Klecko73isGod Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Whose fault is that? Rule # 1, never believe one word out of Rexs mouth unless snacks are involved. I would like to announce that I am using all of my allotment of negative rep for you since you suck at trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Is Gholston still in that Terrell Suggs lookalike program? BRUCE IRVIN SMEAR CAMPAIGN. ENGAGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 i saw Melvin Ingram and Quinton Coples on the same field, going through the same drills. I don't know how Ingram can be considered the superior prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Well, if Rex did want him I can see why. He has a bullrush, can go inside or outside and has a powerful grip. Kid was making sacks with one hand. Oh, and he ran a 4.43 at the combine. pretty freakish. Seattle got away with one from the looks of it. Wow, embellish much? Irvin is a one-trick pony. He ran a 4.5 not 4.43. He will play DE for the Hawks at 245, so good luck with "bull rushing" NFL tackles, Bruce. Powerful grip? What's that for? This is not some corny arm wrestling Stallone movie, although the title of that movie certainly fits well with your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Then: So interestingly, the Jets did the OPPOSITE of the thing that would have been "noteworthy" and by doing so became.... "noteworthy"? Screw you Florio. And what if Coples is the boom and Irvin is a bust? I suppose we won't hear anything from you about that, will we? Florio is an uber-douche who has unfortunately been legitimized by NBC. Prior to them hiring him as their "insider" he was just a dickhead with a blog that most people considered to be the National Inquirer of pro football. His site hasn't improved and for the most part all his "writers" do is paraphrase articles that appear in more legitimate places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Regardless of whether or not you think this should be taken to mean anything, the constant changing of the criteria needed by some to discredit this asinine little storyline is beyond ridiculous. No matter how many things come about saying the exact opposite of this whole Irvin nonsense, none of it counts for one simple reason, in order to justify to continue hating on the Jets for something that all but one source seems to say wasn't true. First it was a matter of one report coming out and despite it not being supported by anyone else, it was gold because there was no reports refuting it (and more importantly, because it made the Jets look bad). Then the original source of the report even came back to clarify that he felt there were incorrect conclusions being reached in the re-reporting of his comments by others. After that, another report came out saying the Jets had no interest in Irvin at that spot in the draft. So then suddenly, other reports refuting the original report was no longer enough, so the next set of criteria became that it still has to be true if the Jets aren't willing to publicly deny the reports. And then they do just that, and now it's "obviously" a lie. There's plenty of legitimate reasons to take issue with things the Jets have done, but some people are so unbelievably desperate to bitch and moan about every single thing imaginable that they have to fabricate reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 BRUCE IRVIN SMEAR CAMPAIGN. ENGAGE. CAMPAGNA DU SHMEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Wow, embellish much? Irvin is a one-trick pony. He ran a 4.5 not 4.43. He will play DE for the Hawks at 245, so good luck with "bull rushing" NFL tackles, Bruce. Powerful grip? What's that for? This is not some corny arm wrestling Stallone movie, although the title of that movie certainly fits well with your post. When I turn the hat around, it's like a switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Regardless of whether or not you think this should be taken to mean anything, the constant changing of the criteria needed by some to discredit this asinine little storyline is beyond ridiculous. No matter how many things come about saying the exact opposite of this whole Irvin nonsense, none of it counts for one simple reason, in order to justify to continue hating on the Jets for something that all but one source seems to say wasn't true. First it was a matter of one report coming out and despite it not being supported by anyone else, it was gold because there was no reports refuting it (and more importantly, because it made the Jets look bad). Then the original source of the report even came back to clarify that he felt there were incorrect conclusions being reached in the re-reporting of his comments by others. After that, another report came out saying the Jets had no interest in Irvin at that spot in the draft. So then suddenly, other reports refuting the original report was no longer enough, so the next set of criteria became that it still has to be true if the Jets aren't willing to publicly deny the reports. And then they do just that, and now it's "obviously" a lie. There's plenty of legitimate reasons to take issue with things the Jets have done, but some people are so unbelievably desperate to bitch and moan about every single thing imaginable that they have to fabricate reasons. Excellent post. This is a Jets fan site, right? Why do so many here reflexively believe anything negative about this team and automatically refute anything positive. It really is friggin' weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Excellent post. This is a Jets fan site, right? Why do so many here reflexively believe anything negative about this team and automatically refute anything positive. It really is friggin' weird. #rexfx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 LMAO!!! YES!! That's the liar he was talking about I think. lol. I think so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Wow, embellish much? Irvin is a one-trick pony. He ran a 4.5 not 4.43. He will play DE for the Hawks at 245, so good luck with "bull rushing" NFL tackles, Bruce. Powerful grip? What's that for? This is not some corny arm wrestling Stallone movie, although the title of that movie certainly fits well with your post. Everything else you said is opinion which is cool, though you must have felt good putting all that together with Stallone, the movie and all. It was cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 The Jets were clearly making speed a priority in draft with guys like Davis and the UDFA Dowtin, so I would imagine that Irvin was heavily considered. Whether they saw him as a first round talent is anyone's guess. What I think is fairly evident is that Seattle thought there was a good chance the Jets were taking him by the way they moved around on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 The Jets were clearly making speed a priority in draft with guys like Davis and the UDFA Dowtin, so I would imagine that Irvin was heavily considered. Whether they saw him as a first round talent is anyone's guess. What I think is fairly evident is that Seattle thought there was a good chance the Jets were taking him by the way they moved around on draft day. I think it's a bit of a stretch to call that "fairly evident". Seattle traded down, not up, to end up in front of the Jets. It could rather easily be that them ending up in that spot had nothing to do with the Jets, but rather it being their best trade offer. After all, in order for that move to even happen, the Eagles had to be interested in making the move up to begin with. If the Seahawks were so worried about the Jets taking Irvin, I'm not sure they would have made it so easy for the Jets to jump them if they really wanted, considering the Jets would have only had to move up 2 spots. Don't get me wrong, I suppose it's possible, but it's far from a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I would like to announce that I am using all of my allotment of negative rep for you since you suck at trolling. Youre still a Stalker. Mel Kiper called the decision of the Seahawks to take West Virginia defensive end Bruce Irvin with the 15th pick in the draft “mind boggling.” It shouldn’t have been. Per a league source, at least seven teams had Irvin rated as one of the top 15 players available in the draft. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/at-least-seve-teams-had-bruce-irvin-in-top-15/ The Jets wanted Irvin. Hes just the type of pick the Jets make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 The Jets wanted Irvin. Hes just the type of pick the Jets make. And your basis for this is what exactly? The Jets first round picks since Tanny took over have been: Brick Mangold Revis Gholston Keller Sanchez Wilson Wilkerson Please indulge us on how exactly these picks have oh so much in common with the possible pick of a guy like Irvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 And your basis for this is what exactly? The Jets first round picks since Tanny took over have been: Brick Mangold Revis Gholston Keller Sanchez Wilson Wilkerson Please indulge us on how exactly these picks have oh so much in common with the possible pick of a guy like Irvin. They're all good players outside of Gholston?????? Maybe he thinks Irvin is a good player. I wouldnt have mind them taking Irvin, just not in the 1st or 2nd round. If he was there in the 3rd then you pull the trigger. Of course that wasnt the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harts724 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 At this point does it really fkn matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 And your basis for this is what exactly? The Jets first round picks since Tanny took over have been: Brick Mangold Revis Gholston Keller Sanchez Wilson Wilkerson Please indulge us on how exactly these picks have oh so much in common with the possible pick of a guy like Irvin. Moe Wilky and Keller were obscure. Ducasse was too. Woodhead wasnt drafted but the Jets found him. Im willing to bet that the Irvin turns into a Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 going back to Kiper, I kind of agree with him. Ingram made more sense. We JUST drafted DE and DT with our top two picks last year. Our needs for three straight years have been OLB, Safetly and Oline. Ingram or DeCastro were the smart picks. Coples is a raw prospect DE. WTF? Still think he'll be good. And Irvin never entered the picture IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 going back to Kiper, I kind of agree with him. Ingram made more sense. We JUST drafted DE and DT with our top two picks last year. Our needs for three straight years have been OLB, Safetly and Oline. Ingram or DeCastro were the smart picks. Coples is a raw prospect DE. WTF? Still think he'll be good. And Irvin never entered the picture IMHO. I think the Jets like Maybin, who's added a few pounds in hopes of seeing his role increase. I also think they're leery about drafting a DE to play OLB after the Gholston disaster. They'll have to do it eventually, but right now could see Coples as the safer pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Everything else you said is opinion which is cool, though you must have felt good putting all that together with Stallone, the movie and all. It was cute. Official time is 4.5, but fun video. He's fast, I get it. But he really is 245, that is not just my opinion. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/bruce-irvin?id=2532871 You give me way too much credit though. You set it up on a platter for me. Glad you liked it, but it was no sweat, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Can anyone imagine Irvin and Maybin being our two primary pass rushers? For a 3-4 D that seems a little light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Official time is 4.5, but fun video. He's fast, I get it. But he really is 245, that is not just my opinion. http://www.nfl.com/c...rvin?id=2532871 You give me way too much credit though. You set it up on a platter for me. Glad you liked it, but it was no sweat, really. lol. Like I said, it was cute. When you did it I was like "I walked right into that sh*t". lmao. And I didnt mean his weight when I meant your opinion, I meant the one trick pony comment. I thought so too when I seen him, but I checked out other vids and the kid has skill. Also, his first 4.5 40 was unofficial. The bottomline is that the kid is fast, being off by .07 seconds "officially" doesnt change that...especially when it was the 4.43 unofficial number that probably got him drafted in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Youre still a Stalker. Mel Kiper called the decision of the Seahawks to take West Virginia defensive end Bruce Irvin with the 15th pick in the draft “mind boggling.” It shouldn’t have been. Per a league source, at least seven teams had Irvin rated as one of the top 15 players available in the draft. http://profootballta...rvin-in-top-15/ The Jets wanted Irvin. Hes just the type of pick the Jets make. You're actually quoting PFT as a source? You're a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Moe Wilky and Keller were obscure. Ducasse was too. Woodhead wasnt drafted but the Jets found him. Im willing to bet that the Irvin turns into a Beast. Mo Wilk and Keller were only obscure if you don't follow college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Moe Wilky and Keller were obscure. Ducasse was too. All of this is completely false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 All of this is completely false. It's not just that he's a troll, it's that he's bad at trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I think the Jets like Maybin, who's added a few pounds in hopes of seeing his role increase. I also think they're leery about drafting a DE to play OLB after the Gholston disaster. They'll have to do it eventually, but right now could see Coples as the safer pick. I think you hit the nail on the head. This is why I want to go back to the 4-3. You find yourself giving up good players (Vilma) to adjust to the 3-4 but even crazier you simply cant draft any good OLB. You always have to find some special one of a kind "hybrid" player to play the position, which is asking to be even more precise (and correct) when drafting. It does nothing but limit your picks from a collection of good players. Pierre Paul is a beast yet he probably wouldnt work in a 3-4 because he's too small to play DE and may not be able to cover as a OLB or even play standing up for that matter. I dont see the 3-4 having such an advantage especially when 4-3 teams are still winning championships (While shutting down brady to do so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 All of this is completely false. Wilky was a sleeper until the combine. Small school like Ducasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 You're actually quoting PFT as a source? You're a joke. Youre a stalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Youre a stalker. No, I am a Jets fan talking about the Jets on a Jets message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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