 years old when he signed his 4 year / 30.5 million (7.625 million per) contract with the Cardinals. Granted, James hasn't lived up to that contract, whereas Jones has, but how is that really any different?

  12. The Titans are paying 3.2 million for all 3 of their top RB's combined this coming season... ALL OF THEM... lol

    You want to use extremes as examples... I can go all day...

    Except I wasn't citing extremes, like you are with rookie salary, I was citing fair market value contracts for NFL Runningbacks.

  13. 13M is not fair market value for two 1,000-yard seasons.

    It absolutely is....have you looked around the league lately?

    Michael Turner got 34.5 million (5.75 million/yr) with less then 300 carries rushing in his CAREER at the time. You're seriously trying to tell me that Thomas Jones, coming off of 2 straight thousand yard seasons, wasn't worth 6.5 million for the first 2 years of his new deal? Steven Jackson signed a deal last year worth for 44.805 million, or 7.46 million/yr.

    Saying Thomas Jones hasn't been worth 6.5 million a year might be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board, no offense.

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