RutgersJetFan Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 So Empire is set 3 years after New Hope, and then Jedi is 1 year after Empire. Figure Luke's just started his Jedi training in IV, and it's not even real Jedi training, it's like ghetto Jedi training because there's no council and no formal-type sh*t. Nothing like Anakin was going through from Phantom Menace to Sith. He's not even really studying seriously under anyone at the beginning of Empire, doesn't get to Yoda until a little bit into the movie actually. He gets his a$$ handed to him by Vader, but then in Jedi, only a YEAR later, he's suddenly a Jedi master and Vader tells him his skills are complete just because he constructed a new light saber? Never mind the fact that Vader supposedly trained over 13 years to get to the level where he was at in Sith (yes I looked it up); are we really to believe that Luke is that much more of a natural at the force that he needed less than 25% of the time that it took for Vader to get to that level? All this while training under a decrepit Yoda in a swamp for only PART of that time, while Vader was traveling the galaxy and fighting wars with Obi Wan for his training? There's no way he should have been able to beat Vader in a light saber duel at the end of Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsyfan Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 It just goes to show you the weakness of a formal centralized education system. Luke got personal 1 on 1 training from 2 of the best in the history in their respective fields. That is superior to any dogmatic, archaic, centralized crap vader got. That or it is a plot hole, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Dude, everyone knows Vader's Force powers were severely diminished due to his a$$-whooping at the hands of Obi-Wan and subsequent half machine construction. Luke wasn't really all that great of a Jedi if you look at how he fared more often than not, it's just that it was all on a relative basis. Hell, he was even getting his a$$ whooped by Vader in ROTJ until he completely lost his sh*t when Vader threatened to go after Leia, and that only happened because his Jedi powers were too weak a$$ to keep Vader from finding out about her in about 2 seconds after Obi-Wan spent decades keeping that bitch a secret. Hell, for the 20 years prior, the only people in the galaxy rocking the Force were an old hermit Obi-Wan, Yoda sitting alone in a freakin' swamp, half robot Vader and that old crusty **** Emperor who proved within a moment he can still whoop all their asses if not for getting jumped from behind by his boy. There wasn't exactly a lot of competition in the "new Jedi" department for Luke, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 So Empire is set 3 years after New Hope, and then Jedi is 1 year after Empire. Figure Luke's just started his Jedi training in IV, and it's not even real Jedi training, it's like ghetto Jedi training because there's no council and no formal-type sh*t. Nothing like Anakin was going through from Phantom Menace to Sith. He's not even really studying seriously under anyone at the beginning of Empire, doesn't get to Yoda until a little bit into the movie actually. He gets his a$$ handed to him by Vader, but then in Jedi, only a YEAR later, he's suddenly a Jedi master and Vader tells him his skills are complete just because he constructed a new light saber? Never mind the fact that Vader supposedly trained over 13 years to get to the level where he was at in Sith (yes I looked it up); are we really to believe that Luke is that much more of a natural at the force that he needed less than 25% of the time that it took for Vader to get to that level? All this while training under a decrepit Yoda in a swamp for only PART of that time, while Vader was traveling the galaxy and fighting wars with Obi Wan for his training? There's no way he should have been able to beat Vader in a light saber duel at the end of Jedi. well you are looking at it as earth years, maybe a degobah year is like 10 earth years or 5 coruscant years? Luke did look much older from empire to jedi. Stop thinking like an earthling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Midichlorians bitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Luke is a lot like Danny Woodhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 What happens after the Death Star blows up? YOu aren't gojng to let a bunch of ewoks and Jar Jar run a galaxy economy. Midichlorians are another form of monarchy, not necessarily a better system based on what Vader and Palantine. Also, in the last episode they have very sophisticated medical technology yet Padame has NO IDEA she has twins. Face it; all Lucas gives a boris about is selling Happy meal toys, video games and merchanidising crap. The whole thing is warmed over senseless hooey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 So Empire is set 3 years after New Hope, and then Jedi is 1 year after Empire. Figure Luke's just started his Jedi training in IV, and it's not even real Jedi training, it's like ghetto Jedi training because there's no council and no formal-type sh*t. Nothing like Anakin was going through from Phantom Menace to Sith. He's not even really studying seriously under anyone at the beginning of Empire, doesn't get to Yoda until a little bit into the movie actually. He gets his a$$ handed to him by Vader, but then in Jedi, only a YEAR later, he's suddenly a Jedi master and Vader tells him his skills are complete just because he constructed a new light saber? Never mind the fact that Vader supposedly trained over 13 years to get to the level where he was at in Sith (yes I looked it up); are we really to believe that Luke is that much more of a natural at the force that he needed less than 25% of the time that it took for Vader to get to that level? All this while training under a decrepit Yoda in a swamp for only PART of that time, while Vader was traveling the galaxy and fighting wars with Obi Wan for his training? There's no way he should have been able to beat Vader in a light saber duel at the end of Jedi. First off, did you watch the marathon on spike? Is that where this came from? The thing you are totally not taking into account here is, Obi Wan became more powerful than Vadar could ever imagine when he struck him down. Therefore, he was giving Luke behind the scenes Jedi training that you couldnt receive if he was still alive. Then, he went and trained with Yoda 1 on 1, where as Anakin trained with Obi Wan in the phsyical form, not the meta-physical. HUGE difference here. Also, I think Luke benefited from learing on the fly. He was battling the Empire and learning to be a Jedi all a the same time. I think it accelerated his learning where as Anakin's was more methodical. They kind of gave the Luke the whole book out the gates where Anakin was getting bits and pieces. Duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 First off, did you watch the marathon on spike? Is that where this came from? Yes. Yesterday was a very frustrating day because of this. Also, all of you are stupid and your theories suck Darth balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Yes. Yesterday was a very frustrating day because of this. Also, all of you are stupid and your theories suck Darth balls. Please refrain from personal attacks. Yet, the Darth balls reference was a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Yes. Yesterday was a very frustrating day because of this. Also, all of you are stupid and your theories suck Darth balls. Ok then, how about this one, Luke got uber-Jedi'd up with extra Force power after making out with his Force-filled sister in Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Yes. Yesterday was a very frustrating day because of this. Also, all of you are stupid and your theories suck Darth balls. Says the guy who think Luke wasnt studying seriously under anyone till the Empire. I mean, Obi Wan was talking to Luke in the meta-phsyical state but he wasnt being coached till Empire? But we're stupid. okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt39 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 ughhh...wallet inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Says the guy who think Luke wasnt studying seriously under anyone till the Empire. I mean, Obi Wan was talking to Luke in the meta-phsyical state but he wasnt being coached till Empire? But we're stupid. okay Don't forget the influence of Qui-Gon Jinn. At the end of episode III. Master Yoda revealed to Obi-Wan that Qui-Gon's spirit has learned the secret of becoming one with the Force, which he clearly teaches to both Yoda and Obi-Wan. If you don't think uber badass Jedi Qui-Gon Jinn had a hand in Luke's training you're crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 What fool invented light sabers? One wrong move and you lop off your own leg, arm or head. Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Don't forget the influence of Qui-Gon Jinn. At the end of episode III. Master Yoda revealed to Obi-Wan that Qui-Gon's spirit has learned the secret of becoming one with the Force, which he clearly teaches to both Yoda and Obi-Wan. If you don't think uber badass Jedi Qui-Gon Jinn had a hand in Luke's training you're crazy. Exactly. God that RJF is a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 On a similar note to this pic, a bicycle d-bag cut my gf and I off in the car a few days ago, (never seen douchebaggery on the level of bike people until I moved to Chicago), and as he flicked us off after she honked, the best I could come up to yell out the window as he was peddling away was "f*ck you 4-eyes!" You know, because he had glasses on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 On a similar note to this pic, a bicycle d-bag cut my gf and I off in the car a few days ago, (never seen douchebaggery on the level of bike people until I moved to Chicago), and as he flicked us off after she honked, the best I could come up to yell out the window as he was peddling away was "f*ck you 4-eyes!" You know, because he had glasses on. ' Clearly your insult training is Luke Skywalker levels of weak. Also Obi-Wan > ever other Jedi. BOW TO THE MASTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 never seen douchebaggery on the level of bike people until I moved to Chicago A MILLION TIMES THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 On a similar note to this pic, a bicycle d-bag cut my gf and I off in the car a few days ago, (never seen douchebaggery on the level of bike people until I moved to Chicago), and as he flicked us off after she honked, the best I could come up to yell out the window as he was peddling away was "f*ck you 4-eyes!" You know, because he had glasses on. C'mon dude. You've spent summers in Belmar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 On a similar note to this pic, a bicycle d-bag cut my gf and I off in the car a few days ago, (never seen douchebaggery on the level of bike people until I moved to Chicago), and as he flicked us off after she honked, the best I could come up to yell out the window as he was peddling away was "f*ck you 4-eyes!" You know, because he had glasses on. Glasses or sun glasses. cuz I'm not sure the 4 eyes insult applies to someone wearing shades. ps - ever been to Seattle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 C'mon dude. You've spent summers in Belmar. I'm telling you man, it's not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I'm telling you man, it's not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. Affliction t-shirts as far as the eye can see, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 ya think the avg storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? alls they know is killing and white uniforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 what, you don't have a problem with ewoks taking out storn troopers with rocks or luke wanting to hump his sister ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Glasses or sun glasses. cuz I'm not sure the 4 eyes insult applies to someone wearing shades. ps - ever been to Seattle? OMG THIS. PacNW biker douchery. I literally have a golf club in my trunk to take out if some biker jerkoff decides to get testy with me. I've had a biker CHASE DOWN MY CAR, pull in front of it and slam his hands on my hood. Of course he wasn't so tough when I get out of the car and go get a club, but they're ******* dickheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Affliction t-shirts as far as the eye can see, huh? Worse. They're masked in regular work clothes or rec league baseball uniforms, giving off the impression that they might be somewhat normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Worse. They're masked in regular work clothes or rec league baseball uniforms, giving off the impression that they might be somewhat normal. Hipsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hipsters. Them too. I wouldn't even mind them so much if their ******* balls weren't hanging out of their jeans on the L every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Also Obi-Wan > ever other Jedi. BOW TO THE MASTER. Get this mother****ing Mace Windu off this mother****ing planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 OMG THIS. PacNW biker douchery. I literally have a golf club in my trunk to take out if some biker jerkoff decides to get testy with me. I've had a biker CHASE DOWN MY CAR, pull in front of it and slam his hands on my hood. Of course he wasn't so tough when I get out of the car and go get a club, but they're ******* dickheads. Unfortunately the self entitled bikers have been taking to kayaking lately. Nothing like coming through a busy narrow channel with a strong following current pushing you along while coming upon some kayaker paddling along dead in the middle because it's technically his "right" to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 On a similar note to this pic, a bicycle d-bag cut my gf and I off in the car a few days ago, (never seen douchebaggery on the level of bike people until I moved to Chicago), and as he flicked us off after she honked, the best I could come up to yell out the window as he was peddling away was "f*ck you 4-eyes!" You know, because he had glasses on. Thatta teach him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 OMG THIS. PacNW biker douchery. I literally have a golf club in my trunk to take out if some biker jerkoff decides to get testy with me. I've had a biker CHASE DOWN MY CAR, pull in front of it and slam his hands on my hood. Of course he wasn't so tough when I get out of the car and go get a club, but they're ******* dickheads. You might want to back off the weight lifting supplements a little their. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 You might want to back off the weight lifting supplements a little their. LOL rrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiddddddddddddddddsssssssss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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