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  1. I didn't completely hate Favre like some (Although he definitely cost us the season down the stretch), but he's done. You could tell during his talks with the media that he himself is unsure if he can still play football at a high level anymore, which is a huge difference from his "I can still play, I'm just not sure I want to" line from his last retirement.

    I just think after his antics the last couple years that some people aren't going to fully believe he's retired until it's Week 1 next season and he's still hunting in Mississippi.

    And even if all that somehow changes and he gets the itch to play again, he won't be a Jet anymore. We moved on, we signed other players with his salary cap space and I don't think we have enough flexibility in our cap to re-add his 13 million salary to the payroll on top of the other moves we would potentially want/need to do. We still have a whole draft class to sign.

  2. Edwards led the NFL in drops last year (16) and was 2nd in 2007 (12).

    The guy has all the tools to be dominant but lacks the focus.

    Tough to say but I don't think I'd give up our 1st for him.

    Not to play devils advocate too much, but do you think playing on a team that had little chance of competing might have had something to do with said lack of focus (Sorta like Randy Moss with the Raiders)? Nevermind, I would hope focus would improve as a player matures.....And unlike Terrell Owens he's never really been labeled a cancer. A bit of a primadonna maybe, but not a cancer.....

    I'd take a chance on him if the price was right, guys with his talent do not grow on trees.

  3. Cutler's future is wearing a Broncos uniform for the next 10 years, at least. It's just the reality of the situation....

    ....and I have a hard time getting excited about Byron Leftwich, who was practically out of the league until last year where he threw 36 decent passes and now people want him to start again.

    I really think we're going to be sticking with the competition, the only thing I can picture making us reconsider is if we have the chance to pick either Stafford or Sanchez at 17.

  4. Not really. Whats the DLine rotation you speak of? Are you going to put him at DE and bench Kenyon Coleman, or play them 50/50? If so, then I could agree with taking Brace at 52, but if he's only getting 10 snaps a game then there is no way he should be taken that high for the Jets. If we plan to use him 25 times a game, go for it.

    Someone like Kris Jenkins only ends up playing something like 65% of the Snaps, as lets face it, 360 pound men don't exactly have a ton of stamina built up in them. A player like Ron Brace would be getting a good 35% of the snaps at Nose Tackle, and yeah, you could probably find him another 10 snaps a game at DE if you so chose. There is enough playing time out there to justify such a move.

    Ideally, I'd hope to address it later then the 2nd round, but if they like Brace I'm fine with it.

  5. Ellis and Coleman are average at best primarily because you never get a full season out of either of them. Ellis is certainly a good player but he's always racking up these little injuries that sap his effectiveness. He plays hurt, mostly due to the fact that we never have any depth, but not well. Coleman just doesn't have the endurance. He started really well in 2007 and then vanished down the stretch. I had hoped at the time that it was due to his not having played a full season before, but then this year he faded even faster.

    Fortunately for us this is a real easy fix.


    Umm, Shaun Ellis has missed 4 games in his 9 year career here, and Coleman hasn't missed any as a Jet. Durability is far from a problem. Douglas would be okay, just would prefer my backup to have a little more upside personally.

  6. bothered by all these expensive free agaency aquisitions. Raining on the parade. Stick in the mud. I believe solid teams like the Pats and Steelers are built for the long haul by retaining solid players and not overpaying FA's.

    Like how over the years the Patriots have signed/traded for Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Adalius Thomas, Mike Vrabel, Rodney Harrison, ect. I could go back to the Super Bowl years and point out Corey Dillon, Ted Washington, ect. as well.

    Plenty of good teams have imported players from outside to fill needs, especially when they have a lot of extra salary cap space in their favor.

    The better question here, is since Mike Tannenbaum took over, who exactly have we lost that we wanted to keep? All of our Big FA's (Thomas, Cotchery, Rhodes) have been locked up before they reached the open market. Our spending has not prevented us from retaining our solid players.

    When I think of our lack of continuity in the coaching staff and player personnel, it's no wonder our seasons have been so erratic.
    Hence why the Jets might have done something like keeping the same Offensive Coordinator and Special Teams Coordinator, and while they are implementing a new defensive system, they have brought in 2 starters familiar with the system to help ease in the transition?

    Just think of how many Jets are playing well for other teams right now, as we pay through the nose for free agents, who should really be plugging holes instead of making up the bulk of the squad. Kareem McKenzie was a Jet, James Farrior, Derrick Ward (undrafted and dumped for free)
    Those were all under the previous regime(s), so I'm not sure how that's really relevant anymore. And for the record, Derrick Ward was a 7th rounder who was on our practice squad that they took. Perhaps we should have found a way to protect him, but we had Curtis Martin and LaMont Jordan at the time at that position, hardly the top of our priorities that year.

    Johnathan Vilma, John Abraham
    Traded, received great compensation for Abraham and pretty reasonable compensation for Vilma in a contract year with a degenerative knee condition.

    Chad Pennington (no compensation, bad outcome),
    Seriously? The guy had shown nothing since 2002 to think that he was anything better then an average run-of-the-mill QB. How many years did we need to give him?

    Pete Kendall...I could go on.
    Should have been able to work something out if not for Mangini's childish behavior (Putting him in Rookie dorms, Playing him with the Second Team, ect). Was traded for fair compensation, just didn't really have a back-up plan. But, I don't really fault Tannenbaum there. I blame Mangini for exacerbating the situation until he had to leave.

    Certainly not all players could have been kept--but a core should remain intact. An Identity. Now Baker's gone without replacement, Coles is gone without replacement, I dunno. I seriously hope this new CS is dedicated to drafting and developing young players. Otherwise we're just the Redskins II.
    We have a core, It's players like Rhodes, Revis, Harris, Pace, Jenkins, Ellis and now Scott on Defense. It's players like Faneca, Mangold, Ferguson, Cotchery, TJones, LWashington, and Keller on Offense.

    We have an identity now, it's the smashmouth aggressive defense and ball control offense.

  7. I love Britt, but most people have him a bit behind DHB, Nicks, and Harvin. Depending how the draft is going, I'd love to trade down a few spots and still get one of the receivers. Of course, that depends on how quickly they're flying off the draft board when it comes time for us to pick.

  8. Nothin out there worth spending on, bringing back Coles is the only thing that would interest me and I wouldn't give him more then 2 years. Probably gotta look draft to get what we need there. Good thing it's a real nice WR draft.

  9. I still like Gholston, I just think he was a bad mix with Eric Mangini's Defense, which tried to overload him on information. The NFL isn't always as complicated as Mangini makes it out to be though, someone like Gholston you point him in a direction and tell him to go hunt down a QB. Rex Ryan will understand that I think.

  10. It's a bit scary listening to the radio people act as if clemens is already the guy, but I'm sure a whole camp of 6'4" Rat vs. 6'2" Clemens with seperate the best.

    They KNOW Clemens, they don't know Ratliff. As lets face it, only the diehards watch the 2nd half of preseason games.

  11. This seems a little ridiculous to me. They're clearly building for the now and not for the future. So why stop just short with the absolute most important piece to your team?

    Disagree. Maybe last offseason they were building to win now, but this offseason (so far) they're thinking more long-term, which also comes with a new regime in town.

    They resisted the urge to bring in Ray Lewis, and opted for the younger Bart Scott instead. They brought in Lito Sheppard (28), Jim Leonhard (26), re-signed Brandon Moore (29). They let Laveranues Coles walk instead of signing him to an extension.

    This Offseason spending spree has been geared towards players where the best could be yet to come and/or players with plenty of years of potentially playing at a high level left in them. A different formula then last offseason with players like Faneca, Woody, and especially Favre.

  12. Are you kidding? This is a pretty big loss... not easy to fill his shoes...

    Of course the level of play dropped off... no **** sherlock... Jenkins is a beast... when Mosley came in for Drob the level of play went up...

    ANYBODY the JETS sign will be a drop off from Jenkins... thats a given...

    Well, obviously anybody would be a step down from Jenkins....(Just like anybody would have been an upgrade over D-Rob)....almost no NT's bring that kind of push consistently. But they need a better backup at NT, that much should be indisputable. When Jenkins left the game, teams ran on the Jets with ease. They need someone who can at the very least shut down the run on those plays Jenkins is out.

    Best thing the Jets could do for their defense IMO is invest in someone like Ron Brace to backup Jenk. Of course, 2nd round is a little earlier then I was hoping to spend the pick for, but the Ravens D invested a 1st rounder in Haloti Ngata with seemingly no need at the time and that worked out great. You can give him some snaps at DE as well.

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