BlackDynamite Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 The Jets carried 10 in their secondary last year, six CBs and 4 safeties. This is fairly standard in the NFL, as you will see more and more "Nickel" packages, with more passing and less running offenses in the NFL than ever before. They picked up two FA safeties in LaRon Landry and Yeramiah Bell, and signed two rookie safeties in the draft in Antonio Allen and Josh Bush. They will join incumbent, and the new QB of the secondary, Eric Smith ALL the safeties could be considered "Box" safeties except for Josh Bell, and converted CB who has 6 INTs last year in his new role. Expect him to be a virtual lock to make the 53-man roster due to his ability to play two positions, and him being the best safety on the team when it comes to coverage skills. Plus he costs virtually nothing. Landry is still recovering from his Achilles injury, and the Jets are optimistic he will be ready for the Season Opener, but they are far from 100%. Hence the Bell signing....... Here is the ten the Jets carried last year: DB (10): Darrelle Revis, Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson, Marquice Cole,Donald Strickland, Eric Smith, Jim Leonhard, Brodney Pool, Emanuel Cook, Isiah Trufant So the question is: It is HIGHLY unlikely the Jets will carry only 5 DBs, while carrying 5 safeties. Who doesn't make the cut? Who will learn to say "Practice Squad"? BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachelors3 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Does this mean Jim Leonard is no longer a Jet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 He hasn't been a Jet since the season ended And let's just say he wasn't first on their list to resign....... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombdirt Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Ideally: they're planning on running some creative blitz packages. Realistically: cuts will be made. Personally: I really hope Landry works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 At $3M+, the Jets are counting on it..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Cimmini said Bell was brought in to start and you gotta think Landry is a lock to start too. So it looks like Bell and Landry will start and after that it gets a little cloudy but I could see a situation where Smith gets cut because of how much he gets paid or maybe one of the rookies go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Cimmini said Bell was brought in to start and you gotta think Landry is a lock to start too. So it looks like Bell and Landry will start and after that it gets a little cloudy but I could see a situation where Smith gets cut because of how much he gets paid or maybe one of the rookies go. Highly unlikely that Smith would get cut. The coaching staff really seems to like him and they go out of their way to say he was hurt last year. To answer BD's original question, what will they do with all these safeties? Hopefully cover a tight end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 On the eve of camp the Jets have one more safety than you expect to carry for the season and it's "all these safeties"? Landry is a lock to not last 16 and allegedly not ready to work. What are they going to do? Sign 3 or 4 more most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Who will learn to say "Practice Squad"? I assume all of them, since it's only three syllables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 The answer is....... Starters will be Landry and Smith, PROVIDED Landry is healthy. If not, Bell will replace Landry. (Yes, the Jets are worried about Landry's health, that's why they got Bell. Sparano had a hand in that too....) Smith is THE ONLY safety who knows the defense, inside and out, so he will be out there Opening Day, whether you like it or not..... On 3rd and long, expect to see plenty of Josh Bush, as he is the best coverage safety. Antonio Allen may end up on PS, if I had to bet who is the odd man out. They won't carry 5 safeties on the roster..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 On 3rd and long, expect to see plenty of Josh Bush, as he is the best coverage safety. Antonio Allen may end up on PS, if I had to bet who is the odd man out. They won't carry 5 safeties on the roster..... BD I don't know if we'll see plenty of Bush, but I do like his chances of making the roster better than Allen. Allen is physically very similar to Smith, Landry, and Bell, Bush is more of a 'tweener in the mold of Dwight Lowery - who I think they regret trading. But for those guys, it'll ultimately come down to what they are capable of producing on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I don't think Smith is a lock to make the team. But the most likely scenario is that Landry is hurt and this conversation is rendered moot. I have to add that I wonder why the Jets would sign Landry after the whole Jenkins thing. The chances that Landry makes it through a full NFL season is not good. So why rely on him? It doesn't feel like the right move. At least in this case we didn't trade picks - and have a plan B in Bell and the rookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I don't know if we'll see plenty of Bush, but I do like his chances of making the roster better than Allen. Allen is physically very similar to Smith, Landry, and Bell, Bush is more of a 'tweener in the mold of Dwight Lowery - who I think they regret trading. But for those guys, it'll ultimately come down to what they are capable of producing on special teams. Yep. Bush is not a LOCK to make the roster, but because of his skills he has a decent chance. Remember there is a reason he is such a late round pick. IMO the signing of Bell indicates that the Jets have big doubts about Landry. If you notice, he doesn't seem to be made available to the media. When healthy he is kind of a star and a bit of a loose cannon. Would think the press would want to talk to him. I have a bad feeling that the Jets are VERY concerned about his health for the season. That's why Bell was signed at this point. If Bush makes the 53 it is possible he takes one of the CB's spot. Landry's health is the key. Looks like Leonard is done with the Jets unless something else weird happens. Like Landry being put on IR, or depending how his contract is structured, released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Reports are that Bell was signed as a starter. Landry will make more than Bell if healthy, so one would assume he is the other starter. Smith will be the top reserve, and he is guaranteed a roster spot because he is the only current safety on the roster that knows the D and because of his contributions on STs. Leonhard is the wildcard here, as it would not surprise me if they bring him in as a coach on the field. From there you have a battle between Bush, Allen, Tracy Wilson, DeAngelo Smith, and D'Anton Lynn for two spots max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 The Jets probably had to promise Bell that he would play a lot/start to get him. The Eagles and Chiefs wanted him too. Of course he picked the Jets over them, but having two starting safeties who are both new to the defense is asking for trouble. I think Smith should start the season as a starter, and then as everybody gets acclimated to the defense after 3-4 games, another starter will emerge.... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 They will join incumbent, and the new QB of the secondary, Eric Smith Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Bell is a solid pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I think either 2 things happen: 1-they keep 5 because of Landry's injury history. 2-Josh Bush gets put on PS, which I think is most likely. I think he's going to be physically overwhelmed in the pros. Wouldn't mind seeing Smith get cut, just so Rex doesn't get tempted to put him back out there as a starter. But I think he's too valuable as a STer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 The chances of the Jets putting their best coverage safety on PS is about the same as the Jets cutting the only safety who knows the defense..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I love that we went from having trash @ Safety to having too many options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I love that we went from having trash @ Safety to having too many options I'm not so sure that we still don't have trash. Nobody giving Landry anything more than a 1 year deal and now all the recent sh*t are not good signs at all. Bell isn't terrible but he isn't very good either. It's kind bizarre that with a full offseason and draft, Smith may very well still be the best safety on the roster. And that's by no means a compliment towards him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 It's kind bizarre that with a full offseason and draft, Smith may very well still be the best safety on the roster. And that's by no means a compliment towards him. BG comin yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 BG comin yo. I suppose the Jets medical staff gets the benefit of the doubt. They're the best in the league at what they do, but so far Landry's passed all the smell tests. It's hard to be optimistic at this point when it comes to him. They gave Bell twice the vet minimum and guaranteed it. That's not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 i could see them carrying 5 safeties. 4 clearly wasn't enough last year. Besides Landry, who isn't healthy right now, Eric Smith has a questionable injury history as well (concussions, knee). Bell in ancient. SO maybe 5 is the right number? also should be noted Antonio Allen is not a lock to make the team. He needs a champion in westoff and best case he replaces Emmanuel Cook's old role ST dynamo. 7th rounders have been cut as rookies under the tannenbaum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I suppose the Jets medical staff gets the benefit of the doubt. They're the best in the league at what they do, but so far Landry's passed all the smell tests. It's hard to be optimistic at this point when it comes to him. They gave Bell twice the vet minimum and guaranteed it. That's not a good sign. Yeah. It's not good. Everybody we have is hurt or a rookie or bad or all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Yeah. It's not good. Everybody we have is hurt or a rookie or bad or all three. Tss sounds like having so many safeties is so that there's safety net or sumthin. Tss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 landry may not be healthy, and 2 6th rd picks don't count so that leaves bell and smith lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 I expect a better than normal rookie season for Josh Bush. He will be given plenty of opportunities to make plays in coverage...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 The chances of the Jets putting their best coverage safety on PS is about the same as the Jets cutting the only safety who knows the defense..... BD I expect a better than normal rookie season for Josh Bush. He will be given plenty of opportunities to make plays in coverage...... BD It's cool to have high hopes for a rookie, but anointing him the best coverage safety on the squad is a bit soon. I understand he has played corner and projects as a quality coverage safety, but he has yet to play a down. He played at wake forest. Not exactly facing NFL qbs on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Jets probably will release a couple of those crappy nickels we have, to save our rookie safeties azzes. Bush may end up a corner if Allen is the better safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 If Bush makes the roster, he will probably be the 6th CB, and the 5th safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 Ryno When is the last time any of the others had 6 INTs in 13 games? Round about NEVER. I'm betting on the one who has produced..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Bush is the only one with cover skills out of the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I expect a better than normal rookie season for Josh Bush. He will be given plenty of opportunities to make plays in coverage...... BD Bush is the only one with cover skills out of the lot. Bush does have more cover skills, but if they value that trait then why didn't the team go after any legit safeties with cover skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 Dom So he had 6 INTs last year, but he's not a legit safety. Thanks for sharing..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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