TNJet Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Should Brodney Pool start at safety instead of E. Smith? I noticed the lack of speed in our secondary yesterday, as McFadden blazed past us on a regular basis. Also is Leonhard really our best option? I know he's a tough guy but...Well answer me this: Would Rhodes and Pool have played better than Leonard and Smith? I wonder sometimes. Speed kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 YES! Thank you for this thread,.been screaming all year so far. Smith sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjets Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 did Pool ever get fined for that hit in pre-season? (I hope not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 While Smith sucks. DMC is going to make anyone in the league look slow, that includes Pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Should Brodney Pool start at safety instead of E. Smith? I noticed the lack of speed in our secondary yesterday, as McFadden blazed past us on a regular basis. Also is Leonhard really our best option? I know he's a tough guy but...Well answer me this: Would Rhodes and Pool have played better than Leonard and Smith? I wonder sometimes. Speed kills. Rhodes is now the anchor for one of the leagues worst defenses. Lets not forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I wonder how much worse Ihedigbo could have been in coverage vs Smith, however JI was a Beast on blitzes and probably just as if not more physical than Smith. What Rex sees in Smith I don't really know but he must be great in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Wasn't Smith blatantly held on the one huge back breaking RunDMC run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Wasn't Smith blatantly held on the one huge back breaking RunDMC run? That play was pretty much the exact replay of the Charlie Garner run in the 2001 playoffs. Holding and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Smith got caught inside and manhandled by one of Oakland's OL. Holding would have been questionable. That said I don't fault him too much for that one play as the Raiders to advantage of the Jets seemingly off balanced look. Was the right call at the right time and DMC took care of the rest. With that said Smith appears to have been the guy supposed to set the corner but he got caught flat foooted and eaten up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I should say edge, not corner I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 And btw that play reminded me of Vilma in year one of the Mangini era. Getting eatin up by interior lineman caught flat footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Smith has played well this year. Better than Leonhard by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I wonder how much worse Ihedigbo could have been in coverage vs Smith, however JI was a Beast on blitzes and probably just as if not more physical than Smith. What Rex sees in Smith I don't really know but he must be great in practice. Smith is very bad in coverage. Ihedigbo can't cover at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkiss24 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Ihedigbo is gone, I say give Pool some more burn. I've never liked Smith, I always looped him in with Drew "I fall down once the ball is thrown" Coleman in that I've always waited for the upgrade to be brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Should Brodney Pool start at safety instead of E. Smith? I noticed the lack of speed in our secondary yesterday, as McFadden blazed past us on a regular basis. Also is Leonhard really our best option? I know he's a tough guy but...Well answer me this: Would Rhodes and Pool have played better than Leonard and Smith? I wonder sometimes. Speed kills. No. He's been having a pretty good season. However, if you want to replace someone I have an offensive coordinator to talk to you about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I think Pool should start because his coverage numbers are just much better. The thing is Rex likes to kick down into the 46 from either side, so platooning the position with one guy who's better deep but not a good blitzer and another who can blitz but not cover is sort of an unsatisfactory compromise. I guess Rex can live with Smith in coverage better than with Pool coming off the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Smith has played well this year. Better than Leonhard by far. +1 if pool is to play it's at the expense of Leonard not Smith. Jim Leonard is the weakest link right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 +1 if pool is to play it's at the expense of Leonard not Smith. Jim Leonard is the weakest link right now. 2010. Leonhard gets hurt. Jets lose 45-3. Leonhard returns to health. Jets end up in AFC Title game. He's the QB of our defense, and your irrational hatred of him and stubborn nature in general is one of many reasons why I never visit your draft site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 2010. Leonhard gets hurt. Jets lose 45-3. Leonhard returns to health. Jets end up in AFC Title game. He's the QB of our defense, and your irrational hatred of him and stubborn nature in general is one of many reasons why I never visit your draft site. Sorry dude but again, you make a correlation that is flawed and hold it up as proof. Smith was a monster in the playoffs last year while Leonard was in a cast. The Jets won against top-notch teams without Leonard. As far as losing 45-3, our offense put up 3 points and never moved the ball an inch. How does leonard help that?. Leonard is not as good as we all pretend. He is the little engine that could--but no team accounts for him especially. Smith is the banger WR's keep in the corner of their eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 When has Jim Leonard caused a penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I blame Ducasse .If he didn't wiff on a block that got turner hurt ,which in turn forced us to trade a 7th round draft pick for a guard that was going to get cut from the Packers , which in turn forces us to trade Dwight Lowery to Jacksonville to recover our 7th round pick Lowery would have been our best safety , and probably starting by now. He should kill himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Ducasse is a cancer that is spreading on this team. We need to cut ties immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 YES! Thank you for this thread,.been screaming all year so far. Smith sucks. I was saying the same thing, then he had a great game against JAX (then again, who on this defense didn't play well against them) so I tried to give him another chance....back to my original thought....Bring in Pool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I blame Ducasse .If he didn't wiff on a block that got turner hurt watch that play again very closely Rob turner got pushed back at point of attack... something that happens alot to Rob Turner by the way, he's not as big as the Jets front office wants their OL to be... so arguably if Rob Turner holds his ground his legs don't get rolled up on it should also be noted that Sanchez stepped up, again if Mark threw it away or sidestepped or anything else, that also doesn't happen. finally JJ Watt is an absolute beast and he's the one that broke Turner's leg, not Ducasse. about 100 variables are in place for that unfortunate play to occur it wasn't just as simple as Vlad injured Rob Turner. it's not even an accurate statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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