SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'm thinking 5 TKL, 3 sacks, and a couple TFL. What say you? Oh and get this, he'll be starting at DeVito's vacated DE spot. Love it. It's exactly where I think Ellis should be, though I realize that 3-4 DL should be able to do w/e the hell they can do on a DL no matter where they're positioned. I'm excited you snitches. This guy has a crapload of talent...His upside rivals that of Wilkerson even, though he's less likely to reach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Is this because he's been playing well or because Dixon is dinged up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'm thinking 5 TKL, 3 sacks, and a couple TFL. What say you? Oh and get this, he'll be starting at DeVito's vacated DE spot. Love it. Isn't he a little bit big and slow to play end, even in a 3-4? Looks like an NT. It's exactly where I think Ellis should be, though I realize that 3-4 DL should be able to do w/e the hell they can do on a DL no matter where they're positioned. I'm excited you snitches. This guy has a crapload of talent...His upside rivals that of Wilkerson even, though he's less likely to reach it. Wilkerson? That's supposed to excite us? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I think Ducasse needs to be switched to DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 With Shaun Ellis on our D, we're gonna kick AZZZZZZZ!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Is this because he's been playing well or because Dixon is dinged up? Can't say I know about Dixon, but I know Ellis has definitely shown his flashes here. I thought Dixon would be next in line too because he's really been a find. .Isn't he a little bit big and slow to play end, even in a 3-4? Looks like an NT. No, except for the part where he looks like a NT, which he does with possibly top tier size. Wilkerson? That's supposed to excite us? LOL I don't expect your basic package Jet fan to get it, but beyond that yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I don't expect your basic package Jet fan to get it, but beyond that yes. Look at the big brain on Gato!!! Good thing us "basic package Jet fans" have him around to tell us how dumb we are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Look at the big brain on Gato!!! Good thing us "basic package Jet fans" have him around to tell us how dumb we are! No speaky herp-derp. No speaky no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 No speaky herp-derp. No speaky no. Obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I don't expect your basic package Jet fan to get it, but beyond that yes. Please explain then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Please explain then. Short answer: A 3-4 team couldn't give a damn whether they line up 3 guys built like Richard Seymour or 3 guys built like Vince Wilfork at the same time. Long answer: Ellis has NT weight, but he's also 6'5 and athletic both on the field and during the combine workouts. He's a 6'5" 350 pounder who ran a 5.19 in the 40, put up an impressive 7.84 in the 3 cone, and topped it off with a 32 inch vertical. He's not idiot on the field so he gets his arms up when he can, and they're long arms (almost a full 36 inches). With his size he excels in the running game, but once in a while he can break through against the pass. Since he's young and still has that athleticism, he's long limbed, he's not an idiot, and 3-4 DL don't care where you put them the idea of him at DE just makes sense. It's like Starlin Castro at SS...might as well do it because why the f*ck not? He'll be a DE/DT on the first 2 downs. If he's in against the pass at all it'll be at DT/NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Isn't he a little bit big and slow to play end, even in a 3-4? Looks like an NT. Not any more so than Haloti Ngata. He's played DE on a 3-man front (shifting to DT when they line up Suggs on the line) for almost his whole career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I think this kid is going to be a major force for this team going forward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I think this kid is going to be a major force for this team going forward... Hope so. If he plays up to his talent level in the pro's then with his size he'll be a menace for other teams to deal with. Plus Pouha is in the last year of his contract and is no spring chicken (though he probably eats plenty of them, along with anything else within arm's reach). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Even if this guy pans out, I would not be opposed to taking another Dlineman high in the draft. Stockpile the trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I think this kid is going to be a major force for this team going forward... Me too, it's one of the things Jets fans can be excited about for years to come. Btw that is a MONSTER DL. Mo 6'4 315/Pouha 6'3 325/Ellis 6'5 330 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Im excited to see what this guy can do. I was happy with the selection. He may be a little too amped up this week and get schooled a bit on some plays but at some point rooks have to get that first start under their belt and this is as good a time as any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Short answer: A 3-4 team couldn't give a damn whether they line up 3 guys built like Richard Seymour or 3 guys built like Vince Wilfork at the same time. Long answer: Ellis has NT weight, but he's also 6'5 and athletic both on the field and during the combine workouts. He's a 6'5" 350 pounder who ran a 5.19 in the 40, put up an impressive 7.84 in the 3 cone, and topped it off with a 32 inch vertical. He's not idiot on the field so he gets his arms up when he can, and they're long arms (almost a full 36 inches). With his size he excels in the running game, but once in a while he can break through against the pass. Since he's young and still has that athleticism, he's long limbed, he's not an idiot, and 3-4 DL don't care where you put them the idea of him at DE just makes sense. It's like Starlin Castro at SS...might as well do it because why the f*ck not? He'll be a DE/DT on the first 2 downs. If he's in against the pass at all it'll be at DT/NT. Thank you, but you misunderstood. I didn't need you to explain why you like Kenrick Ellis. Just wanted to know why the comparison with Mo Wilk should be so exciting. What has Mo Wilk done all season? He's been solid enough but you don't really hear his name called. There was that one safety, and he blew up a couple running plays in the backfield but I don't remember anything else in the past 11 games. I'm glad to see Ellis get some playing time, but disappointed that it had to come at the expense of DeVito, who may be our best lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Thank you, but you misunderstood. I didn't need you to explain why you like Kenrick Ellis. Just wanted to know why the comparison with Mo Wilk should be so exciting. What has Mo Wilk done all season? He's been solid enough but you don't really hear his name called. There was that one safety, and he blew up a couple running plays in the backfield but I don't remember anything else in the past 11 games. I'm glad to see Ellis get some playing time, but disappointed that it had to come at the expense of DeVito, who may be our best lineman. I'm having trouble taking this seriously again...Wilkerson was one of the younger players in the draft last year and has walked right into the NFL as a 21 year old rookie DL and started. That in itself is impressive. The fact that he hasn't f'd it up alone speaks to his talent, but throw in that he's actually made some plays too? The guy is a potential stud on the DL. And Ellis isn't stealing time from DeVito. DeVito is hurt. That's why he's not playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Even if this guy pans out, I would not be opposed to taking another Dlineman high in the draft. Stockpile the trenches. If he turns out they just need one more for the long term, and even then I'd be really happy with a long term Wilkerson - Ellis - DeVito starting DL with guys like Dixon rotating in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Even if this guy pans out, I would not be opposed to taking another Dlineman high in the draft. Stockpile the trenches. If he pans out we need to add another big body as a rotational guy in the mid to late rounds. We have actual needs to use high picks on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan718 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Derek Wolfe from Cincinnati might be a good late round pick for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larz Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 letrs hope his conditioning is up to speed, and he can rush the passer, that would be nice, right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'm having trouble taking this seriously again...Wilkerson was one of the younger players in the draft last year and has walked right into the NFL as a 21 year old rookie DL and started. That in itself is impressive. The fact that he hasn't f'd it up alone speaks to his talent, but throw in that he's actually made some plays too? The guy is a potential stud on the DL. And Ellis isn't stealing time from DeVito. DeVito is hurt. That's why he's not playing. But give Sanchez more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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