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Maybin just made me start a franchise on Madden. Of course I had to edit him so the game can reflect his BEASTLINESS!

He does have a few moves, I think he is more than just a speed rusher. I do agree though right now he is just a rusher. But when the one trick pony is replacing a no trick pony, that's progress!

He is not a "luxury" when no one else in the front 7 can do what he does in the rush because of his speed. Yes, the rest of the D does the dirty work, but Maybin can take advantage of it. Westerman

Yeah seriously. Anyone complaining that other people are doing the work so Maybin can make plays need to realize Gholston wouldn't even make plays when they were right there for him. And we didn't spend a top-10 pick on Maybin. For what he brings to the table, he can prove to be an asset, even if it's only in obvious passing situations.

I could not agree more. Anyone putting Maybin down in any capacity should take a second and realize that neither BT or Pace can do what he does. As a matter of fact we haven't had someone who does what he does in a long time. That in no way is implying a diminished value towards either BT or Pace. but having a guy who can get to the QB on obvious passing downs is an asset. Point blank. Who cares if it's one move he uses every time? I wouldn't care if he had to put his ankles behind his ears and run on his butt cheeks if it ended up with him getting the sack on 3rd and long. And on top of it all HE PLAYS FOR PEANUTS!!!! We gave up NOTHING to get him and he's getting in the game ahead of Westerman and Mauga (who sucks by the way) What's the problem here?

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Was creeping on a Bills forum. Check these clowns out..

Maybin is still riding on hype. Hey dummy run after the QB, its pretty easy. The Jets keep it simple for him but to have a specialist like him you have to waste a roster spot on a guy that can do nothing but run after the QB because I don't think the guy can do anything else which is why he is gone.

When Maybin is in all I see is a guy freed up, wait for the blitz and toss right over his head. He is a non factor if the QB uses his smarts and gets a quick release IMO

I'm not a genius or anything but doesn't a "quick release" work in the Jets favor? I mean they lack a pass rush and have great corners.

They've all been coverage sacks. I'm sure Merriman would have more sacks if we had Revis Island.

I think he clearly beat his man against San Diego although it was Ryan Matthews that chipped him. However, the explosion and speed after he was down was remarkable.

He's just a kid. There's ways to beat the Jets defense. Continue to run the football, regardless of yards. And throw quick passes/slants. The Jets should be 2-5 right now.

What an idiot!

They are just furious that he's done more in 3 games with the Jets than he did in 2 seasons with the Bills. I mean, I would be mad too if Gholston blew up like this.

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they key is he is a role player here. during the 2 minute drill, as a down rusher, he didn't get a whiff. I'm sure they saw a lot of that in buffalo. I'm a little nervous rex wants to use him more, I think the role he is in now is perfect

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New York Jets LB Aaron Maybin, 10.24

On being relentless on the field…

That’s always been my calling card. I tell people all the time, you look at me playing high school or Pop Warner football and you look at me playing today, you’re basically seeing the same thing. My whole thing is, no matter how good somebody is, no matter how fast somebody is, no matter how talented somebody is, it’s always been my mentality that however good the offensive player is, he doesn’t want to get to the end zone as badly as I want to get to him. As long as I play the game like that, there’s always going to be something there for me.

On Rex Ryan’s confidence in him being genuine…

I think I’ve said that probably since the first time they brought me here in the summer. That was really one of the main determining factors that brought me here in the first place. Obviously, me and Coach Ryan have had a relationship for some time as I’ve grown up in Baltimore and we’ve known each other through his kids and that kind of stuff for however long. Really, when it came down to it, when I left Buffalo, we were trying to decide what it was I was going to do next and where I was going to land. The biggest factor for me (was) I’m not going to go someplace where basically I’m putting myself back into the same situation I was before. Wherever I’m going to go, it has to be some place that has a certain need of my skill set and someplace that was going to have the confidence in me to give me the opportunity to at least go and prove that I’m not who I think I am. At least put me on the field and let me prove that, and that’s what Coach Ryan did when I got here.

On whether it was frustrating not being able to contribute in Buffalo…

It was a very frustrating time, but like I said, God takes us all through different paths for different reasons. I can’t sit here and say that I’m the exact same person that I was when I first came into the league. I came into the league, I was 20 years old. I wasn’t even 21. There’s been so much that I’ve learned and so much that I think life kind of teaches you. I’ve been through a lot since I’ve been in the league, but all those things have contributed to me being where I’m at right now, so I can’t say that I have any regrets.

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Loved him at Penn State.He was a beast up there! He looks like he just neede to be coached, hes all heart. Gotta like that. Maybe the Jets found a gem in the trash heap, but they have to sign him to a safety net contract.

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WTF? Westerman is the same as Maybin? Other than the fact that Rex called Westerman a DPR I don't think they have much in common. More importantly, what the **** does losing Thomas have to do with stopping the run? Thomas was there when they were gouged for 250 by the Raiders. They haven't exactly been dominated on the ground since he got hurt.

So was Scott, Harris, Revis, Pace, Pouha, Leonard, Smith, Cromartie, Devito, Wilson...sorry, man but that means absolutely nothing in regards to Thomas' contribution. He's twice the player Westerman is, and an every-down player. There is a reason he has started for this team for so many years. He's a very good OLB. Not great, but neither is Pace, who was invisible last week (2 tackles) and costs a ton more. I get the feeling that, in your mind, whoever is playing for this team right now is better than the person who has been replaced no matter what.

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Whats DPR ?

I know you already got your answer, but please not that is a Rex term. It's not mine.

they key is he is a role player here. during the 2 minute drill, as a down rusher, he didn't get a whiff. I'm sure they saw a lot of that in buffalo. I'm a little nervous rex wants to use him more, I think the role he is in now is perfect

I don't think he will excel in our 2 minute D or prevent. He is relentless, but he is so small that he will never get in when we only rush three. As long as a lineman can get hands on him he isn't getting in and when the Jets rush 3 even if he beats his man there is another waiting to squash him.

I think the Jets are using Maybin this year the way they had hoped to use Taylor last year. There's really no chance that Maybin cracks the starting lineup, so he should be able to continue to be successful in his spot rushing role. Either that, of he'll garner extra attention and someone else will get to the QB when he's out there.

Agreed. Maybin is better suited, if less versatile. Pace getting hurt meant that Taylor had to play significant downs and he either got worn down or just plain sucked.

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Was creeping on a Bills forum. Check these clowns out..

This is my favorite. From a man rooting for a team that is using a roster spot and pretty fair sized contract on a kick returner/wildcat QB. Running after the QB is pretty easy. It's just not very easy to do well which is why those guys get so much money.

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So was Scott, Harris, Revis, Pace, Pouha, Leonard, Smith, Cromartie, Devito, Wilson...sorry, man but that means absolutely nothing in regards to Thomas' contribution. He's twice the player Westerman is, and an every-down player. There is a reason he has started for this team for so many years. He's a very good OLB. Not great, but neither is Pace, who was invisible last week (2 tackles) and costs a ton more. I get the feeling that, in your mind, whoever is playing for this team right now is better than the person who has been replaced no matter what.

Actually it means plenty. It means that acting like Westerman is the problem with our run defense is a fallacy. The team has been fine agaisnt the run with Westerman and they were getting bashed earlier in the year with Thomas. Period. I'm not saying Westerman is better, but it's silly to act like he is the problem.

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Actually it means plenty. It means that acting like Westerman is the problem with our run defense is a fallacy. The team has been fine agaisnt the run with Westerman and they were getting bashed earlier in the year with Thomas. Period. I'm not saying Westerman is better, but it's silly to act like he is the problem.

The problem's been the ILB's. Not even sure why this is being argued, it's pretty obvious. Neither Scott or Harris have been consistently good this year. Harris is particularly frustrating because of his age and the fact that he just got paid a sh*tload. Jason ripped that contract to shreds when it happened and thus far he's been spot on. He's been awful against the run this season.

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The problem's been the ILB's. Not even sure why this is being argued, it's pretty obvious. Neither Scott or Harris have been consistently good this year. Harris is particularly frustrating because of his age and the fact that he just got paid a sh*tload. Jason ripped that contract to shreds when it happened and thus far he's been spot on. He's been awful against the run this season.

I'm not so sure. The main thing has been outside runs. The Dolphins may have been able to make some noise if Bush didn't get hurt. I still think that if you take away three almost fluke plays against the Raiders everything is fine. I agree the ILBs haven't been playing up to their past performance, but I don't think that's the whole story. I'm sure it's a combo which includes Wilkerson getting experience.

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The Bills have 4 sacks in 6 games, Maybin has 3 sacks in 3 games. He might be a better pass rusher now than anyone on the Bills front 7.

He is

It looks like Maybin's problems on the Bills was the fact that they paid so much for him as a high draft pick, and either wanted him to be a complete LB or not play.

Rex didn't pay anything for him. He's real happy giving him a roster spot to chase the QB. not only that but from what I've seen he has the potential to be a pretty good ST'er. Guys fast, and he hustles.

If the opponent has to waste a 2nd blocker to diminish his impact. Great. One less guy to block other people.

Look, if we can waste a roster spot on a St'er with a broken wrist, we can use a roster spot on a guy with 4 sacks and 3 strips.

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Actually it means plenty. It means that acting like Westerman is the problem with our run defense is a fallacy. The team has been fine agaisnt the run with Westerman and they were getting bashed earlier in the year with Thomas. Period. I'm not saying Westerman is better, but it's silly to act like he is the problem.

It is silly to act like Westeman is the problem. I didn't see anypost in this thread or any other that said Westerman is the problem. I never said he was the problem. Where are you getting this stuff from?

Now you say we are doing better now with Westerman than we were with Thomas. But you're not saying Thomas is a worse player. What exactly are you saying? If you're saying he's not a huge step down...okay that's not an opinion I agree with, but it is a valid opinion. I had hoped for more from him, personally. I thought he would get an opportunity to shine when Gholston was ditched. He has had the opportunity, but hasn't shined. Still, he's a better player as a UDFA than Gholston ever was as a 1st rounder. So, he's solid depth on a team that hasn't had much depth in many areas. As far as that goes, I'm happy with him. but Maybin is one-dimensional and he's better at that dimension than Westerman. So maybe Maybin should start over him? Or is Westerman a more capable replacement overall, but not as good a pass rusher? I think the team is as uncertain as we are. It'll be up to Maybin to play himself onto the field, I think.

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That's not what they need though. They need an every down OLB.

I like the combination of Westerman and Maybin, but they're basically the same player. It's a huge reason we've sucked against the run...Thomas was huge in the run game.

It is silly to act like Westeman is the problem. I didn't see anypost in this thread or any other that said Westerman is the problem. I never said he was the problem. Where are you getting this stuff from?

Now you say we are doing better now with Westerman than we were with Thomas. But you're not saying Thomas is a worse player. What exactly are you saying? If you're saying he's not a huge step down...okay that's not an opinion I agree with, but it is a valid opinion. I had hoped for more from him, personally. I thought he would get an opportunity to shine when Gholston was ditched. He has had the opportunity, but hasn't shined. Still, he's a better player as a UDFA than Gholston ever was as a 1st rounder. So, he's solid depth on a team that hasn't had much depth in many areas. As far as that goes, I'm happy with him. but Maybin is one-dimensional and he's better at that dimension than Westerman. So maybe Maybin should start over him? Or is Westerman a more capable replacement overall, but not as good a pass rusher? I think the team is as uncertain as we are. It'll be up to Maybin to play himself onto the field, I think.

I never said Westerman was better than Thomas. I said it was silly to act like Westerman was the problem against the run when they were worse with Thomas - who the post I quoted was "huge against the run". I'm not downplaying Thomas, I believe the problem was scheme and execution, but I don't think it's fair to put the problem on the loss of Thomas when the team was easily as bad before Thomas got hurt. You should have read the post I quoted. I quoted it above - it blames Westerman and Maybin for our failure to stop the run. Maybin wasn't even on the roster when the problems started. I don't think Westerman is better than Thomas. He's basically a JAG, but I don't think he's an embarrassment out there either. I also don't think Thomas is as good as most of our posters, so I'm not sure how "huge" a step down it will be, but Thomas was having a good year.

Maybin weighs 228. He can't play every down. Period. No chance. It is my firm belief that Westerman is a much better every down LB than Maybin and Maybin is a better pass rusher. In fact, I don't even consider Maybin an OLB, he is strictly a Designated Pass Rusher. Maybe with a camp or even with the bye week they will be able to work him into a few other situations that utilize his speed and cover for his tiny size, but I'm not holding my breath and it certainly won't be a regular occurence.

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I never said Westerman was better than Thomas. I said it was silly to act like Westerman was the problem against the run when they were worse with Thomas - who the post I quoted was "huge against the run". I'm not downplaying Thomas, I believe the problem was scheme and execution, but I don't think it's fair to put the problem on the loss of Thomas when the team was easily as bad before Thomas got hurt. You should have read the post I quoted. I quoted it above - it blames Westerman and Maybin for our failure to stop the run. Maybin wasn't even on the roster when the problems started. I don't think Westerman is better than Thomas. He's basically a JAG, but I don't think he's an embarrassment out there either. I also don't think Thomas is as good as most of our posters, so I'm not sure how "huge" a step down it will be, but Thomas was having a good year.

Maybin weighs 228. He can't play every down. Period. No chance. It is my firm belief that Westerman is a much better every down LB than Maybin and Maybin is a better pass rusher. In fact, I don't even consider Maybin an OLB, he is strictly a Designated Pass Rusher. Maybe with a camp or even with the bye week they will be able to work him into a few other situations that utilize his speed and cover for his tiny size, but I'm not holding my breath and it certainly won't be a regular occurence.

wow. 228. He's actually a big safety. Wonder if he has the wits to convert.

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Somehow at the end of the day one gets a feeling the JETS are one Bart Scott replacement, and one Eric Smith replacement away from being a shutdown defensive team!

Man, you people are going to be unhappy when you get your wish and Bart is gone.

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Somehow at the end of the day one gets a feeling the JETS are one Bart Scott replacement, and one Eric Smith replacement away from being a shutdown defensive team!

I seriously do think Scott is the most overrated player on the team. However I like when he seems to line up on the outside and pass rushes.

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eric smith is not the problem.the problem is with eric smith AND jim leonard together as a team.both are more suited to strong safety and neither are a free safety.both would play better with a true free safety.that being said,i would rather have smith than leonard.scott,imo,is starting to show major wear and tear

Somehow at the end of the day one gets a feeling the JETS are one Bart Scott replacement, and one Eric Smith replacement away from being a shutdown defensive team!

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I seriously do think Scott is the most overrated player on the team. However I like when he seems to line up on the outside and pass rushes.

He seems to get owned on a lot of running plays. I still like the intensity but seems like the years are catching up!

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This coming game against the Bills is when we find out if Maybin is more then just a 6 or 7 snap a game player.

Rex has really been talking the guy up, he's been performing well in a limited role. Rex says he is going to get more snaps this coming week. Maybin of course wants to have a breakout game against the team that didn't play him, then cut him.

The Bills have got to be annoyed that a guy they cut has become a coach's and fan favorite for a division rival

The Bills of course know why they cut him. He only weights 225 (according to Rex) can't stand up against the run. The Jets D has been struggling against the out side running game.

Think they are going to test Maybin?

Key to this game, for the Jets, and Maybin, is to get on top early. Make the Bills throw the ball. If that happens Maybin could have a break out game.

If the Bills get in a situation that they can pick on him with the running game, not so good.

IMO this will be a fun match up to watch

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This coming game against the Bills is when we find out if Maybin is more then just a 6 or 7 snap a game player.

Rex has really been talking the guy up, he's been performing well in a limited role. Rex says he is going to get more snaps this coming week. Maybin of course wants to have a breakout game against the team that didn't play him, then cut him.

The Bills have got to be annoyed that a guy they cut has become a coach's and fan favorite for a division rival

The Bills of course know why they cut him. He only weights 225 (according to Rex) can't stand up against the run. The Jets D has been struggling against the out side running game.

Think they are going to test Maybin?

Key to this game, for the Jets, and Maybin, is to get on top early. Make the Bills throw the ball. If that happens Maybin could have a break out game.

If the Bills get in a situation that they can pick on him with the running game, not so good.

IMO this will be a fun match up to watch

I think Maybin is way more than a six or seven snap a game player, but that is at the mercy of the 1st and 2nd down defense and the offense scoring some points so that teams have to pass to catch up. I'm sure he played more than that on Sunday.

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