Barton Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 If teams can negate the playmaking ability of your best player (Revis) by simply not throwing at him, shouldnt our coaching staff adjust? Why not move Revis around more ala Charles Woodson? How often is Revis blitzing, playing nickel, covering the TE, roving etc? Never. Rex is obsessed with man-on-man defense. Might be time to incorporate a new wrinkle, JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I refuse to embarrass myself by debating how to fix Rex's defense. 2011: 5th 2010: 3rd 2009: 1st 2008: 2nd 2007: 6th 2006: 1st 2005: 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 If teams can negate the playmaking ability of your best player (Revis) by simply not throwing at him, shouldnt our coaching staff adjust? Why not move Revis around more ala Charles Woodson? How often is Revis blitzing, playing nickel, covering the TE, roving etc? Never. Rex is obsessed with man-on-man defense. Might be time to incorporate a new wrinkle, JMO. The problem with the Jets defense is that no one on the Jets can draft a pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I refuse to embarrass myself by debating how to fix Rex's defense. 2011: 5th 2010: 3rd 2009: 1st 2008: 2nd 2007: 6th 2006: 1st 2005: 5th The defense did disappoint at times. But honestly, after maybe Safety, the biggest upgrade you could make to this defense is an offense that gets first downs. The Jets win games with the defense on the field, stopping a team on 4th down. Good teams win games with the offense on the field, taking running the ball until they can kneel down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Our best playmaker is negated by opposing offenses. Why has our coaching staff not counter-adjusted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The defense did disappoint at times. But honestly, after maybe Safety, the biggest upgrade you could make to this defense is an offense that gets first downs. The Jets win games with the defense on the field, stopping a team on 4th down. Good teams win games with the offense on the field, taking running the ball until they can kneel down. Could not agree more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Our best playmaker is negated by opposing offenses. Why has our coaching staff not counter-adjusted? Because he basically takes their best playmaker out of the game. Revis isn't really a "playmaker". He's a guy that does his job incredibly well and forces the other team to use their other options besides their #1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I refuse to embarrass myself by debating how to fix Rex's defense. 2011: 5th 2010: 3rd 2009: 1st 2008: 2nd 2007: 6th 2006: 1st 2005: 5th You can't argue the OP's point. It is predictable. Top5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Because he basically takes their best playmaker out of the game. Revis isn't really a "playmaker". He's a guy that does his job incredibly well and forces the other team to use their other options besides their #1 WR. Thats not always true and thus my point. Revis only covers wide-outs. Pats best weapons Chad Johnson and Branch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The problem with the Jets defense is that no one on the Jets can draft a pass rusher. 1 round: OLB 2 round: OLB 3 round: Safety 4 round: RT 5 round: RB 6 round: TE 7 round: GFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 You can't argue the OP's point. It is predictable. Top5. LOL +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Our best playmaker is negated by opposing offenses. Why has our coaching staff not counter-adjusted? Revis is not the problem. When you see how the Jints picked apart Charles Woodson, I have to disagree. The problem is no pass rush extends plays. And as the play breaks down receivers get open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Revis is not the problem. When you see how the Jints picked apart Charles Woodson, I have to disagree. The problem is no pass rush extends plays. And as the play breaks down receivers get open. ....never said Revis is the problem. My claim is the Jets are not fully utlizing his skillset by keeping him on an "island" 24/7. Woodson might be falling off but his versatility in a defense maximized his playmaking ability throughout the latter half of his career. No reason why Jets cant move Revis around some in particular circumstances (Patriots etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Thats not always true and thus my point. Revis only covers wide-outs. Pats best weapons Chad Johnson and Branch? Of course some teams are built differently. But, Revis is just one player, and he's one player who doesn't rush the QB. You can avoid players like that. Best CB in the league < Good pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 If teams can negate the playmaking ability of your best player (Revis) by simply not throwing at him, shouldnt our coaching staff adjust? Why not move Revis around more ala Charles Woodson? How often is Revis blitzing, playing nickel, covering the TE, roving etc? Never. Rex is obsessed with man-on-man defense. Might be time to incorporate a new wrinkle, JMO. I agree. Revis is the definition of a complete corner. He plays man, zone, he can play the run and I believe he can get to the QB. Revis needs to be all over the field. I think we've been obsessed with making Revis "the island". Revis can do it all, and he should if he's capable to. sh*t, you already paid him! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Rex has no problem with Defensive scheme or being predictable he just lacked any talent at all at the safety position and the LB's are beginning to age a bit. Only predictability was since our Safeties were so horrible we could not stop TE's from exploiting the living hell out of us no matter what play Rex called/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I agree. Revis is the definition of a complete corner. He plays man, zone, he can play the run and I believe he can get to the QB. Revis needs to be all over the field. I think we've been obsessed with making Revis "the island". Revis can do it all, and he should if he's capable to. sh*t, you already paid him! lol. Man I know its was not taken well when i brought it up last year,,, but I would love to see what Revis could do at the safety position. As smart as he is and as much as he studies players on film i think it would be fun to watch. I mean hes a tough SOB as well and tackles better than all our safties to begin with LOL . I wonder if he would become that playmaker this defense really needs like an Ed Reed or Troy Palamalu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 1 round: OLB 2 round: OLB 3 round: Safety 4 round: RT 5 round: RB 6 round: TE 7 round: GFY I'd like to see a real WR drafted early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Rex has no problem with Defensive scheme or being predictable he just lacked any talent at all at the safety position and the LB's are beginning to age a bit. Only predictability was since our Safeties were so horrible we could not stop TE's from exploiting the living hell out of us no matter what play Rex called/ I completely agree. Pace sucks IMO. They can say whatever they want about him, he has no real impact. BT was hurt this year and we missed his athleticism and abilty to cover as well as get to the run. He is getting older and is coming off of an injury. There is a serious need to upgrade the position as well as safety. It's past due with these guys. Eric smith has value but should not be a starting safety. The Jim Leonard era is over as well. We have work to do, but Rex's ability to call a D is not the problem as I see it. Talent is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'd like to see a real WR drafted early If there was one worth it, I'd be down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 1 round: OLB 2 round: OLB 3 round: Safety 4 round: RT 5 round: RB 6 round: TE 7 round: GFY Cool story, bro. What will happen more than likely is this: 1(13) Trent Richardson--Tannenbaum trades 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up to #13 to draft Richardson because Sparano loveeees him. 4: RT 5: S 6: OG 7: P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Jets could do worse, trent is a stud and greene blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The problem with the Jets defense is that no one on the Jets can draft a pass rusher. This defense has never been elite in creating turnovers and forcing sacks. Teams bleed them to death by going over the middle of the field in big spots. This has not been an elite defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 1 round: OLB 2 round: OLB 3 round: Safety 4 round: RT 5 round: RB 6 round: TE 7 round: GFY Jets should be getting some compensation picks this year, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Jets could do worse, trent is a stud and greene blows Eh. Like Trent, but I'd hate throwing a first rounder at a power back that already has taken a beating, especially one who isn't huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Eh. Like Trent, but I'd hate throwing a first rounder at a power back that already has taken a beating, especially one who isn't huge. "check the biceps bro" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 This defense has never been elite in creating turnovers and forcing sacks. Teams bleed them to death by going over the middle of the field in big spots. This has not been an elite defense Yeah. You put a stud pass rusher on the team and it's elite. A ball hawk safety, too. Good luck finding those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Eh. Like Trent, but I'd hate throwing a first rounder at a power back that already has taken a beating, especially one who isn't huge. Actually Trent carries were limited, 1st 2 years split with Ingram, this year lacey had quite a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I disagree with the criticism of the D. I bet no other D has played as many snaps in the top 5. Our offense is the enemy is that respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I disagree with the criticism of the D. I bet no other D has played as many snaps in the top 5. Our offense is the enemy is that respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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