faba Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 This right now is a great story of perserverance and remaking yourself. 9 and 1 baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Back to Back 1 hitters 4 walks 25 Ks -- 11-1 I hope he keeps it going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Amazing he is leading league in K's - when did you think a knuckleball pitcher would ever do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 So I know I'm being a homer and all with this, but if he can go into the break with 13, I'd say 25 wins is pretty feasible at this point. Particularly if it's a tight race down the stretch, since he's a knuckleballer, I could see Collins using him on shorter rest a couple times to lock up one of the wild cards. And that's not even counting what the divisional possibilities could be if Washington really does stay true to their word and shuts Strasburg down. Regardless, I was 4 when Doc won 24 and the Cy. This is pretty ****ing awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 So I know I'm being a homer and all with this, but if he can go into the break with 13, I'd say 25 wins is pretty feasible at this point. Particularly if it's a tight race down the stretch, since he's a knuckleballer, I could see Collins using him on shorter rest a couple times to lock up one of the wild cards. And that's not even counting what the divisional possibilities could be if Washington really does stay true to their word and shuts Strasburg down. Regardless, I was 4 when Doc won 24 and the Cy. This is pretty ****ing awesome. Jesus man, calm down. I'm excited about R.A. too, but as EY always says, "numbers always regress to the mean." Also, "symbolic penis." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Jesus man, calm down. I'm excited about R.A. too, but as EY always says, "numbers always regress to the mean." Also, "symbolic penis." Wakefield had a similar first half in 95, needless to say, regression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Jesus man, calm down. I'm excited about R.A. too, but as EY always says, "numbers always regress to the mean." Also, "symbolic penis." I have no clue if this is serious or not, but if it is then I don't think you know what a mean is within the context of a regression equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I have no clue if this is serious or not, but if it is then I don't think you know what a mean is within the context of a regression equation. I think you're just experiencing cognitive dissonance. Also, I'm worried about you getting your hopes up for a player on your favorite sh*tty team. Personally, it worries me that so much of the Mets' success is dependent on a knuckleballer, which is such a volatile role to begin with. I don't expect him to win the Cy Young when all is said and done, and wouldn't be surprised if he ends up 4th or 5th in the running. Meanwhile, the Mets will end up around .500, not in the division or wild card running as you so hopefully suggest. The fact that R.A. has 13 wins and Cliff Lee has 0 kind of sums up my argument here. Its too long of a season and we've been burned far too many times as Mets fans to let our hopes get this high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I think you're just experiencing cognitive dissonance. Oh shut up. If you want to argue I'm acting like a homer that's fine considering I started off the post with it. Dickey doesn't even have a mean to base the argument you're trying to make off of and hinting that statistical regression takes precedent regardless of indirect effects is not only stupid but outright clueless from an equation standpoint. Especially considering every factor that's gone into Dickey's season. I'm not bitonti, don't give me the 'you didn't think about what you said before you said it' treatment. You know me better than that. Regression doesn't happen in a vacuum with stochastic data; this isn't 'Nam, there are rules. Also, I'm worried about you getting your hopes up for a player on your favorite sh*tty team. Personally, it worries me that so much of the Mets' success is dependent on a knuckleballer, which is such a volatile role to begin with. I don't expect him to win the Cy Young when all is said and done, and wouldn't be surprised if he ends up 4th or 5th in the running. Meanwhile, the Mets will end up around .500, not in the division or wild card running as you so hopefully suggest. The fact that R.A. has 13 wins and Cliff Lee has 0 kind of sums up my argument here. Its too long of a season and we've been burned far too many times as Mets fans to let our hopes get this high. Of course I'm getting my hopes up, I'm a ****ing fan and I like enjoying sports. If they crash I'll be cool with it not only because it certainly wouldn't be a first for me, but also because I had zero hopes for this season to begin with and I have a ton of faith in Sandy for the long run. That said, the Lee and Wakefield references are so falsely equivalent from a syllogistic standpoint. Just stop it. None have anything to do with the other. You don't get to try to use the concept of correlation to support one thing and then just ignore it from another. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 So I just looked at his stats. Everyone knows it is an amazing year for him. Just crazy that he is 11 games over .500 this year and that puts him at 2 over for his career. If that ever happened to a 37 year old pitcher before, I would be surprised. Great story though, I am rooting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 JonEJet is his biggest fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Regression. Bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 Back to leading the league in wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Entirely plausible that he can keep going for another 7-8 years, like the Niekros, Charlie Hough, Wakefield-effective well into his 40s. A great story, and seems to be a good guy who's lived through some difficult times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Entirely plausible that he can keep going for another 7-8 years, like the Niekros, Charlie Hough, Wakefield-effective well into his 40s. A great story, and seems to be a good guy who's lived through some difficult times. Define effective. He had one 'decent' year in his last six (39yo to 44yo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Define effective. He had one 'decent' year in his last six (39yo to 44yo). nd Historically knuckleballers mature late and then milk out a solid career. Dickey is a sharp guy and stays in great shape. The money is a heck of an incentive. . There's no reason he canon be Tim Wakefield, if way more effective, for the better part of a decade.As awful ask Wakefileld may have been, he ate innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Historically knuckleballers mature late and then milk out a solid career. Dickey is a sharp guy and stays in great shape. The money is a heck of an incentive. . There's no reason he canon be Tim Wakefield, if way more effective, for the better part of a decade.As awful ask Wakefileld may have been, he ate innings. Probably so...I doubt Wake ever approached 80 with his fastball much less his knuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I love the smell of regression in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I love the smell of regression in the morning. Yeah so I was wrong. Not about the Mets coming back to earth but certainly about Dickey. Dickey is now two wins shy in his attempt to become the Mets' first 20-game winner since Frank Viola in 1990. He is expected to get five more starts in September to try and attain that goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Yeah so I was wrong. Not about the Mets coming back to earth but certainly about Dickey. A quick tip on how regression works; for numbers to regress back to their mean, a mean has to actually exist first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 A quick tip on how regression works; for numbers to regress back to their mean, a mean has to actually exist first. Yeah, ok. Quit rubbing it in. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 Come on Dickey for Cy Young! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Come on Dickey for Cy Young! I really hope they don't hand the award to Clayton Kershaw, Gio Gonzalez or Johnny Cueto. Cain and Bumgarner have been getting roughed up a bit lately so they seem to be out of the running. At this point in the season, Dickey has won 18 of the Mets' 65 games (28 %). That's phenomenal. Here's how Dickey looks compared to the rest of MLB's pitchers in that category: R.A. Dickey: 28 % (18/65) Lucas Harrell: 24 % (10/42) Jered Weaver: 22 % (16/74) Gio Gonzalez: 21 % (18/84) Cole Hamels: 21 % (14/66) Jason Vargas: 21 % (14/67) Yovani Gallardo: 21 % (14/67) Wade Miley: 21 % (14/68) AJ Burnett: 21 % (15/72) Max Scherzer: 21 % (15/73) Johnny Cueto: 20 % (17/83) Chris Sale: 20 % (15/74) Mark Beuhrle: 20 % (12/60) Scott Diamond: 20 % (11/56) Felix Hernandez: 19 % (13/67) Kyle Lohse: 19 % (14/74) Matt Harrison: 19 % (15/81) Clayton Richard: 19 % (12/64) Justin Verlander: 18 % (13/73) Zack Greinke: 18 % (13/74) Lance Lynn: 18 % (13/74) Jake Westbrook: 18 % (13/74) Madison Bumgarner: 18 % (14/77) Stephen Strasburg: 18 % (15/84) Adam Wainwright: 18 % (13/74) Ian Kennedy: 18 % (12/68) James Shields: 17 % (13/75) Yu Darvish: 17 % (14/81) Matt Cain: 17 % (13/77) Tim Hudson: 17 % (13/77) C.C. Sabathia: 17 % (13/77) Hiroki Kuroda: 17 %: (13/77) Phil Hughes: 17 % (13/77) James McDonald: 17 % (12/72) Clayton Kershaw: 16 % (12/73) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 He might get the sympathy vote for all that he has gone through to get where he is as a help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 He might get the sympathy vote for all that he has gone through to get where he is as a help it might be a good time for Wayne Coffey and the Daily News to start writing about the sexual abuse and how the Rangers cut his signing bonus to remind people of the struggles he has faced in life.... might help his cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Dickey won hsi 20th this afternoon. In a sea of suckitude that is the Mets, he has done a remarkable job. Figure he gets rewarded by the WIlpons by first being lowballed on a contract, treated like day-old meat and then dealt for someone else's 5th and 8th best pitching prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Dickey won hsi 20th this afternoon. In a sea of suckitude that is the Mets, he has done a remarkable job. Figure he gets rewarded by the WIlpons by first being lowballed on a contract, treated like day-old meat and then dealt for someone else's 5th and 8th best pitching prospects. Yeah they have already said no interest in pursuing any of the FA outfielders and that they intend to fill the outfield via trades...lol. Not sure who other than their pitching, Wright and Ike are attractive to anyone. IMO they have to keep their pitching, Ike and Wright. Unless they make a FA splash next year will be a repeat of this one. Congrats to Dickey though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetcane Redux Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Dickey for Cy Young! That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 Congrats Dickey well deserved honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Congrats Dickey well deserved honor Gio Gonzalez. Dickey was a good story, but Gio was dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Wooohoooo!!!!! The Mets have something to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Great story and well deserved award. He was the best pitcher in NL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 To see aperson overcome obstacles and succeed is great and he deserved this award. He won 20 on a lousy team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 To see aperson overcome obstacles and succeed is great and he deserved this award. He won 20 on a lousy team I agree, but that shouldn't be a part of the award. Dickey pitched very well this season. Was he the best? Very debateable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 As a national league guy he was the best-I follow the Mets and can tell you practically all his starts were high quality starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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