gangreenman Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 OK, how exactly is that not relevant? I mean, the purpose of putting together a team is to WIN, but the fact that he has WON quite a bit is irrelevant? Something Something Vernon Gholston herpa Vlad derpa something. I like this form of argument as well. This post totally became unfunny after seeing that edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 OK, how exactly is that not relevant? I mean, the purpose of putting together a team is to WIN, but the fact that he has WON quite a bit is irrelevant? Tell us exactly what he has won ?? AFC, AFCE? Please..........tell us. Quite a bit of NADA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Something Something Vernon Gholston herpa Vlad derpa something. I like this form of argument as well. This post totally became unfunny after seeing that edit. Sorry man lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Yes, Tannenbaum is a terrible talent evaluator who put together a team that has gone 32-22 (4-2 in the playoffs) over the past 3 years. Sorry to keep re-posting that fact but I will do it until it gets through. If we're evaluating on facts, then it's a tough sell to believe he doesn't know talent. It's impossible to take any of you seriously at this point. Honestly the fans are starting to bother me more than the team itself. The official Jets FB posts, "Which Jet impressed you the most this pre-season?" and there were tons of responses of "none!" or "they all suck!" LOL... because apparently none of those people saw Landry or Coples or Ellis or Cro, etc. Ignorant. Herm: shows early promise, team implodes. Mangini: shows early promise, team implodes. Rex: shows early promise, team set to implode. There's your answer, bucko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Tell us exactly what he has won ?? AFC, AFCE? Please..........tell us. Quite a bit of NADA. What has he won? I already told you: 32 out of the past 54 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Herm: shows early promise, team implodes. Mangini: shows early promise, team implodes. Rex: shows early promise, team set to implode. There's your answer, bucko. Tanny wasn't the GM when Herm was coach. Mangini made the playoffs once in three years, and never won a playoff game. He also went 4-12 in his 2nd season. Rex went 9-7 in his first season and 11-5 in his second. Both years he won two road playoff games and was within striking distance of the SB. He went 8-8 his third year after starting 8-5. Bit of a difference, Don't ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Herm: shows early promise, team implodes. Mangini: shows early promise, team implodes. Rex: shows early promise, team set to implode. There's your answer, bucko. For the most part agree is possible but with the new safety and this d-line rotation they might have enough to win 10 and save this mouse of a QBs job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What has he won? I already told you: 32 out of the past 54 games. Until there is an AFCE AFC or SB banner flying in the New Meadowlands they havent won a frickin thing. Sorry making it to the playoffs and losing isnt winning in most peoples book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Tanny wasn't the GM when Herm was coach. Mangini made the playoffs once in three years, and never won a playoff game. He also went 4-12 in his 2nd season. Rex went 9-7 in his first season and 11-5 in his second. Both years he won two road playoff games and was within striking distance of the SB. He went 8-8 his third year after starting 8-5. Bit of a difference, Don't ya think? There's no question that Rex is a better coach than Herm and Mangini. I was pointing out why fans aren't giving this franchise the benefit of the doubt this year. Tannenbaum gets the heat because he's the common denominator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What has he won? I already told you: 32 out of the past 54 games. question? did peyton manning play 2nd half of colts game in 2009? that year was an 8-8 special a giftwrapped win got to play overated bungles and norv effen turner to boot. 2010- sanchez actually improved some 2011- we suck again 2012-2017-- off to hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 There's no question that Rex is a better coach than Herm and Mangini. I was pointing out why fans aren't giving this franchise the benefit of the doubt this year. Tannenbaum gets the heat because he's the common denominator. you don't speak for the fans sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 For the most part agree is possible but with the new safety and this d-line rotation they might have enough to win 10 and save this mouse of a QBs job. IMO, the running game won't be strong enough to mask the offense's issues. If we could count on being able to run the ball while playing defense, I'd agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 you don't speak for the fans sorry I speak for the 97% of them who don't have lead poisoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 There's no question that Rex is a better coach than Herm and Mangini. I was pointing out why fans aren't giving this franchise the benefit of the doubt this year. Tannenbaum gets the heat because he's the common denominator. Well I don't think that this team is about to implode. Rex is a good coach. Unlike Herm and Mangini the guy actually has something that resembles a brain that is willing and open enough to adjusting often. For example, even last season, when he lost the pulse of the offense... He started off giving Sanchez leeway to see if he had taken the next step... A few weeks in, he implored the team to go back to G&P. You saw him deal Mason when it was clear Kerley was beating him out and Mason was just becoming a cancer. Don't get me wrong, not saying he re-invented the wheel, but its nice to see a coach that has some capacity to adjust is nice. Most of all, I think he knows that our offense is limited to a degree and our defense is a real strength. His gameplanning is going to take that into account. He also now has Sparano, who is a former head coach and has been in the league a long time, on his side. Did Tanny do a wonderful job the last couple off seasons on offense? No. But with good coaching and sound execution, the roster is good enough to at least hold its own IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 There's no question that Rex is a better coach than Herm and Mangini. I was pointing out why fans aren't giving this franchise the benefit of the doubt this year. Tannenbaum gets the heat because he's the common denominator. what a load of horse crap lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 question? did peyton manning play 2nd half of colts game in 2009? that year was an 8-8 special a giftwrapped win got to play overated bungles and norv effen turner to boot. 2010- sanchez actually improved some 2011- we suck again 2012-2017-- off to hell So now its Tannys fault who we play and what the other team does? Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 There's no question that Rex is a better coach than Herm and Mangini. I was pointing out why fans aren't giving this franchise the benefit of the doubt this year. Tannenbaum gets the heat because he's the common denominator. Yeah, but our faces are going to be mighty red if the Jets almost win the Super Bowl again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Yeah, but our faces are going to be mighty red if the Jets almost win the Super Bowl again this year. You're right. How dare we have a GM capable of putting a team and staff together that can give us a chance at winning a SB. I want Bradway and Kotite back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Well I don't think that this team is about to implode. Rex is a good coach. Unlike Herm and Mangini the guy actually has something that resembles a brain that is willing and open enough to adjusting often. For example, even last season, when he lost the pulse of the offense... He started off giving Sanchez leeway to see if he had taken the next step... A few weeks in, he implored the team to go back to G&P. You saw him deal Mason when it was clear Kerley was beating him out and Mason was just becoming a cancer. Don't get me wrong, not saying he re-invented the wheel, but its nice to see a coach that has some capacity to adjust is nice. Most of all, I think he knows that our offense is limited to a degree and our defense is a real strength. His gameplanning is going to take that into account. He also now has Sparano, who is a former head coach and has been in the league a long time, on his side. Did Tanny do a wonderful job the last couple off seasons on offense? No. But with good coaching and sound execution, the roster is good enough to at least hold its own IMO. Good post. I suppose we'll see how it plays out this season. Like most observers, I just can't see a path to success for this club unless they luck into an elite QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Yeah, but our faces are going to be mighty red if the Jets almost win the Super Bowl again this year. I won't sleep for the next five months fearing the backlash, followed by the Super Bowl parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Meh so we cut Ganaway ...what I dont understand is the guy really did not get much work in the preseason games i would have liked to see more. Tim Hurttower and Ware were dumped by the skins and Giants maybe we take a look ? Either way our RB situation sucks balls same guys as last year without LT 105 yards per game and no pass receiving threat = probably worse than last year and LB's and safties laughing at our play action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 what a load of horse crap lol. I'm an expert in predictive group dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 TRADER MIKE BABY BAYLOR RECORDS BABY. BAYLOR RECORDS. ALSO BEAST CAPITAL LETTERS MOTHERFUKKAHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 IMO, the running game won't be strong enough to mask the offense's issues. If we could count on being able to run the ball while playing defense, I'd agree with you. the cure MJD **** the money win now baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 How badly do you have to suck to not make the Jets offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 How badly do you have to suck to not make the Jets offense? Pretty damn bad but who knows with our talent evaluators we would have cut Arian Foster because he was what, a 7th round Draft pick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Holy *%*%*& crap, after reading JN's most recent post on facebook, I'm reminded why we are the worst fan base on the entire *&%*&%& planet. 90% of the ignorant posts hating on Mike T for cutting 6th round picks, as if that was some stunning indictment of talent evaluation. If we're going to be delusional as a fanbase, can w at least be delusional homers (like the Bills fans) instead of delusional self-haters? +1. To the TS crew, all of the bad picks like Gholston & Vlad are 100% on the accountant, & picks like Revis & Mangold are credited to Mangini. Scrap heap pickups like Maybin, and recent picks like Coples will be attributed to the ghost of Mangini. Oh & lets not forget to blame Tanny for all of Boobways blunders - guilty by associated you know. Pretty easy for those with an agenda you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Holy sh*t there are a bunch of bitches on this site. We're not happy if they carry an unproductive pick, then we're not happy if they cut him. Jets fans are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Holy sh*t there are a bunch of bitches on this site. We're not happy if they carry an unproductive pick, then we're not happy if they cut him. T0mShane is awesome. Fixed it for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Holy sh*t there are a bunch of bitches on this site. We're not happy if they carry an unproductive pick, then we're not happy if they cut him. Jets fans are awesome. Nobody really cares about Ganaway. Ridiculing Tannenbaum is just a really amusing meme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 A 6th round pick being cut turned into a 4 page discussion on how one of the best GM's in the league who built a SB caliber team sucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 A 6th round pick being cut turned into a 4 page discussion on how one of the best GM's in the league who built a SB caliber team sucks? And this surprises you because........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 And this surprises you because........... It was a question. I havent read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It was a question. I havent read the thread. Ah.........feigning ignorance. Got it. Keyser Soze of JN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 cutting multiple 2012 draft picks is an indictment of the talent evaluation process for the NY Jets. The OL has no depth and Tannenbaum can't even find backup linemen in the 2012 draft? You have to be sh*tting me. Throw in the scotty mcsuck pick and you go from WTF to how the **** is this guy still in charge? Rex + a real GM = super bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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