visajets Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/08/rex_ryan_says_he_was_fair_to_f.html Rex Ryan says he was fair to former Jets first-round pick Vernon Gholston Published: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 1:01 PM Updated: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 1:22 PM By Jenny Vrentas/The Star-Ledger The Star-Ledger Follow 2 Share close Google Buzz Digg Stumble Upon Fark Reddit Share Email Print Ed Murray/The Star-LedgerRex Ryan said he's confused by Vernon Gholston's recent comments. Rex Ryan disagreed with Vernon Gholston's recent comments, in which the former Jets first-round pick said he wasn't given a fair chance with the Jets. Gholston, drafted No. 6 overall in 2008, was cut by the Jets this past winter. Now with Chicago, the defensive end told reporters after last night's Giants-Bears game that "being a first-round pick, you would have hoped for more" of a chance, via the New York Post. "I'm confused because I think I'm fair, I think I'm more than fair," Ryan said in response today. "I think I give plenty of opportunities. But if I wasn’t viewed that way, then that’s it, but again I'm comfortable being who I am." Gholston, who has not recorded a sack in three professional seasons, said he felt that Ryan pre-judged him, and that the Jets coach favored his players who came up from Baltimore. "That could be accurate that I prejudged him," Ryan said. "But trust me, when I came here, I was his coach, he was one of us, and I became a Jet. Obviously, I evaluated Vernon when he came out of college; I wasn’t as high on him as maybe others were. But when I got here, we were all in. I wanted Vernon to be successful; I'd still like him to be successful. I think he's a good kid. I don’t care what he said about me, that’s fine, but I think hes a fine young man and I wish him well." Ryan tried several tactics to maximize Gholston's potential last season, switching him from outside linebacker to defensive end and publicly raving about how good he looked in training camp last year. He even had a teammate instigate a fight with Gholston to bring out toughness. "My job is not to just make one player better and feature one player," he said. "I thought my job was to build the best defense we can possibly build. When you look statistically if we were successful or not, it's hard to argue we weren’t successful building this defense for the betterment of the New York Jets, not just one player. "Now, could there have been better defenses called to make Vernon a better player, to make him look like a better player? I'm sure there is. But for us, my concern is to make the New York Jets a better defense, not just one player." In Ryan's book, released this spring, he didn't offer a favorable review of Gholston, saying he didn't like him coming out of college. He also said "he's a good athlete and a smart guy, but I thought he was a phony." Gholston said moving on to another team was "a needed move." "I would have liked to have Vernon back because I thought he was getting better, I really did," Ryan said. "Do I think he's ever going to be Deacon Jones? No. But I'm pretty comfortable in myself. Nobody likes to hear negative comments or whatever, but if that’s how he feels, then that’s how he feels. I'm perfectly comfortable with myself. If there's a problem somebody has or whatever, I'm not going to please everybody. That's not the position I'm in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 This has nothing to do with the NYJETS. Gholston is a Bear now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 This has nothing to do with the NYJETS. Gholston is a Bear now. The article is about Rex Ryans comments on what Vernon Gholston said. The last time I checked Rex Ryan was the head coach of the NYJETS. Try again EPIC FAIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/08/rex_ryan_says_he_was_fair_to_f.html Rex Ryan says he was fair to former Jets first-round pick Vernon Gholston Published: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 1:01 PM Updated: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 1:22 PM By Jenny Vrentas/The Star-Ledger The Star-Ledger Follow 2 Share close Google Buzz Digg Stumble Upon Fark Reddit Share Email Print Ed Murray/The Star-LedgerRex Ryan said he's confused by Vernon Gholston's recent comments. Rex Ryan disagreed with Vernon Gholston's recent comments, in which the former Jets first-round pick said he wasn't given a fair chance with the Jets. Gholston, drafted No. 6 overall in 2008, was cut by the Jets this past winter. Now with Chicago, the defensive end told reporters after last night's Giants-Bears game that "being a first-round pick, you would have hoped for more" of a chance, via the New York Post. "I'm confused because I think I'm fair, I think I'm more than fair," Ryan said in response today. "I think I give plenty of opportunities. But if I wasn’t viewed that way, then that’s it, but again I'm comfortable being who I am." Gholston, who has not recorded a sack in three professional seasons, said he felt that Ryan pre-judged him, and that the Jets coach favored his players who came up from Baltimore. "That could be accurate that I prejudged him," Ryan said. "But trust me, when I came here, I was his coach, he was one of us, and I became a Jet. Obviously, I evaluated Vernon when he came out of college; I wasn’t as high on him as maybe others were. But when I got here, we were all in. I wanted Vernon to be successful; I'd still like him to be successful. I think he's a good kid. I don’t care what he said about me, that’s fine, but I think hes a fine young man and I wish him well." Ryan tried several tactics to maximize Gholston's potential last season, switching him from outside linebacker to defensive end and publicly raving about how good he looked in training camp last year. He even had a teammate instigate a fight with Gholston to bring out toughness. "My job is not to just make one player better and feature one player," he said. "I thought my job was to build the best defense we can possibly build. When you look statistically if we were successful or not, it's hard to argue we weren’t successful building this defense for the betterment of the New York Jets, not just one player. "Now, could there have been better defenses called to make Vernon a better player, to make him look like a better player? I'm sure there is. But for us, my concern is to make the New York Jets a better defense, not just one player." In Ryan's book, released this spring, he didn't offer a favorable review of Gholston, saying he didn't like him coming out of college. He also said "he's a good athlete and a smart guy, but I thought he was a phony." Gholston said moving on to another team was "a needed move." "I would have liked to have Vernon back because I thought he was getting better, I really did," Ryan said. "Do I think he's ever going to be Deacon Jones? No. But I'm pretty comfortable in myself. Nobody likes to hear negative comments or whatever, but if that’s how he feels, then that’s how he feels. I'm perfectly comfortable with myself. If there's a problem somebody has or whatever, I'm not going to please everybody. That's not the position I'm in." Ryan is a very nice man. Otherwise the last sentence of his comments would rightly be "Vernon Gholston sucked donkey balls at NFL football." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 The article is about Rex Ryans comments on what Vernon Gholston said. The last time I checked Rex Ryan was the head coach of the NYJETS. Try again EPIC FAIL Epic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 The article is about Rex Ryans comments on what Vernon Gholston said. The last time I checked Rex Ryan was the head coach of the NYJETS. Try again EPIC FAIL No one cares about former players of the NYJETS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 This has nothing to do with the NYJETS. Gholston is a Bear now. He won't be for long. I think he's out of the league within 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 This is clearly about the gay thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 No one cares about former players of the NYJETS. The article is what Rex Ryan has to say about the comments Gholston made about him. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Next time just post the link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 How is Gholston doing this preseason? I've been trying to get some info/highlights on him but I cant find it. Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 How is Gholston doing this preseason? I've been trying to get some info/highlights on him but I cant find it. Does anyone know? As good as Jetsfan80 is doing arguing this thread doesent belong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 How is Gholston doing this preseason? I've been trying to get some info/highlights on him but I cant find it. Does anyone know? There's a reason you cant get any info/highlights on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 There's a reason you cant get any info/highlights on him. lol. Good one. I guess I was hoping that he shows some production. I really dont want the Jets to have the biggest bust in NFL history. I mean sh*t, even ryan leaf threw a TD. I guess Im waiting for Gholston to have a 3 sack 15 tackle season so I can say hey, he's produced! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 lol. Good one. I guess I was hoping that he shows some production. I really dont want the Jets to have the biggest bust in NFL history. I mean sh*t, even ryan leaf threw a TD. I guess Im waiting for Gholston to have a 3 sack 15 tackle season so I can say hey, he's produced! lol. That'll happen when Aqua4ever realizes his Dolphins are worse than the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 That'll happen when Aqua4ever realizes his Dolphins are worse than the Jets. Then Gholston might as well retire now and save himself the embarrassment lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Tanny can not get them all right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 That'll happen when Aqua4ever realizes his Dolphins are worse than the Jets. But they won the 2008 AFC Eastern Division Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 But they won the 2008 AFC Eastern Division Championship! And all it took was injuries to the starting QBs of two division rivals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I have some inside info on Vernone he almost got a sack in practice 3 weeks ago . That is all, move along. I find it comical this guy would have any complaints at all, he was the 6th freakin pick in the draft and got every chance to succeed it just turned out he was the worst NFL player Ive ever seen. Maybin who has been here one week has already accomplished as much as Vernone with one sack and forced fumble in a preseason game. Actully it was more Im not sure Vernone ever forced a fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I have some inside info on Vernone he almost got a sack in practice 3 weeks ago . That is all, move along. I find it comical this guy would have any complaints at all, he was the 6th freakin pick in the draft and got every chance to succeed it just turned out he was the worst NFL player Ive ever seen. Maybin who has been here one week has already accomplished as much as Vernone with one sack and forced fumble in a preseason game. Actully it was more Im not sure Vernone ever forced a fumble. If I was an UDFA I would probably punch Gholston in the mouth after listening to his nonsense. UDFA are fighting just to get any playing time. Gholston makes it seem like he wasn't given any chance considering where he was drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Saskatchewan Defensive End Gholston Says Lovie Smith, Bears didn't give him a fair shot September 13, 2011 Vernon Gholston, the former first-round pick whose career was a bust before the Bears released him during the offseason, slammed Bears coach Lovie Smith on Monday, saying the coach and the Bears organization didn't give him a fair chance. The Chicago Sun Times reported that the former Ohio State Buckeye -- who had zero sacks in 42 games in his Jets career -- made the comments after his new team, the Saskatchewan Roughriders, lost a game to the Toronto Argonauts. "I heard how he was perceiving me before the [2008] draft, before he knew me, and I was the same way" said Gholston, who was picked sixth overall in the 2008 NFL Draft when Eric Mangini was still coaching the Jets. Said Smith: "We felt we might be able to get something out of Gholston in our system. We thought wrong, and decided it was in the best interests of both sides to part ways." "Being a former first-round pick, you would have hoped for more [of a chance]," said Gholston. Gholston, a backup defensive end for the Roughriders, also accused Smith of playing favorites with players such as Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher. "Whenever you have a new coach, you hope everything's fair," Gholston said. "But obviously, he had been in Chicago for a number of years and has a passion for those guys." Despite his lack of production, Gholston expressed optimism about his new CFL career. "Teams are always looking for talent, and to say I don't have talent is a far stretch," Gholston said. "It's all about getting a fair shot and time in the system. With the Bears, I never felt like I got the same kind of treatment as I do here in Saskatchewan." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 There may be a spot in the Lingerie League opening up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Saskatchewan Defensive End Gholston Says Lovie Smith, Bears didn't give him a fair shot September 13, 2011 Vernon Gholston, the former first-round pick whose career was a bust before the Bears released him during the offseason, slammed Bears coach Lovie Smith on Monday, saying the coach and the Bears organization didn't give him a fair chance. The Chicago Sun Times reported that the former Ohio State Buckeye -- who had zero sacks in 42 games in his Jets career -- made the comments after his new team, the Saskatchewan Roughriders, lost a game to the Toronto Argonauts. "I heard how he was perceiving me before the [2008] draft, before he knew me, and I was the same way" said Gholston, who was picked sixth overall in the 2008 NFL Draft when Eric Mangini was still coaching the Jets. Said Smith: "We felt we might be able to get something out of Gholston in our system. We thought wrong, and decided it was in the best interests of both sides to part ways." "Being a former first-round pick, you would have hoped for more [of a chance]," said Gholston. Gholston, a backup defensive end for the Roughriders, also accused Smith of playing favorites with players such as Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher. "Whenever you have a new coach, you hope everything's fair," Gholston said. "But obviously, he had been in Chicago for a number of years and has a passion for those guys." Despite his lack of production, Gholston expressed optimism about his new CFL career. "Teams are always looking for talent, and to say I don't have talent is a far stretch," Gholston said. "It's all about getting a fair shot and time in the system. With the Bears, I never felt like I got the same kind of treatment as I do here in Saskatchewan." Word is hes about to be cut by the roughriders but they offered him a chance to compete aganist this guy for the waterboy spot. he lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 Saskatchewan Defensive End Gholston Says Lovie Smith, Bears didn't give him a fair shot September 13, 2011 Vernon Gholston, the former first-round pick whose career was a bust before the Bears released him during the offseason, slammed Bears coach Lovie Smith on Monday, saying the coach and the Bears organization didn't give him a fair chance. The Chicago Sun Times reported that the former Ohio State Buckeye -- who had zero sacks in 42 games in his Jets career -- made the comments after his new team, the Saskatchewan Roughriders, lost a game to the Toronto Argonauts. "I heard how he was perceiving me before the [2008] draft, before he knew me, and I was the same way" said Gholston, who was picked sixth overall in the 2008 NFL Draft when Eric Mangini was still coaching the Jets. Said Smith: "We felt we might be able to get something out of Gholston in our system. We thought wrong, and decided it was in the best interests of both sides to part ways." "Being a former first-round pick, you would have hoped for more [of a chance]," said Gholston. Gholston, a backup defensive end for the Roughriders, also accused Smith of playing favorites with players such as Julius Peppers and Brian Urlacher. "Whenever you have a new coach, you hope everything's fair," Gholston said. "But obviously, he had been in Chicago for a number of years and has a passion for those guys." Despite his lack of production, Gholston expressed optimism about his new CFL career. "Teams are always looking for talent, and to say I don't have talent is a far stretch," Gholston said. "It's all about getting a fair shot and time in the system. With the Bears, I never felt like I got the same kind of treatment as I do here in Saskatchewan." This post is about a former NYJETS player and teams that arent the NYJETS. You said "no one cares about former players". Contradictory to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 This post is about a former NYJETS player and teams that arent the NYJETS. You said "no one cares about former players". Contradictory to say the least. You're right. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 You're right. My bad. You know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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