JiFtheOracle Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Praising conventional stats when the context is that blatantly obvious is just benign at this point. I dont think its blatantly obvious at all. Not when you cant do anything on offense. It would be one thing if the running game was killing it, the offense line was lights out and we had a great play caller...but considering the run game in non-existent, the offense line is one of the worst in the league and we have an OC that cant adjust to a team switching to ******* zone....its hard for me, a known Sanchez hater, to say that is obvious. Reality is, we could argue that with all those factors making his job that much harder, that his statistical improvements are actually quite impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Sanchez played well enough to win yesterday. The offensive line and the defense did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I dont think its blatantly obvious at all. Not when you cant do anything on offense. It would be one thing if the running game was killing it, the offense line was lights out and we had a great play caller...but considering the run game in non-existent, the offense line is one of the worst in the league and we have an OC that cant adjust to a team switching to ******* zone....its hard for me, a known Sanchez hater, to say that is obvious. Reality is, we could argue that with all those factors making his job that much harder, that his statistical improvements are actually quite impressive. Winners go home and **** the prom queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yes, because it's really that simple. How poorly he was executing everything else had nothing to do with him having to consistently screen or check down. So, because Sanchez was 15/30 to his non-RB targets, that necessitated him throwing to his RBs (12/13). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcs Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Come on.... 80 of those syards were on a screen and the last drive was against a prevent... Sanchez again went long stretches of the game looking like poop the fact that the defense stunk doesn't mean sanchez couldn't have stunk too.. they are not mutually exclusive How does one look like poop when he still completes 65% of passes, a stat that includes a bunch of EASY drops that should have been completions. His efficiency is better. When the offensive line is getting manhandled and the receivers aren't getting open, what can you do? He got sacked 4 times. Lemme guess, that was his fault too. Oh stop it with this. 12 of his 27 completions were to Greene and Tomlinson. About 50% of his yardage came from that as well. That's pathetic, regardless of who you'd like to blame. A completion is still a completion. I don't care if he's throwing it to Matt Slauson. It doesn't make his throws any less accurate. The receivers weren't getting open, the line wasn't giving him enough time, plus Schotty is an idiot. Despite all that he still has a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Sanchez had a good day outside of one bad INT. His o-line was leaky. So many pressures....Raiders were hitting Sanchez left and right...and he still threw for 369 yards, 2 tds throwing, 1 td running and 1 INT. Pick a Goat: 1) Cromartie 2) O-Line 3) Calvin Pace (held the Raiders giving them a 1st down instead of a 3rd and 8,....so they score a FG...) ugh... LL I been really impress by Mark this year, you have to give it to the raiders they put it up, but yeah Cromartie flags(only one was deserving) and the fumble hurt bad...but we should have been able to come back any way. I blame shotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Winners go home and **** the prom queen. I've noticed when I make good points, you make funnies. And I'm ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yes, because it's really that simple. How poorly he was executing everything else had nothing to do with him having to consistently screen or check down. Calling a screen and checking down have nothing to do with each other. What are you saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Did Eli Manning have a good game yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I've noticed when I make good points, you make funnies. That isn't necessarily implied by the fact that you never make any good points and he never says anything funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 He's only 24, you know. The Penningtonology argument from Che Guevera himself. It's like if Kim Jong Il were arguing against nuclear proliferation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 That isn't necessarily implied by the fact that you never make any good points and he never says anything funny. Thanks bud. Maybe I should just stick to sh*tting all over players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Is Aten a Jets fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Is Aten a Jets fan? Of course I'm a Jets fan. I'd like Sanchez a lot more if I was a Patriots fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Thanks bud. Maybe I should just stick to sh*tting all over players. Not a real fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Thanks bud. Maybe I should just stick to sh*tting all over players. But whyyyyyyyyyyy wouldn't you want Sanchez to SUCCEEEEEEEEEED????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 But whyyyyyyyyyyy wouldn't you want Sanchez to SUCCEEEEEEEEEED????? Duh, to be be right on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 But whyyyyyyyyyyy wouldn't you want Sanchez to SUCCEEEEEEEEEED????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Not a real fan. But whyyyyyyyyyyy wouldn't you want Sanchez to SUCCEEEEEEEEEED????? You guys remember that thread I started back in 08 when I said we need to trade away our entire draft for Matt Stafford? I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 You guys remember that thread I started back in 08 when I said we need to trade away our entire draft for Matt Stafford? I do. The Lions weren't going to trade that pick. Favre and Cutler are more plausible alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yeah, the stats are all well and good but the problem imo is he seems to play aloof to start and doesn't seem to really turn it on until they are down and need a comeback. I don't know if it's focus and/ or if there is a fear to make the big play unless he feels he has to. Now, is it the coaching staff still holding him back putting pressure on him to protect the ball and let the D win the game combined with maybe still some immaturity, I dont know? But something is off/wrong. The mistakes seem to come at the wrong time and great plays seem to only come when his backs against the wall. I'm glad the kid seems to have guts at crunch time but I'm still waiting for a complete game from him. I do think some of it has to do w/ Shotty's momentum killing play calling. How much. Of that is to blame I don't know. But it still feels like they don't trust the kid until it's bailout time. That said the OL has been terrible and Shotty seems more concerned about balancing the game with a run, instead of going for the throat when Sanchez seems to be getting hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 The Lions weren't going to trade that pick. Favre and Cutler are more plausible alternatives. Josh Freeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Penningtonology? I never saw anyone defend Sanchez by using the word that shall not be uttered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Josh Freeman. Yesterday 22-32 180 yards 0 TD's 2 interceptions 56.8 rating So far this season 2 TD's 4 picks. What would this board be like if those were Sanchez's stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 You guys remember that thread I started back in 08 when I said we need to trade away our entire draft for Matt Stafford? I do. As long as we're playing the hindsight game, I'd give anything to go back and read Mick's posts on how McFadden's legs were to skinny to succeed in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 As long as we're playing the hindsight game, I'd give anything to go back and read Mick's posts on how McFadden's legs were to skinny to succeed in the NFL. McFadden has bulked up since college, and he still gets nicked up a lot. Isn't he questionable for the Pats game? That being said- backs with bulkier legs are the guys that seem to be successful in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 As long as we're playing the hindsight game, I'd give anything to go back and read Mick's posts on how McFadden's legs were to skinny to succeed in the NFL. I remember staying up that night praying someone took Gholston ahead of us and that DMC fell the the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMetsRangers Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yesterday 22-32 180 yards 0 TD's 2 interceptions 56.8 rating So far this season 2 TD's 4 picks. What would this board be like if those were Sanchez's stats Also although Freeman has completed a better % 68 to 63 for Sanchez, his YPA is a paltry 6.4 compared to 8.0 for Sanchez......Must be alot of checkdowns going on in Tampa...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 As long as we're playing the hindsight game, I'd give anything to go back and read Mick's posts on how McFadden's legs were to skinny to succeed in the NFL. Sadly, I was thinking of that yesterday as he broke tackle after tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Once again a central precept of Penningtology is dusted off to defend Sanchez. The Pennington bus has a new coat of paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Sanchez is a lot better than Pennington and their games arent remotely similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 63.1% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Penningtonology? I never saw anyone defend Sanchez by using the word that shall not be uttered. If Mark Sanchez had intangibles, he might be good at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 If Mark Sanchez had intangibles, he might be good at football. Its funny that the Sanchez haters seem to be bitching primarily about his lack of the "I" word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSage Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Revis is awesome? That's a reluctant start-almost there if u eliminate the "?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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