gsnts725 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 theres never ZERO chance w/ the Jets of doing something insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I followed the instructions in the thread title and just took a really nice dump here. Beer $hits are magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 That did it. I think he finally realized he dug himself into a deep hole and decided to stay there. Wow...posting a quote that torpedoes your own argument and not even realizing it. That's new. I suppose he also believe the SAM always plays on the same side of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Good to hear. I'd be willing to move up a few picks if Ingram's available. Otherwise, stay put or trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 That did it. I think he finally realized he dug himself into a deep hole and decided to stay there. Wow...posting a quote that torpedoes your own argument and not even realizing it. That's new. I suppose he also believe the SAM always plays on the same side of the field. LOL!!! Yeah really dug myself into a hole here. You are right. The strong side is the side the TE lines up on. Doesnt matter which side. lol! The RT is the best run blocker on the line. That is why it is called the strong side. Again, when you have a right handed QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 No. Let's try this once more: find the Center on the football field. The strong side is whichever side has more players on their side of the Center. Again, this usually means a TE, but not always. Wow dude. That is NOT the strong side of the field. Its the right side when you have a right handed QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Dude, your quote is explaining that the strong side of the formation is the side where the TE lines up. The fact that most teams have their pass blocking specialist on the left and their road grader on the right is inconsequential. Holy mackerel. Regardless coaches refer to the right side at the strong side. Before you put a TE over there. Its where your road graders are which this college LG is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The strong side of the field is determined by where the tight end lines up...as a defender, if the tight end is to my right, that's the strong side. It's for defensive calls. At least that's how I remember it when I played linebacker/tight end years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 LOL!!! Yeah really dug myself into a hole here. You are right. The strong side is the side the TE lines up on. Doesnt matter which side. lol! The RT is the best run blocker on the line. That is why it is called the strong side. Again, when you have a right handed QB. You can keep repeating this until you're blue in the face, but you will continue to be wrong every time. As slats stated, the skillset of the respective tackles has nothing to do with which side of the formation is referred to as the strong side or weak side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 You can keep repeating this until you're blue in the face, but you will continue to be wrong every time. As slats stated, the skillset of the respective tackles has nothing to do with which side of the formation is referred to as the strong side or weak side. Regardless. The right side is the side that you put your road graders on. This kid is not a road grader. If the Jets draft him to play RT it will be a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Regardless coaches refer to the right side at the strong side. Before you put a TE over there. Its where your road graders are which this college LG is not. Thanks for the excursion on the short bus. Incredible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So you're right and everyone else, including every source cited on the internet, and oh yes, the entire NFL is wrong. I give up on you ever seeing the light, but for anyone else interested, this description is actually a pretty good in-depth description of MLB responsibilities: http://www.footballguys.com/08norton_breaking.php Determining the strong side Its surprising how few people really understand the term "strong side". Every year I have someone ask me why a fantasy productive strong side linebacker is so rare and why then is a strong safety often is at the head of the DB class? Let's start with what determines the strong side of the offensive formation. When the huddle breaks and players come to the line of scrimmage, the defender responsible for making the play call (usually the MLB) must call out the strong side of the formation so that everyone (particularly the front 7) lines up correctly. In the simplest of terms, the strong side can be identified by where the tight end lines up. However, in the pro game it usually isn't quite that simple. Double tight ends, no tight ends, balanced formations, spread formations with the TE lined up in the slot, etc... all make it a little more complicated. The term "strong side" is meant to describe the side of the formation that has the most blockers, therefore that side presents the biggest threat for the defense on a running play. The progression a defensive play caller must go through in a matter of seconds could go like this... A single TE lined up next to the tackle? Easy call. If there are double tight ends or no tight ends (a balanced line), he will look into the backfield for a single running back lined up to one side of the QB. With two backs in the backfield, and the tailback behind the QB and a fullback to either side, the fullback side is the strong side. If the backs are split behind the QB (pro-formation) or in a straight line directly behind the QB (I-formation), the play caller looks to the receivers. In short yardage we often see double TE, I-formation with strong side determined by a third TE or receiver lined up slightly behind and outside at one end, or split wide. In a three receiver set with both the line and backfield balanced, the slot receiver becomes the determining factor. Last but not least, if the line, backfield and receivers are balanced, the wide side of the field is considered strong. There are some situational and/or scheme related exceptions to these general rules but these are the most common reads or progressions for defensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Regardless coaches refer to the right side at the strong side. Before you put a TE over there. Its where your road graders are which this college LG is not. No. But the only reason I'm responding again is because I'm amazed that you're still arguing and want to see if you'll continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So you're right and everyone else, including every source cited on the internet, and oh yes, the entire NFL is wrong. I give up on you ever seeing the light, but for anyone else interested, this description is actually a pretty good in-depth description of MLB responsibilities: Did you get the part about the RT being the better run blocker? Or did you miss the whole point of the discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Nope...you're not going to pretend the entertaining half of this thread didn't happen. We still have 3 hours to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Nope...you're not going to pretend the entertaining half of this thread didn't happen. We still have 3 hours to kill. It doesnt really matter dude The whole point was that the run blocking side is the right side. Kill me on the TE thing all you want to. Your run heavy side is your right side with a right handed QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yes, I'm sure the Jets are divulging all of their information to Sal Paolantonio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm not trying to be mean - but how much football do you watch? I coach junior football, particularly linebacker and o-line. I've done so for years. I know the X's and O's and wouldn't be calling you out on it except that you were a bit condescending toward my explanations. Right vs. left there are some tendencies. It doesn't matter which hand the QB favors per se, but that the blind side is covered by your best pass blocking tackle. for obvious reasons. that the leaves the other tackle, usually the right, to be the second best pass blocking tackle on the team. Which is why he is a more run-oriented guy generally. But not always. I put my best pulling guard on the right to get outside the tackle on wide plays because the RT is usually a bit slower than the LT and the pulling guard can get an edge if he's quick enough. Road graders are usually guard-to-guard including the center at times, but usually just guards that are a bit shorter and stouter with thick lower bodies and a bit of get-off. Generally, thay can be as atheltic or more athletic than tackles, but lack th height needed on the end of the line. Either way, DeCastro is actually a prototype RT and is actually a bit too tall to play guard by general standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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