The Gun Of Bavaria Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/mark-sanchez-struggles-drag-new-york-jets-down-against-new-england-patriots-100911 Great Article. Dead on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Do you bring anything worthwhile to the board anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Seemingly every team in the NFL scores 30 points these days, and we struggle to get a first down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 http://msn.foxsports...patriots-100911 Great Article. Dead on. Although he had two touchdown passes, Sanchez’s longest throw spanned a mere 22 yards (Brady connected on a key 73-yarder to Wes Welker to open the second half). Remarkably, Sanchez didn’t even attempt to throw deep against the NFL’s 32nd-ranked secondary. He had only 70 passing yards entering the fourth quarter. I didn't get to watch the whole game, but did they throw many, or any plays out there that he could have had a deep ball? Was the offense as a whole scaled down to showcase the run more? But the most damning statistic was New York’s third-down performance. Sanchez completed four of nine passes for 44 yards and was sacked twice. The Jets converted on just three of 11 attempts overall, including a stretch of four consecutive three-and-outs to open the game and a stretch of three consecutive three-and-outs in the third quarter. I wonder how much of this was on Sanchez and how much was on the receivers not catching the ball.... Overall not a bad article though. Sanchez does need to step up if this team is gonna go anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Seemingly every team in the NFL scores 30 points these days, and we struggle to get a first down. Even a hobbled Steelers team against a good defense and a terrible seahawks team can score more points against better defenses. Meanwhile we get the leagues worst and barely manage a first down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Do you bring anything worthwhile to the board anymore? More than the Yankees bring the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Article is mostly correct but at the end of the day Schott isn't putting Sanchez in a position to succeed, either. Slow starts are more damning of an OC more than the QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 connor dropped a 1st down, plax at least one anyone want to take shotty over belicheat in a chess match ? once he saw what the jets were doing they sat on the short stuff and the jets never made them pay I think when the very first play didn't work, sh*tty went into a shell the QB gets too much credit and too much blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Why is this a great article? Comparing Sanchez to an all time great? Comparing the worst offense in the league to the best? Pretty stupid if you ask me. The Pats offense is better than the Jets is what I got from this article...well, duh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Why is this a great article? Comparing Sanchez to an all time great? Comparing the worst offense in the league to the best? Pretty stupid if you ask me. The Pats offense is better than the Jets is what I got from this article...well, duh. you're forgetting that offenses don't play against each other - pats D stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 you're forgetting that offenses don't play against each other - pats D stinks And like our offense, we like to bring our offenses level of play down to the defenses as we all witnessed yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 And like our offense, we like to bring our level of play down to the defenses as we all witnessed yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Do you bring anything worthwhile to the board anymore? Just hoping you'll define "worthwhile"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 And like our offense, we like to bring our offenses level of play down to the defenses as we all witnessed yesterday. exactly and how anyone can't blame schotty for it is dumbfounding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 And like our offense, we like to bring our offenses level of play down to the defenses as we all witnessed yesterday. Did we bring our offense's level of play down? Or, did they play at the level they're capable of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Did we bring our offense's level of play down? Or, did they play at the level they're capable of? You and I both know this offense is capable of much more than they showed yesterday. We've seen it before. And it should have been better against such a terrible defense, but alas, why would that happen? That would just make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 You and I both know this offense is capable of much more than they showed yesterday. We've seen it before. And it should have been better against such a terrible defense, but alas, why would that happen? That would just make sense. When? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 When? Now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Now? No, when have we seen better from this offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/480919/bryant-moniz The answer to all our problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 http://espn.go.com/c...19/bryant-moniz The answer to all our problems Who? Is he as good as Brennan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 http://espn.go.com/c...19/bryant-moniz The answer to all our problems hahahahaahha Colt Brennan, Tommy Chung??? lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 No, when have we seen better from this offense? Houston? You made me have to go back and check some games, but in the last year I can't remember the last time we had a complete stampede with this offense on both the ground and through the air. Looking at a lot of games its either one or the other, never both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Houston? You made me have to go back and check some games, but in the last year I can't remember the last time we had a complete stampede with this offense on both the ground and through the air. Looking at a lot of games its either one or the other, never both. In other words, not with the 2011 offense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 In other words, not with the 2011 offense... 2011 offense? Isn't that still the same schitteheimer offense thats been here since Sanchez got here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 2011 offense? Isn't that still the same schitteheimer offense thats been here since Sanchez got here? If you believe that players don't matter, and only coaching does. Because, we don't have the same players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 If you believe that players don't matter, and only coaching does. Because, we don't have the same players. True. But at the same time Schitty and Sanchez have had 3 years to get comfortable, they should have this offense playing better than it is. Players do account for part of it, but we've seen QB's and offenses around the league rise up even if some of the players change. It's sad that Sanchez isn't at the level to make the players around him better, but its bad enough that Schitty can't help him out either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Shotty is awful... just awful... When Mcknight came in I was lettting myself think maybe someone got to Shotty... but then Mcknight split out wide waving his hands in the air just like they do with LT... no new package/play... just Mcknight pretending to be LT... ugh The best is on 3rd and short when Shotty clears LT out of the backfield... forcing Sanchez to extend the drive in the air with about 1.3 seconds to throw... and the routes all take 2 seconds... Oh and once again Holmes was quitting on routes and plays... the dude is a lazy bastard... Plax came back to try and make something happen when Sanchez scrambled free... Holmes just stopped and stood there watching Sanchez fight for his life to find someone open... he just doesn't care enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Unless we can get the offensive line to start controlling the line of scrimamge we are not going to be able to compete against good defenses or bad ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I read this steaming pile of an article,,..what a waste of time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 True. But at the same time Schitty and Sanchez have had 3 years to get comfortable, they should have this offense playing better than it is. Players do account for part of it, but we've seen QB's and offenses around the league rise up even if some of the players change. It's sad that Sanchez isn't at the level to make the players around him better, but its bad enough that Schitty can't help him out either. Well, if you're saying they both suck, then we're on the same page, and what are we talking about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 When Mcknight came in I was lettting myself think maybe someone got to Shotty... but then Mcknight split out wide waving his hands in the air just like they do with LT... no new package/play... just Mcknight pretending to be LT... ugh what was up with that ? I've never seen that before on any level of football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Well, if you're saying they both suck, then we're on the same page, and what are we talking about? I don't know. I can't do any work at work cause I'm still raging that schitty is STILL the OC of this team. 3 QB's later and this team still hasn't learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Unless we can get the offensive line to start controlling the line of scrimamge we are not going to be able to compete against good defenses or bad ones. They did and we still lost. That one drive in the first half was like a flashback to 2009. They knew that Greene was coming and they still couldn't stop it. The run game was there but we still lost because the offense couldn't pick up a first through the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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