SoFlaJets Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Have you missed something? Ducasse IS NOT the starting RT. Hunter is. That's why they resigned him in a multi-year deal. I'm starting to think that this guy 51 doesn't understand the game of football SMC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 We are missing a link, look what you just wrote. Ducasse better grow up real quick, We need a RT that can play in the NFL day in and out, all year. He wrote that we have our starters. You are contending that we need a starter. Where? We have a RT in Hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Have you missed something? Ducasse IS NOT the starting RT. Hunter is. That's why they resigned him in a multi-year deal. Wayne Hunter in his 8th year? He was signed for his multiple OL position play, we will see how he plays out, but they need someone to step up (like Ducasse) and gel with the OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 I was told 8 weeks was the healing time but I am not sure how that equates to actual football time. I will try to find out... Manish tweet: I've been told that Rob Turner's is projected to be out 8-10 weeks. #Jets o-line depth takes a real hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Wayne Hunter in his 8th year? He was signed for his multiple OL position play, we will see how he plays out, but they need someone to step up (like Ducasse) and gel with the OL. Hunter STARTED all 3 playoff games at RT and is a solid starter. The issue is that the Jets want Ducasse to be a top-shelf starter. The problem is, he doesn't look like an NFL player right now, let alone even approacing being a solid starter. The Jets have absolutely no issue with their starting 5. Plus, there is not a single player available that will upgrade any of the 5 starter position. Thus, I don't really see your point. Jets need to sign a backup because their starters are set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Wayne Hunter in his 8th year? He was signed for his multiple OL position play, we will see how he plays out, but they need someone to step up (like Ducasse) and gel with the OL. 1) Rex already said in a press conference that Hunter would be the starter... so he was signed to be a starter. 2) After Woody went down last year with the Achilles, Hunter was the starter down the stretch for us in the playoffs for us and played well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Manish tweet: I've been told that Rob Turner's is projected to be out 8-10 weeks. #Jets o-line depth takes a real hit Your so concerned about depth, it's extremely important at some positions. But you wouldn't be so concerned if the position was not being played by career backups to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Your so concerned about depth, it's extremely important at some positions. But you wouldn't be so concerned if the position was not being played by career backups to begin with. holy crap-and I say this with all due respect because I don't know you but you really haven't been watching the game of football or following the Jets for too long have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 holy crap-and I say this with all due respect because I don't know you but you really haven't been watching the game of football or following the Jets for too long have you? Maybe someone can explain it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Maybe someone can explain it to you. or visa versa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'm sure I'm not the only one who always confuses Turner and Hunter. Anyways, sign Stinchcomb, get it done Tanny! Turner's the white backup with the broken leg. Hunter's the black starter with... the not broken leg. Glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Knew the second I saw it something was broken. Sucks, really. He's a good depth player. Ducasse can never see the field. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingrock49 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Per the NY Daily news. Its not the season so thats not bad and assuming he will have surgery soon maybe he can come back by Oct? Still should sign O'Hara in the meantime. And another backup tackle cause Vlad scares me. http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2011/08/source-offensive-lineman-rob-turner-breaks-leg-will-miss-8-10-weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Good news. He'll be back before the bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Why not bring back Woody? IIRC he can back up center as well This would seem to be the simple solution except for a few serious problems. Woody wasn't exactly a gym rat, and probably weights about 420 right now. If he were to come back he made it clear when the Jets made him a minimum vets offer before he retired, that he won't come back unless he is the starter, and paid like one. Not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Manish tweet: I've been told that Rob Turner's is projected to be out 8-10 weeks. #Jets o-line depth takes a real hit There you go. The fact that it's the first week of preseason that it happened is in a weird way a blessing in disguise, as 8 weeks from now is only early/mid October. They can't throw him on the PUP now, right? He has to be on from the start of camp? Either way, I'd say give him the month and see how it goes, no reason to rush to IR him if there's a chance he can contribute after just a few weeks into the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I dont know about all this... yes hes technically going to be healed in 8 weeks... then he's gotta get back into football shape... it might wash out his whole year. Start him out on PUP i guess and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Time to start scouring the waiver wire or free agent list. Damien Woody can you hear me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I thought for sure it was a season-ender when I saw it. I guess this is glass-half-full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 This would seem to be the simple solution except for a few serious problems. Woody wasn't exactly a gym rat, and probably weights about 420 right now. If he were to come back he made it clear when the Jets made him a minimum vets offer before he retired, that he won't come back unless he is the starter, and paid like one. Not going to happen. Actually, Big Wood looks good, just saw him the other day(neighbor). Here is a video from the holdout. His injury is tough to recover from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 This would seem to be the simple solution except for a few serious problems. Woody wasn't exactly a gym rat, and probably weights about 420 right now. If he were to come back he made it clear when the Jets made him a minimum vets offer before he retired, that he won't come back unless he is the starter, and paid like one. Not going to happen. last night on Twitter Jets fans were begging him to come back after seeing Ducasse almost get both QBs killed and he tweeted back; "I'm retired" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I dont know about all this... yes hes technically going to be healed in 8 weeks... then he's gotta get back into football shape... it might wash out his whole year. Start him out on PUP i guess and see what happens. I was originally thinking the same, but doesn't a player need to be on PUP from the start of camp? If not, PUP is definitely the way to go. Either way I certainly wouldn't rush him onto IR. Worst case scenario give him the month and see what his timeline is looking like and make a decision then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Better get someone in here quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 A big man with an injury like that worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Better get someone in here quick. beat writers are saying "by tomorrow" they will start-I'm sure they've been on the phones all morning already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 There you go. The fact that it's the first week of preseason that it happened is in a weird way a blessing in disguise, as 8 weeks from now is only early/mid October. They can't throw him on the PUP now, right? He has to be on from the start of camp? Either way, I'd say give him the month and see how it goes, no reason to rush to IR him if there's a chance he can contribute after just a few weeks into the season. A full 10 weeks means he only misses 6 games. Since the Jets' 7th game (10/23 against Chargers) is right before the bye, they could hold him out that week and have him come back after the bye. In other words, I don't think there's anyway they IR for the full season unless they think he can't heal properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 A full 10 weeks means he only misses 6 games. Since the Jets' 7th game (10/23 against Chargers) is right before the bye, they could hold him out that week and have him come back after the bye. In other words, I don't think there's anyway they IR for the full season unless they think he can't heal properly. Yep, thats good news. This hurts, no doubt, but he's not a starter and what he's asked to do typically, I actually think Vlad can do. They love bringing him in to be the road grading TE almost. I think Vlad can probably run block just fine in a situation like that...just dont ask him to pass protect. Either way, I'd expect who ever they bring in, to be able to fill in for what Turner does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 beat writers are saying "by tomorrow" they will start-I'm sure they've been on the phones all morning already Good of not I was gonna call Rex and Tanne myself Can The Crusher play the OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The kid looked good in the time he was on the field. I hope Rex wants to see what he can do against 1st or 2nd defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I expect the jets to be heavy in the "final cuts" market for 2 o-lineman, a TE and 2 olb's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I honestly think Vlad is as dumb as a bag of hammers. It shows in his play. Anyone else notice that when he gets beat and allows a hit to the QB he quickly runs over to pickup the other guy that he wasnt assigned to like he wasnt even blocking the guy that kicked his a$$ in the first place? lol I've seen him do that last year and again last night. Yeah Vlad it wasnt you that got beat you were blocking the NT from your RT position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 A big man with an injury like that worries me. i'm happy turner still has a chance to help us at some point this season.. it still sucks but clearly it could have been worse.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 With Ducasse still a question mark, and Turner out for an extended period of time, the Jets could look to bring in outside help along the line. Shaun O’Hara, the longtime Giants center, is one possible option, though the Jets had not reached out to him as of today, a person informed of the situation said. That person requested anonymity because the team has not commented on its interest level. O’Hara, 34, could be looking for a starting job, though, rather than a backup position. Other available players for depth at center and guard are former Giants guard Rich Seubert, former Raiders and Panthers guard/center Chris Morris and former Cardinals and Cowboys guard Leonard Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 With Ducasse still a question mark, and Turner out for an extended period of time, the Jets could look to bring in outside help along the line. Shaun O’Hara, the longtime Giants center, is one possible option, though the Jets had not reached out to him as of today, a person informed of the situation said. That person requested anonymity because the team has not commented on its interest level. O’Hara, 34, could be looking for a starting job, though, rather than a backup position. Other available players for depth at center and guard are former Giants guard Rich Seubert, former Raiders and Panthers guard/center Chris Morris and former Cardinals and Cowboys guard Leonard Davis. I am expecting some announcement today VJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 TheJetsStream Manish Mehta I've been told, as of now, former #NYG offensive lineman Rich Seubert isn't option for #Jets. RG still recovering from leg/knee injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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