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  1. 10 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

    No he does have a point.

    Far more of the scrutiny has been directed at Saleh, LaFleur and even Wilson despite all three of them being a product of Joe Douglas and have having only had 7 games.

    Joe Douglas has had 39 and even if you want to discount year one like a coward then his record is still 3-20 since. That’s abysmal by and measure and it’s showing no signs of improvement despite the resources he’s had in the draft and FA.

    He’s the one who should be under the most pressure, he should probably be out already tbh and a franchise with standards and ambition would have probably pulled the trigger.

    His recruitment has been objectively terrible and some can’t wait to give him 5 more Top 100 picks in 2022. It boggles the mind where the loyalty towards a guy whose only experience is failure. 

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  2. Just now, jgb said:

    So... why are you bothered by Jets, exactly?

    If you had hope this season, that's on you.

    My Rangers, my Yankees, and my Jets all announced rebuilds right around 2016.

    The Yankees didn't actually rebuild.  They had a one year no-playoff blip and returned to dominance immediately.  They simultaneously developed a new core in the minors while showing the old core out the door in the majors.

    The Rangers rebuilt for real.  Ran the script perfectly.  Combination of shedding old players, drafting very well, and doing an exceptional job with trades and free agency.  They look to be set for a 5+ year Cup run.

    The Jets did the opposite of what the Yankees and Rangers did.  They failed with 2 rebuilds after announcing the first rebuild, maybe its 3 rebuilds, I lose count.  The Jets are clearly worse than they were in 2017 and there is no hope that the current regime gets it done, we're going to have to wait another year for the next HC and GM to try yet again.

    I did not have 'hope' for this year's Jets season.  I expected growth from our 2nd and 3rd year players and flashes from our 1st year players.  I expected a head coach to change the culture.  The Yankees changed the manager.  The Rangers changed the head coach and the GM.  You could feel the energy change.  The Jets make changes and nothing changes.

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  3. 45 minutes ago, jgb said:

    What a terrible way to look at sports. "If my team doesn't win it all, the season was a failure." 

    That's not how I look at it, but it depends on context.

    My Rangers didn't make the playoffs last season but as a rebuild I was very pleased with our goaltending, our scoring, and our budding young stars.  It was a satisfying year.

    My Yankees didn't get through the wildcard last season and as a team with a solid core, several superstars, and a high payroll I was very unhappy.  It was a terrible year.

    My Yankees made the playoffs 6 times in the last 7 years and I suffered crushing postseason losses, made me feel like crap.  My Rangers don't make the playoffs but they make me feel better than the Yankees.  The difference is the promise of hope for an ascending hockey team vs. the frustration of a mature baseball team.  That's what Saints fans felt.  That's what Jets fans didn't.

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  4. 49 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    Great decades are always followed by a suck decade?  Has anyone informed the Patriots, Steelers and Ravens of this?

    Generational quarterbacks and head coaches can win Super Bowls (Belichick, Brady) and can make the playoffs (Tomlin, Roethlisberger, Harbaugh).  That ain't us.  We're in the soup with the other 29 teams that don't have such luxuries.

    You are smarter than this.  I thought.

    SAR I

  5. 8 minutes ago, Smashmouth said:

    100% wrong Sar this team needs a QB and stability, we have plenty of Talent a load of money and a load of draft picks.

    Sorry, Smash, but that's wishful thinking.

    It's not just a quarterback problem.  Joe Douglas tore us down to nothing, collected draft capital, compiled cap dollars, promised that he's turn us into champions, and has completely blown it all.  Two consecutive awful drafts, two consecutive awful free agency periods, we are an expansion team without the benefit of an expansion draft.

    If out of 22 starters you need, what, 10 that are in the 'very good to exceptional' category in order to consistently make the playoffs, I count 0 on the roster currently. 

    A team like the Cowboys are acclaimed as to have nailed the last 4 drafts and are a team that FA's want to play for and have a franchise quarterback and they have won 1 division title and 1 playoff game in the last 6 years.  And they didn't start at ground zero like we are.  They were already a .500 team before they started hitting draft home runs.

    We are dead.

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  6. In most cases it's not a matter of time, it's a matter of effort.

    You can tell that guys who get mysterious injuries and miss a lot of practice time in training camp are going to bust.  And it happens to us a lot.

    There is a really good Tom Brady interview on a podcast released yesterday, he explained that the NFL is full of guys who are just happy to have their first contract or just content to be on the practice squad.  They don't actually want to be successful NFL players or win a championship.  They feel like getting to the NFL is the reward for a childhood of sacrifice.  They buy their mom a house and pack it in.  Joe Douglas loves these types.

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  7. 29 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

    So Douglas and the Johnsons listen to the fan base in making key personnel decisions? 😂🤣

    Our owner listens to fans.  Douglas listens to idiots in his scouting department.  

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  8. 9 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

    If Gase and Sanchez were truly this good, their post Jets careers would demonstrate how the Jets made a mistake.

    Ah, I get it.  That makes sense.  So because Rex Ryan was such a bad head coach in Buffalo that means he must have sucked here, right?

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  9. 4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    I’ve chosen to not bring back Gase but, since you’re so insistent, I might tell Woody to have a halftime dedication ceremony and retire his name next to Weeb’s. 

    Apologize for what you’ve done.  You’ve set us back years.  Gase and Maccagnan were better than this.  You were wrong. 

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  10. 5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    It’s true, everyone.  I control Woody Johnson. 

    If it weren’t for me, we could’ve still had Adam Gase and Mark Sanchez and had a Patriots-like dynasty 

    Adam Gase and Mark Sanchez were better than their replacements.  We've been searching for someone better than Sanchez for 8 years and we'll be stuck with Gase's replacement for at least 2.

    You, the ignorant Jets Illuminati, do indeed control Woody Johnson.  And when he gives in and tries to please you, you call him the idiot.  Find a mirror.

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  11. 12 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

    I thought it was worse…..  

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    It was actually better.

    From 2000 to 2011 with a healthy quarterback, the Jets had 9 non-losing seasons, 8 winning seasons, and averaged 10 wins per year.  We were in the playoff conversation for a decade.  We didn't win it all, but we actually had a golden age, we had a great decade.

    And like every NFL franchise that has a great decade, it is followed by a suck decade.  Go look at your NFL history.  Go look at the Cowboys, go look at the Giants, the Broncos, the 49ers.  It took the Bills 30 years to get back.  The Dolphins are 30 years and counting, no closer than since Marino left. 

    It's the price you pay for being in the playoff conversation for 10+ years.  You have to go to the back of the line when its over.  Woody Johnson delivered a great decade.  The Jets were one of the elite AFC franchises despite the Patriots dynasty.  Jets Illuminati didn't recognize it back then.  Perhaps here in the depths of hell, they'll see it now.

    SAR I

  12. 12 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    You’re always entertaining.  

    I'm always right.  You're always wrong.

    Tell me again how 2019 and 7 wins with a roster built by the awful Mike Maccagnan was meaningless when 2021 is headed to 2 wins against a schedule that is just as easy and a roster hand-crafted by Joe Douglas.

    "We can replace Mark Sanchez easily!"

    "Mike Maccagnan sucks!"

    "Adam Gase is the worst!"

    Still waiting.  Still waiting for the QB better than Sanchez (8 years), looks like Douglas and Saleh are going to waste 2 seasons or more.  You Jets Illuminati are the reason for the problem we have right now.  Your big mouths and horrible misreads made our owner move in the wrong direction and make us worse.  Congratulations.

    SAR I

  13. Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said:

    Yeah,  I rather watch the Pats hang 50 on us and be eliminated from the playoffs before November.  

    Ask a Saints fan what it's been like to have a Hall of Fame HC and QB and not go near the Super Bowl for the last 12 seasons and now head to the abyss.  Ask a Dolphins fan with Marino, ask a Packers fan with Rodgers.  

    The closer you get to the prize, the bigger the pain when you lose.  In the end, we all lose.  Jets fans are grumpy in October.  Bills fans will be jumping off buildings in February.  

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  14. 1 hour ago, Dcat said:

    Woody Johnson has given you a defective, inferior product year after year.  He's a greedy piece of  sh*t who has no regard for the fans. None. 

    He, like 20 other NFL owners, can't get the GM right.  It sucks, it keeps me up at night, but we can't blame him.  Every GM candidate came from the pool of up and comers that other teams were talking to. 

    Other than that, he's been fair to the fans, kept our ticket prices low, built us a new stadium, and has been anything but cheap when it comes to front office salaries and player salaries.  Am I happy?  No.  But is it Woody Johnson's fault?  No.  

    SAR I

  15. 1 hour ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

    We’ll all be dead before that happens!

    I wonder if we really have it that bad.

    Look at the fans of the New Orleans Saints.  Sean Payton and Drew Brees for 15 years. They had a decade and a half of brutal playoff eliminations, heartbreaking years where they didn't make the playoffs, crushing defeats over and over again.  They have a 9-9 playoff record.   They managed one measly Lombardi.  Look at the Packers with Aaron Rodgers, same thing.  

    As a fan, I don't know that sucking and winning just a few games with the hope of a bright future isn't better than being a good team with a HOF quarterback winning a lot of games but with 14 years of horrific January eliminations.

    SAR I

  16. 1 hour ago, Trotter said:

    The psl backlash got you, me and others a seat in the stadium. Not woody specifically. What woody has given us is 8 garbage years out of 11in the new house. I see at least 2-3 more garbage years the way it is looking right now

    Woody Johnson hires GM's and HC's no differently than any other owner.  These supposed "great" franchises run "the right way" like the Giants only get it right once in a lifetime too.  He needs to go after experienced GM's and experienced HC's and stop with the rookies.  That's the only legitimate beef you can have with the man.

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  17. 1 hour ago, nj meadowlands said:

    You are such a rich guy fart sniffer it's unbelievable. 

    Woody Johnson is the Abraham Lincoln of the 1980's Giants Stadium waitlister.  

    I thank him every day.  He has been very good to me personally, I respect his business acumen, and I know his heart is in this team's success.  We are in good hands with Woody Johnson.  It's our General Managers that are the problem.

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  18. 20 minutes ago, Averagejetsfan1421 said:

    I dont understand how so many people are wishing for JD's head! If you had high expectations for this season then that's your fault, this teams been a dumpster fire and we all know its going to take some work to change the culture and put your own people in place. Why do people think that can happen in 1 or 2 offseaons,? Look around the nfl, there are a crap ton of 1-6 2-5 teams.  R E L A X 

    Joe Douglas has been here since 2019 and has consistently made us worse, not better.

    With a roster that is 100% his doing, he is going to end the year with a personal record of 3-30.

    He will have been paid $9M dollars to do this to us. 

    He's without question the worst GM in the history of the New York Jets.

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  19. 50 minutes ago, BP said:

    This is New Jersey dude, not New York. No mandates here like NY,

    Customarily, millions of tourists come to New York City in the Fall.  Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty, Central Park, Museum of Natural History.  Many of them plan their visit around their favorite football team playing the Jets or Giants.  That's why our stadium is so big.  This has nothing to do with politics or mandates.  Fewer people are getting on planes and coming to sightsee in NYC.  Ergo, fewer visiting fans in our building.

    52 minutes ago, BP said:

    so your whole premise on that is garbage.

    No need for potty mouth.  

    53 minutes ago, BP said:

    I saw home games at Gillette and arrowhead and those stadiums seem full. Do you have an actual example on ALL attendance is down?

    I see empty seats on TV.  I read about emails sent to several teams asking them what their strategies are to get fans in the seats.

    I have no idea why you are going down this road.  Woody Johnson made $3.3 billion dollars on his Jets investment.  You can't criticize the man as a visionary.

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  20. Just now, BP said:

    The stadium is empty, the product is garbage. And now you have season ticket holders unable to unload their tickets at half price after this great start.

    You’re like the psl lover in the plastic bubble. You’re in an echo chamber of woody love ❤️ 

    All NFL stadiums are looking rather 'empty' here in the post-pandemic era, and New York gets hit extra hard seeing that tourism is down significantly.  It'll bounce back.

    You are like the Joe Douglas Lover in the Plastic Bubble.  It's amazing.  Out of the left side of your mouth you talk about how the rebuild was necessary and Douglas is amazing and losing is part of the process and out of the right side of your mouth you talk about how the man who hired him is horrible and lower attendance is shameful.  You're a hypocrite of the first order.  Hard to do.  Congrats.

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