Texans answer "tanking" charges

[R44]

Here it is. J. Lopez of the Houston Chronicle, an excellent writer, for anyone that surfs for football news, asked the owner, coaches and players about the weird losses:

"It's kind of bad for the game for somebody to make that statement," Texans defensive tackle Robaire Smith said. "We're professionals."

"If anybody questions how these guys are put together," Texans coach Dom Capers said, "I think you've seen it the last three weeks."

He's gotta be joking, after 3 straight choke jobs

"Only a damn fool would say they don't want Reggie Bush," cornerback Dunta Robinson said. "He's phenomenal. You haven't seen many people do the things he does on the field."

Writer J.Lopez:The Texans need much more than just one player, of course. But make no mistake, had just one player — Bush — been on the field for the Texans against St. Louis, at Baltimore and Sunday against the Tennessee, it would not be a stretch to believe the Texans would have won all three.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/3518120.html

[Maxman]

Gonna be hard to prove that it was done on purpose. After all the Texans do SUCK. Nobody is going to deny that.

Just hard to prove at what level of suckiness they reside.

[aec4]

You want to know something?

The Texans would be FOOLS to draft Reggie Bush.

Their OL is worse than ours. Dominic Davis is a pretty darn good back. I'm not a Carr fan, but if they are going to pay him that 8M, then he's their QB. Carr/Davis as a QB/RB combo is not bad.

Put it this way. I think they are better off with Carr/Davis/OL than they would be with Leinart/Davis/Current OL or Carr/Bush/Current OL.

I'm sorry, but they can't afford to take Bush. However, they SHOULD take advantage of the BUSH situation and deal down. They can probably STAY WITHIN the top 5, and acquire a #1 next year + picks this year and help them build that OL.

[afosomf]

Ae4-- I'm going to pull a Francesca here

Are you that stupid to pass on the best player in last 30-40 years cause you have Dom Davis on roster!

Hint: draft 101- you draft the best player available

and his grade is 2x the next guy. they can build OL

thru Fa and draft

Your future posts have no credibility from here on out!

Sorry for venting but this is post had stupidity written all over it

[bitonti]

assuming Reggie Bush is the next Marshall Faulk

people forget that it took the original Marshall Faulk many years, until he was in a Mike Martz offense, before he was used to his abilities.

Reggie Bush is not a 30+ carries a game, short yardage pounding back. The team that drafts reggie bush better have a plan how to use him, otherwise he could waste his best years underused, injured or worse.

[strange_andy]

Texans and Bush sounds a bit like Lions and Sanders.

[RSJ]

I agree 100% Bit.

The Texans would be complete morons to take Bush.

They have D Davis on the roster as well as V Morency and J Wells all good backs. Now what they don't have is a OL, TE, #2 WR, Defense and maybe QB. RB is thier strongest position. Sure they could take Bush but whoever does will not be employed there that long as it will not improve the team.

[SouthernJet]

I agree 100% Bit.

The Texans would be complete morons to take Bush.

They have D Davis on the roster as well as V Morency and J Wells all good backs. Now what they don't have is a OL, TE, #2 WR, Defense and maybe QB. RB is thier strongest position. Sure they could take Bush but whoever does will not be employed there that long as it will not improve the team.

silly.

u take bush and trade dom davis for a low 1 or high 2..

[PatsFanTX]

I agree 100% Bit.

The Texans would be complete morons to take Bush.

They have D Davis on the roster as well as V Morency and J Wells all good backs. Now what they don't have is a OL, TE, #2 WR, Defense and maybe QB. RB is thier strongest position. Sure they could take Bush but whoever does will not be employed there that long as it will not improve the team.

sherry, there is NO WAY the Texans would pass on Reggie Bush.

The fans are totally upo in arms down here and the Texans need a marque, game-breaking player.

Davis had 3 long runs yesterday and all 3 times he was pulled down from behind. Bush would have scored on all 3 runs.

Keep in mind Bush's versatility. I can see the Texans linning him up in the slot with Davis the lone RB. Also, I can see the Texans going with both Bush and Davis in the same backfield.

Bottom line, the Texans will not pass on Bush.

[RSJ]

Well then whoever takes over will not be there a long time. Bush is not going to solve anyones problems. JJ Arrington ran or 2000 yards last year. We all see how he is working out.

[R44]

The fans are totally upo in arms down here and the Texans need a marque, game-breaking player.

I don't disagree with RSherry that Bush still has a lot to prove, but I do agree 100% with Tex: The Bush hype has escalated to such a degree, that they almost have to draft him. If he's a bust, he's a bust....but McNair has to make this pick.

Can you imagine if he runs for over 200 yards against the Longhorns?

This is one of the rare deals where a team has to give the fans what they want.....This sort of happened here in 1996 when Keyshawn kissed the a$$ of every media member and became a folk hero after the Rose Bowl. That forced the Jets to take him over Ogden and Simeon Rice.

Houston football hasn't had a true superstar since Earl Campbell. That was almost a generation ago.

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Another thing that will really help Bush: The fact that he "looks" younger than he is.

I'm crazy, right?

Marketing 101: Kids buy tons of NFL merchandise and they tend to relate to younger players, who they see as their "own stars", not the stars of their older bothers and sisters, ect.

While fellow USC RB LenDale White has a mean, prison guard look on his face and appears to look at least 10 years older than he actually is and Matt Leinart looks like an Orange County Dentist, Bush looks younger than his actual age of 20.

Every 7 to 17 year old will automatically be attracted to this and buy everything Texans.

[Stonehands]

Ae4-- I'm going to pull a Francesca here

Are you that stupid to pass on the best player in last 30-40 years cause you have Dom Davis on roster!

Hint: draft 101- you draft the best player available

and his grade is 2x the next guy. they can build OL

thru Fa and draft

Your future posts have no credibility from here on out!

Sorry for venting but this is post had stupidity written all over it

When dispensing draft information, you need to go back to the Kiper Avatar!

[faba]

Whoever has the pick and passes on Reggie Bush better hide for cover- the media in that town will be all over the GM- how it plays out will we all will find out

One thing to remember about Reggie Bush- he is a big threat as a receiver as well as his running ability. there are numerous ways to get him the ball and not just try to give him 30 carries a game

[afosomf]

Whoever has the pick and passes on Reggie Bush better hide for cover- the media in that town will be all over the GM- how it plays out will we all will find out

One thing to remember about Reggie Bush- he is a big threat as a receiver as well as his running ability. there are numerous ways to get him the ball and not just try to give him 30 carries a game

Bing Bing Bing Bing we have a winner

Faba.. some people just do not get it, this kid will be used like faulk in his prime and will be better by 2x.

[faba]

Another example of a guy that I will bring up and even though I hate the Giants- Tiki Barber is a lethal threat running and catching the ball

He has been a underrated player IMO in his career- hard to believe in New York too.

Yesterday was another exampole he ran for over 100 yards and probably had another 60 or so yards pass catching

[RSJ]

Peter King was on ESPN a little while ago. He said that if Casserly is the GM next year he is almost positive he will continue to let Bush or Leinart drive up the price of that pick and trade it so they can get some much needed defensive help.

[RSJ]

Oh and we will see what Bush measures in at but I would guess he is lighter than Tiki now and when Tiki came out. It also took Tiki years to adjust to the NFL game due to him lack of size. You want to give $50 million to someone who will take 4 or 5 years to develope into a full time back?

[Barton]

The Texans, even with Reggie Bush, would still really suck.

Dominick Davis is a legit top 10 back, maybe even better. He is the only bright spot on that team right now. Definitely the last player the Texans need to replace. And just signing a long term deal last off season, how can the Texans draft Bush and trade Davis without taking a big cap hit?

Not being the GM or a fan of the Texans, I don

[Barton]

The Texans, even with Reggie Bush, would still really suck.

Dominick Davis is a legit top 10 back, maybe even better. He is the only bright spot on that team right now. Definitely the last player the Texans need to replace. And just signing a long term deal last off season, how can the Texans draft Bush and trade Davis without taking a big cap hit?

Not being the GM or a fan of the Texans, I don

[PatsFanTX]

barton, why are you stuttering today?

[afosomf]

barton, why are you stuttering today?

He was so impressed with pats win over Rice U

[Barton]

barton, why are you stuttering today?

Whoops, sorry about that. My computer has been a big POS the past week, every time I get on a website it will freeze after trying to get somewhere from that website.

[johnny green balls]

hopefully we can get dominick davis and a 2nd rounder for our 1st round.

[GlennFoley]

Writer J.Lopez:The Texans need much more than just one player, of course. But make no mistake, had just one player

[Barton]

Writer J.Lopez:The Texans need much more than just one player, of course. But make no mistake, had just one player

[RSJ]

Writer J.Lopez:The Texans need much more than just one player, of course. But make no mistake, had just one player

[JetsMan57]

The Texans should have a moral obligation to David cARR to draft Dbrick if they get the #1 pick. Either with that pick or with a trade down. They owe it to the kid after the beatings he has taken. But I agree that whoever has that first pick will be forced to draft Bush because the fan base will demand it. Imagine if the Jets get that pick and they pass on bush? The fans will charge the podium. Bradway would get run out of town so fast like he was in front of an army tank. It will get ugly.... No GM will even dare pass up on Bush and be remembered as the fool who didnt take him if he turns out to be great. Even if they dont want him.

By the way, I just saw the highlights of the Texans game yesterday and saw the kicker shank that chip shot wide by 30 yards. I was skeptical about the Texans throwing these games, but after watching that disgrace there is no doubt in my mind that before the kick somebody from the Texans organization got into the kicker's ear and let him know they wouldnt be happy if he nailed that FG.... tHIS IS A joke. time to institute a lottery.

[PatsFanTX]

The Texans should have a moral obligation to David cARR to draft Dbrick if they get the #1 pick. Either with that pick or with a trade down. They owe it to the kid after the beatings he has taken. But I agree that whoever has that first pick will be forced to draft Bush because the fan base will demand it. Imagine if the Jets get that pick an dthey pass on bush? The fans will charge the podium. It will get ugly.... No GM will even dare pass up on Bush and be remembered as the fool who didnt take him if he turns out to be great.

There is absolutely no way the Texans would ever pass on Reggie Bush.

According to Riggs and bit, the draft is loaded with good OLinemen that could be had in the 2-4 rounds.

Charlie Casserly said pretty much the same thing here on the radio this morning.

The Texans franchise needs a marque, marketable player after this fiasco of a season.

Reggie Bush will be a Houston Texan come April.

[Barton]

There is absolutely no way the Texans would ever pass on Reggie Bush.

According to Riggs and bit, the draft is loaded with good OLinemen that could be had in the 2-4 rounds.

Charlie Casserly said pretty much the same thing here on the radio this morning.

The Texans franchise needs a marque, marketable player after this fiasco of a season.

Reggie Bush will be a Houston Texan come April.

Or, Matt Leinart.

David Carr is garbage. I dont care how great Bush is, they wont win more than 7 games with Carr at QB.

Leinart and D.Davis > Carr and Reggie Bush

[PatsFanTX]

Or, Matt Leinart.

David Carr is garbage. I dont care how great Bush is, they wont win more than 7 games with Carr at QB.

Leinart and D.Davis > Carr and Reggie Bush

barton, get a clue about the game of football.

First off, the Jets would absolutely kill to get a QB with Carr's skills and ability (and the Texans didn't even pay him $64 million :wink: )

Matt Leinart will be a huge bust in the NFL. He has a weak arm and can not make all the throws necessary in the NFL (sound familiar? )

Lastly, Dom Davis is a very good RB, but not a "franchise-type" RB. He broke 3 long runs yesterday, but was caught from behind each time. Reggie Bush takes all 3 of those runs to the house.

[Barton]

barton, get a clue about the game of football.

First off, the Jets would absolutely kill to get a QB with Carr's skills and ability (and the Texans didn't even pay him $64 million :wink: )

Matt Leinart will be a huge bust in the NFL. He has a weak arm and can not make all the throws necessary in the NFL (sound familiar? )

Lastly, Dom Davis is a very good RB, but not a "franchise-type" RB. He broke 3 long runs yesterday, but was caught from behind each time. Reggie Bush takes all 3 of those runs to the house.

BS

Leinart can make all the throws, and is very nfl ready. He'll struggle like any rookie QB, but not as much.

Davis is a frickin top 10 back, not a franchise back? Are you kidding me? Just because Bush would have taken it to the house, doesnt make Davis an average back. Bush can do alot of things no other back in the NFL aside from LT can do, does that make the other 31 starting backs not franchise backs?

Carr has a great arm, and can move pretty good. But he has bad accuracy and holds on to the ball way too long. He is a BUST.

[Xcel2NuFX]

Ae4-- I'm going to pull a Francesca here

Are you that stupid to pass on the best player in last 30-40 years cause you have Dom Davis on roster!

Hint: draft 101- you draft the best player available

and his grade is 2x the next guy. they can build OL

thru Fa and draft

Your future posts have no credibility from here on out!

Sorry for venting but this is post had stupidity written all over it

You just described exactly why I don't listen to the FAN... First of all as much as I would like to just come back at you with your a moron I will have some respect and tell you I see what your saying.

Hell anybody would take Bush on their team in a heartbeat but I think you are discrediting the point that was made. Although you may not agree with his opinion you should respect his right to have it.

I don't agree with either one of you to be honest and the point was made that Reggie Bush is clearly not going to turn the Texans into a playoff team over night.

Think about this though.... The O-Line there has clearly established themselves as the worst in the NFL this year. Their defense couldn't stop my grandmother from plowing her Rascal past defenders, and don't take away from what Dom Davis has done there. Davis has put up very good number both recieving and rushing ever since his rookie year(behind one of the worst O-lines as we have already established).

Hell if I am Houston I am gonna plan on taking Reggie but if the right offer presents itself ala San Diego with Eli Manning you have to do whats best for your team.

[PatsFanTX]

BS

Leinart can make all the throws, and is very nfl ready. He'll struggle like any rookie QB, but not as much.

Davis is a frickin top 10 back, not a franchise back? Are you kidding me? Just because Bush would have taken it to the house, doesnt make Davis an average back. Bush can do alot of things no other back in the NFL aside from LT can do, does that make the other 31 starting backs not franchise backs?

Carr has a great arm, and can move pretty good. But he has bad accuracy and holds on to the ball way too long. He is a BUST.

I've come to respect your opinions.

We'll just have to disagree one this one. :wink:

[DireJet38]

Wait...doesn't Bush play in college? Not the

NFL.

Granted he's looked phenomenal but he's done this against amateurs...the NFL is a job...professional. The best, strongest, fastest, MOST DANGEROUS.

He's not a physical specimen, and unless he builds a stronger lower base he is going to get shredded.

[The Troll]

barton, get a clue about the game of football.

First off, the Jets would absolutely kill to get a QB with Carr's skills and ability (and the Texans didn't even pay him $64 million :wink: )

Matt Leinart will be a huge bust in the NFL. He has a weak arm and can not make all the throws necessary in the NFL (sound familiar? )

Lastly, Dom Davis is a very good RB, but not a "franchise-type" RB. He broke 3 long runs yesterday, but was caught from behind each time. Reggie Bush takes all 3 of those runs to the house.

I disagree here, TX. I get to watch all the Texans games just like you do, and I believe Davis is a franchise back. 3,000+ yards, 150+ receptions, and 28 touchdowns in his first three years damn sure ain't bad when you consider that he has a terrible offensive line, and Andre Johnson is their only other offensive threat. It's a credit to Davis that he can even break huge runs behind that line. Saying he isn't a franchise back if he gets caught from behind after rumbling 45 yards is ridiculous. Is Michael Bennett a franchise back? He wouldn't have gotten caught from behind.