Blackout Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=321001110 http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/buchhcl01.shtml was that 2010 the biggest fluke or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Statisically uea it was a much better season than any he has jad but he pitched well last year until he got hurt. This year he's working back from an injury. He is one of the Sox pitchers they can build around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Phil Hughes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Dradle made of Clay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Phil Hughes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Dradle made of Clay Oh what plane of reality? Check the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Buchholz 1.2 Inning 6 Hits 8 Earned Runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Buchholz 1.2 Inning 6 Hits 8 Earned Runs That's one game. For their careers Buchholz has been way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Phil Hughes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Dradle made of Clay i don't know about this, both are huge flops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 They are both 27. Flops? No. Clay has shown more. Hughes one decent year was more a product of the Yanks offense than Hughes pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Yankees Rule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 They are both 27. Flops? No. Clay has shown more. Hughes one decent year was more a product of the Yanks offense than Hughes pitching. Lets be honest....Hughes will be starting a post season game, Buchholz will be watching Clay is the best the Sawx have, but that's not saying much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Lets be honest....Hughes will be starting a post season game, Buchholz will be watching Clay is the best the Sawx have, but that's not saying much Hughes is only starting a postseason game because his team is better. He's a JAG on A bad team. And the Sox have some pieces still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Hughes is only starting a postseason game because his team is better. He's a JAG on A bad team. And the Sox have some pieces still. Only in Carl's world are the division leaders a bad team. Let me guess, Carl, the Sox are the best last-place team in baseball, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 He's right about Hughes, though. JAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Only in Carl's world are the division leaders a bad team. Let me guess, Carl, the Sox are the best last-place team in baseball, right? I should have been a little clearer. He would be a JAG on a bad team. Yankees have a solid team. Not championship calibur this year but good enough. And, No. The Red Sox are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/buchhcl01.shtml a 95 ERA+ this year, that is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Lets be honest....Hughes will be starting a post season game, Buchholz will be watching Clay is the best the Sawx have, but that's not saying much What does that have to do with anything? Plenty of crappy pitchers have started playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Send either one to the NL Central Cubs, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 What does that have to do with anything? Plenty of crappy pitchers have started playoff games. Has Buchholz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Has Buchholz? 2009 against the Angels. 5 IP 2 ER. He was 24. Hughes is the post-season is much like the regular season. Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 They are both 27. Flops? No. Clay has shown more. Hughes one decent year was more a product of the Yanks offense than Hughes pitching. Actually, Buckholz is 2 years older than Hughes. Buckholz is 28 while Hughes is 26. Hughes turns 27 next June while Buckholz turns 29 next August. Pitchers with longevity usually hit their prime in their late 20s (28/29) and last till 35. So Buckholz is at the cusp of his prime and has to get better soon if he wants to be considered a top of the rotation pitcher. Hughes is still 2 to 3 years away from having to be at that point. So to call him garbage right now is a bit premature. He was an absolute kid when he came to the majors. He's a respectable 52-36 for his career with a mid 4 ERA and 1.29 WHIP. That's not garbage for a still young pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Has Buchholz? A matter of fact he has, the infamous Papelbon blow save in the 9th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Love it. Someone brings up the Sox #2 starter and the response is "Well, he may not be that good, but he's better than your #4!" Funny, and inaccurate. Just love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Love it. Someone brings up the Sox #2 starter and the response is "Well, he may not be that good, but he's better than your #4!" Funny, and inaccurate. Just love it. Phil Hughes was brought up by a Yankee fan. But don't let facts get in the way. Buchholz was slated as the #3 guy at the beginning of the season. Just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Phil Hughes was brought up by a Yankee fan. But don't let facts get in the way. Buchholz was slated as the #3 guy at the beginning of the season. Just FYI. And Sox fans continued the lame comparison. It doesn't matter who "started it" Slated? Who cares? He's the #2 NOW. You also slated the Red Sox as contenders in the beginning of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 And Sox fans continued the lame comparison. It doesn't matter who "started it" Slated? Who cares? He's the #2 NOW. You also slated the Red Sox as contenders in the beginning of the season. You're right. Comparing two like aged pitchers who arrives in the majors at approximately the same time for rival teams is lame. And the Sox should have been contenders with the talent and money sunk into the team. Injuries, underperformance and bad managing cost them the season. They'll bounce back. Might not be in 2013 but they'll bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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