Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 We can trade Bart Scott for this guy, maybe throw in one of those escalator picks. The Eagles need LBs like there's no tommorrow, and would actually save money by taking on Scott's contract as opposed to paying the franchise tag of $9.4M for their disgruntled reciever. We would have to overpay for another diva. But this guy would push Holmes, scare the **** outta deep safeties and open up our entire running game. Who in their right mind would drop a safety in the box when we have Jackson and Holmes? That means we could play Ground & Pound defense against 7-man fronts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NiIvNkieLs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 While we're at it: Everyone is afraid of our RT position..."Who's going to play, Hunter or Ducasse? they both suck"... "We need to draft"..."We need to sign"... That requires new money, or precious draft picks. Here's an idea, have BOTH Hunter AND Ducasse play RT... at the same time. Ducasse plays the left-half of RT; Hunter plays the right-half of RT or sometimes plays fullback. They can't both suck at blocking one guy. So basically we have a six-man line and run the sh*t outta the ball. We would have Desean Jackson & Santonio Holmes playing outside, with Kerley and Keller subbing in/out of the slot, maybe sometimes put Conner in the slot just to freak D's out. We pretty much run the ball 70% of the time and get 4 yards a pop because Wayne Hunter is running up the middle like a mad Tongan. Then we take our shots downfield when they start to cheat up or bring in bigger tacklers. Both, Jackson & Holmes might only get 3 catches a game...but they would be chunk plays cause both can outrun any safety in our division. Did I mention Desean Jackson plays specials? He could have a Darren Sproles like effect on our team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 They would laugh at Bart Scott and a pick for DeSean, and the idea of six linemen at all times is utterly ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 just what we need, Holmes Jr on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 just what we need, Holmes Jr on the other side. lol, because that's what's wrong with this scenario? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 6 man line? WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 DWC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 . Here's an idea, have BOTH Hunter AND Ducasse play RT... at the same time. Ducasse plays the left-half of RT; Hunter plays the right-half of RT or sometimes plays fullback. They can't both suck at blocking one guy. That is brilliant. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 We can trade Bart Scott for this guy, maybe throw in one of those escalator picks. The Eagles need LBs like there's no tommorrow... It is official: there will be no tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) the idea of six linemen at all times is utterly ridiculous. So was the WildCat at first....2 RBs? Zero QBs? MAdness! Would you prefer Matt Mulligan and the wonders his 5 rec for 58 yards did for us? If you're going to put a blocker out there, put a blocker out there. Edited February 29, 2012 by Greenseed4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 just what we need, Holmes Jr on the other side. There's no way they would BOTH throw a hissy fit at the same time. When one is on the rag, we go to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 He's a perfect fit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Chowds Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I am losing track. Are we still interested in Peyton and Reggie Wayne combo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 It is official: there will be no tomorrow. hahahaa They have a talented D-line, and a star-studded secondary (albiet, one that doesn't like to tackle), but they have a very young core of linebackers who are horrible; they all have either 1 or 2 years of experience in the league, except for Fokou (with 3), and Akeem Jordan-Who? (with 5)...and yet they are still linked to drafting a MLB in the first round. These guys are known for having at least one plodding dinosaur on roster (Jeremiah Trotter, Dhani Jones) and could probably benefit from a little veteran presence at the position Tell me who strikes fear in you the most: -M. Fokou, (and his 22 tackles) -C Matthews (the slow untalented one) -Akeem Jordan (who?) -Keenan Clayton (who?) -Jamar Chaney (By far their most valuable LBer) -Brian Rolle (the least talented of the Rolle cousins) -Bart Scott (Madbacker) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 DWC? No. I've been here a while though, as Greenseed3; then forgot my password, had Max reset my account, then I forgot it again... It's a legitimate post. 1. We need a talented reciever 2. Tanny like to be splashy 3. Desean brings some playmaking speed to our offense. As well as an upgrade to our specials. It's not the most conservative suggestion, but we are "shopping" Bart. Who the **** else needs an aging/declining linebacker with a hefty pricetag? I'm all ears, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 No. I've been here a while though, as Greenseed3; then forgot my password, had Max reset my account, then I forgot it again... It's a legitimate post. 1. We need a talented reciever 2. Tanny like to be splashy 3. Desean brings some playmaking speed to our offense. As well as an upgrade to our specials. It's not the most conservative suggestion, but we are "shopping" Bart. Who the **** else needs an aging/declining linebacker with a hefty pricetag? I'm all ears, guys. Welcome back. Doesnt Jackson want a pile of money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 lol, because that's what's wrong with this scenario? I know it sounds ridiculous. Player-for-Player trades rarely happen anymore in the NFL. But like it's been discussed, ad naseum, who is going to trade a pick for a declining player who costs $4.2MM? I was brainstorming LB-needy teams that have a "headache" player, or an "aging/expensive vet" they're on the hook for...at a position of need. And thought the teams could swap eachother's problems. Perhaps a misfit safety who would be an expensive cap cut? or an oft-injured RT? If you're going to pay the salary, you should at least get a player who would benefit your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Welcome back. Doesnt Jackson want a pile of money? yeah, he actually wants Santonio money, hahahaa and his agent is the famous Drew RosenGoldenSteinBerg but for this year he is willing to play for the tag at $9.4MM; I'm sure Tanny can give him the extension he was bitching about in Philadelphia, something in the neighborhood of $7-8MM/per for five years. The kid wants security & Tanny can give him the false-hope of that. The difference is paying: Bart $4.2MM (to not play) + (Modestly splashy) FA $3MM = the same amount of dough. But the added benefit of not wasting a roster spot. I'm not a numbers guy...but we need a WR, and Braylon scares the sh*t outta me. Who would you be more afraid of facing us with: Holmes and Jackson, or Holmes and Edwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 I am losing track. Are we still interested in Peyton and Reggie Wayne combo ? Gather all of the beasts. Sign them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 While we're at it: Everyone is afraid of our RT position..."Who's going to play, Hunter or Ducasse? they both suck"... "We need to draft"..."We need to sign"... That requires new money, or precious draft picks. Here's an idea, have BOTH Hunter AND Ducasse play RT... at the same time. Ducasse plays the left-half of RT; Hunter plays the right-half of RT or sometimes plays fullback. They can't both suck at blocking one guy. So basically we have a six-man line and run the sh*t outta the ball. We would have Desean Jackson & Santonio Holmes playing outside, with Kerley and Keller subbing in/out of the slot, maybe sometimes put Conner in the slot just to freak D's out. We pretty much run the ball 70% of the time and get 4 yards a pop because Wayne Hunter is running up the middle like a mad Tongan. Then we take our shots downfield when they start to cheat up or bring in bigger tacklers. Both, Jackson & Holmes might only get 3 catches a game...but they would be chunk plays cause both can outrun any safety in our division. Did I mention Desean Jackson plays specials? He could have a Darren Sproles like effect on our team. Get out. No need at an attempt to backpedal out of your utter self fail. Just, get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 hahahaa They have a talented D-line, and a star-studded secondary (albiet, one that doesn't like to tackle), but they have a very young core of linebackers who are horrible; they all have either 1 or 2 years of experience in the league, except for Fokou (with 3), and Akeem Jordan-Who? (with 5)...and yet they are still linked to drafting a MLB in the first round. These guys are known for having at least one plodding dinosaur on roster (Jeremiah Trotter, Dhani Jones) and could probably benefit from a little veteran presence at the position Tell me who strikes fear in you the most: -M. Fokou, (and his 22 tackles) -C Matthews (the slow untalented one) -Akeem Jordan (who?) -Keenan Clayton (who?) -Jamar Chaney (By far their most valuable LBer) -Brian Rolle (the least talented of the Rolle cousins) -Bart Scott (The Old Slow One) . Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Fixed. hahahaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Get out. No need at an attempt to backpedal out of your utter self fail. Just, get out. backpedal? my ideas are clearly far-fetched, but they're consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Nevermind that Jackson is a complete idiot, it simply doesn't make sense from a financial perspective. Doesn't make sense from a philosophical standpoint either. This team is committed to ground and pound and has a mediocre QB at the helm, so why the hell should we tie up roughly $100 million in our starting receivers? Anyone who thinks the Jets are going to have the cap space to get a top tier receiver like Desean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, etc is delusional. We won't even have the money to sign a guy like Robert Meachem or Eddie Royal. The majority of the cash we have to spend is going to be used towards re-signing Pouha. We're not going to have the money to sign anyone but bargain bin players. That's why I like the idea of bringing Braylon back if he's healthy. Our #2 receiver this year is either going to be a rookie or Braylon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 backpedal? my ideas are clearly far-fetched, but they're consistent. While we're at it, why not make it a quarter package. Seven man front!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Nevermind that Jackson is a complete idiot, it simply doesn't make sense from a financial perspective. Doesn't make sense from a philosophical standpoint either. This team is committed to ground and pound and has a mediocre QB at the helm, so why the hell should we tie up roughly $100 million in our starting receivers? Anyone who thinks the Jets are going to have the cap space to get a top tier receiver like Desean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, etc is delusional. We won't even have the money to sign a guy like Robert Meachem or Eddie Royal. The majority of the cash we have to spend is going to be used towards re-signing Pouha. We're not going to have the money to sign anyone but bargain bin players. That's why I like the idea of bringing Braylon back if he's healthy. Our #2 receiver this year is either going to be a rookie or Braylon. Thank you. That is the first legitimate argument to this wonderful idea of mine. Please read ridiculous post #2 within the thread. We need a speedy/viable threat opposite Holmes to make the Ground & Pound effective. Plaxico didn't keep the safeties honest. Holmes was double covered on pretty much every play, defenses were able to drop a safety and we didn't have the blocking prowness to beat an 8-man box. Braylon is totally possible, but what has he done lately? and what if he hurts his toesy again, or gets in another altercation? A Rookie might be able to come-right-in and tear it up but that would probably dictate going WR in the 1st round to be really comfortable with that and that takes away from our other needs. Desean isn't garbage, but he's not in the same category as Colston/VJ/Bowe...Plus the whole appeal to him is really just the dumping of Bart Scott. If Philly doesn't give us a Bart Scott discount in return, then, NO the entire premise of this thread is moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 While we're at it, why not make it a quarter package. Seven man front!!! Wow. you're ummm, something else. Do you mean a seven-man-backfield? WTF does defense have to do with anything we're talking about? (and do you reeeeaaally want to know my ideas for defense? I got the time, buddy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wow. you're ummm, something else. Do you mean a seven-man-backfield? WTF does defense have to do with anything we're talking about? (and do you reeeeaaally want to know my ideas for defense? I got the time, buddy) Your av fits you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Your av fits you. It's funny you said that, I've been trying to change it to a bottle of whisky for twenty minutes now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLguerriero1 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 why not desean for holmes.... we lose our cancer, granted ur pickin up another one.. .but its a different situation and we can play it differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LottsMissingFingerTip Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Sweet!!! Now we can have 2 undersized wr's that cant/won't block for sh*t to go with our new ground n pound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LottsMissingFingerTip Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 why not desean for holmes.... we lose our cancer, granted ur pickin up another one.. .but its a different situation and we can play it differently Less opposed, although I think Jackson will punch Sanchez in the mouth by week 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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