Blackout Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8300112/boston-red-sox-adrian-gonzalez-headed-los-angeles-dodgers-sources-say this is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 White people crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 http://espn.go.com/b...ers-sources-say this is great If the Sox divest themselves of all of the reported players, they will free up around 60 million in salary (minus whatever they eat for getting rid of Beckett). That is a good start at the rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Beckett, Gonzo and Crawford? Go Magic Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 De La Rosa, Loney and prospects for Beckett, Gonzo and Crawford? With the Dodgers paying most of the salaries. Time to rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Huge victory for Bobby V. Probably trade Pedroia in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Huge victory for Bobby V. Probably trade Pedroia in the offseason. That will never happen. Sox needed to hit a reset button. So glad Punto will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 yeah Pedroia is a bad guy, they need to get rid of him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 yeah Pedroia is a bad guy, they need to get rid of him too. Oh you know him personally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Yeah but their new team bus is smokin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 That will never happen. Sox needed to hit a reset button. So glad Punto will be gone. So if the trade goes through.... We are looking at this for 2013: C; Salty/Lavarnaway 1B: Lomey 2B: Pedroia SS: Circiao/Iglesias 3B: Middlebrooks LF; Sweeey/Kalish/Nava CF: Els RF: Sweeey/Kalish/Nava DH: Ortiz (assuming he re-signs). SP: Lester, Bucholz, Dubront, Morales, De La Rosa, Lackey Closer: TBD Yeesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 So if the trade goes through.... We are looking at this for 2013: C; Salty/Lavarnaway 1B: Lomey 2B: Pedroia SS: Circiao/Iglesias 3B: Middlebrooks LF; Sweeey/Kalish/Nava CF: Els RF: Sweeey/Kalish/Nava DH: Ortiz (assuming he re-signs). SP: Lester, Bucholz, Dubront, Morales, De La Rosa, Lackey Closer: TBD Yeesh! I'm pretty sure they're going to resign Cody Ross. And Bailey will be the closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Loney is a free agent so who knows who will be at first. Plus remember how much money this is saving them. Dodgers reportedly taking on 96% of the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 Oh you know him personally? yes, he did unspeakable things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I'm pretty sure they're going to resign Cody Ross. And Bailey will be the closer. Forgot about Bailey. I would not mind Ross back as a back-up/spot starter, but not as a full-time guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Forgot about Bailey. I would not mind Ross back as a back-up/spot starter, but not as a full-time guy. Probably bring him back to platoon with Kalish or Sweeney. Re-sign Papi is a definite now. Gotta find a way to get ris of Lackey too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Probably bring him back to platoon with Kalish or Sweeney. Re-sign Papi is a definite now. Gotta find a way to get rid of Lackey too. No doubt. Even if Lomey resigns, this team is going to have to scratch out runs. So, those pitchers better get their heads on right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 That will never happen. Sox needed to hit a reset button. So glad Punto will be gone. Agreed, he's done zilch for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 No doubt. Even if Lomey resigns, this team is going to have to scratch out runs. So, those pitchers better get their heads on right. They've got 8 already tonite. So far, so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Probably bring him back to platoon with Kalish or Sweeney. Re-sign Papi is a definite now. Gotta find a way to get ris of Lackey too. I just read that Lackey took over Beckett's locker. I didn't think he was going to be on the roster at all this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 They've got 8 already tonite. So far, so good. It is the Royals. Even though the Sox are closer to the Royals than the Orioles and third place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 A-GONE WITH A HOMER IN HIS FIRST AT-BAT IN LA! i swear this Gonzo guy is going to one of the best 1st basemen in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 That was a great, great trade for LA. I mocked them earlier in the year, but they've officially earned some points as a team trying to be a boss. Next will be the billion dollar TV deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 That was a great, great trade for LA. I mocked them earlier in the year, but they've officially earned some points as a team trying to be a boss. Next will be the billion dollar TV deal. It was pretty good for the Sox as well. They save a net of 264 million over the next few years. They now have a hair under 60 million in salary space the next two seasons and 40 million a year the three years after that. An all they are eating is 11 million in cash. Plus, they get two 22yo good to very good pitching prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 OMG, Gonzo just flew out in the bottom of the 8th!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 OMG, Gonzo just flew out in the bottom of the 8th!!!!!! It was not part of God's plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 It was pretty good for the Sox as well. They save a net of 264 million over the next few years. They now have a hair under 60 million in salary space the next two seasons and 40 million a year the three years after that. An all they are eating is 11 million in cash. Plus, they get two 22yo good to very good pitching prospects. Meh, the accomplished what they wanted - to get worse but save money doing it. Now trade the Cubs Ellsbury, Pedroia, Miller, and Bard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Meh, the accomplished what they wanted - to get worse but save money doing it. Now trade the Cubs Ellsbury, Pedroia, Miller, and Bard. There is no way they trade Bard or Pedroia. Ellsbuey maybe if they cannot extend him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Why not? Pedroia is a Theo guy. Hell, so is Bard. They need prospects! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 now Bobby V has a team that he can work with... a bunch of nobodys surrounded by a few good stars... No way a team with Benny Agbayani in LF should have ever made it to a world series.... but Bobby V led them there. he will do the same next year with the Red Sox and their sh*ttastic team. GO LACKEY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Why not? Pedroia is a Theo guy. Hell, so is Bard. They need prospects! They have prospects but they also need a team people will be willing to come see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Meh, the accomplished what they wanted - to get worse but save money doing it. Now trade the Cubs Ellsbury, Pedroia, Miller, and Bard. Did you see him pitch this year? Seriously, think about what the Sox did. If on Saturday you heard the Dodgers were getting A-Gon, but also had to take Crawford (100+ million remaining on contract), Beckett (31+ million) remaining and Punto ( ). It would seem like a fair deal. The Dodgers get a very good player in A-Gon and a good, but over paid player in Crawford (when healthy) and an enigmatic pitcher in Beckett that can be dominating. The Sox would be weaker, but would free 60 million a year in salary the next two years and 40 million a year from 2015-2017. A win-win for both teams. Then factor in the Sox received two 22-23yo good-to-very good pitching prospects and two other decent prospects it is a definite win for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Did you see him pitch this year? Yeah, so? That's why he's 4th. Make that 5th after Buchholz. It's not a definite win for the Red Sox unless you care about contract money. Even then, in my eyes all the Dodgers did was add Adrian Gonzalez, Hanley Ramirez, Josh Beckett, and Carl Crawford to a team that already had arguably (is it?) the two best players in the NL right now in Kemp and Kershaw. The Red Sox meanwhile land a pitching *prospect* who's never thrown more than 110 innings in a season and will be coming off of TJ surgery. I like Rubby de la Rosa a whole lot, but not enough that he wins this trade. Webster is decent but nothing special, a solid utility prospect in DeJesus Jr., and a decent LF prospect in Sands. It's a solid haul of prospects and I think they're all going to have roles in the majors, but nothing I'd be bragging about after losing a top tier player at 1B, a fallen ace who isn't old or injured, and a guy who was one of the 8 or so best players in the league just two years ago and has averaged almost 5 WAR a season in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yeah, so? That's why he's 4th. Make that 5th after Buchholz. It's not a definite win for the Red Sox unless you care about contract money. Even then, in my eyes all the Dodgers did was add Adrian Gonzalez, Hanley Ramirez, Josh Beckett, and Carl Crawford to a team that already had arguably (is it?) the two best players in the NL right now in Kemp and Kershaw. The Red Sox meanwhile land a pitching *prospect* who's never thrown more than 110 innings in a season and will be coming off of TJ surgery. I like Rubby de la Rosa a whole lot, but not enough that he wins this trade. Webster is decent but nothing special, a solid utility prospect in DeJesus Jr., and a decent LF prospect in Sands. It's a solid haul of prospects and I think they're all going to have roles in the majors, but nothing I'd be bragging about after losing a top tier player at 1B, a fallen ace who isn't old or injured, and a guy who was one of the 8 or so best players in the league just two years ago and has averaged almost 5 WAR a season in his career. Again, the Sox got rid of 270+ million in salary and only had to pay 11 million. If the Dodgers assumed those contracts and did not send the Sox anything I would have been happy. Yet, they got 4 prospects. Maybe the turn into something or maybe they are flipped in a future trade, but Sox received four decent prospects that have value. I think the trade is a win-win, but the cost to the Sox (A-Gon) hurts, but is not that bad considering they got rid a good player/bad contract (Crawford) and a pariah in BEckett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 If the Dodgers assumed those contracts and did not send the Sox anything I would have been happy. Sure, sure. Anyway, just send Andrew Miller to Chicago so Theo can finish that project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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