kay_gee Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 how is there a 35 page thread on Sanchez being mediocre? ETA: 36 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 how is there a 35 page thread on Sanchez being mediocre? ETA: 36 pages. Who says mediocre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 how is there a 35 page thread on Sanchez being mediocre? ETA: 36 pages. If you want to start a thread about him being mediocre be my guest, but this thread it about him sucking. I'm pretty sure a thread about him being mediocre would be much shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Word? Does it matter? No matter what the answer really is, you have to believe me. I'm like a math dictator up in this bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 whatever, I didn't read the whole thread. how is this thread 36 pages for something already well established? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 how is there a 35 page thread on Sanchez being mediocre? ETA: 36 pages. It's called pontificating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 2 TDs and no INTs is good. But, 11 completions on 18 attempts for 82 yards with a long of 12 and a 4.5 average is absolutely not. That's called hiding the QB. Which worked great 2 & 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 It is a recurring nightmare for Jets fans- bad or mediocre QB play that keeps going on and on for 40 years or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 It is a recurring nightmare for Jets fans- bad or mediocre QB play that keeps going on and on for 40 years or so The level of horrible play that some Jet fans are willing to accept at QB says as much too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Every objective measure backs up my point. None back up yours. So, if you want to do away with all conjecture and opinions, you still lose, in fact, you lose worse. Sanchez sucks. There's not an argument to be made in the contrary. Seems like a lot of people who actully cover the Jets are starting to question the talent the Jets surround their so called Franchise QB with. Thats the only point Im trying to make here. Im not going to say the kid sucks until I see him get the same opportunities other QB's in this league have. Right now we're not close to that and I doubt we will be. Even when Sanchez is off this team (which I think he probably will be) our new young QB will probably suffer from the same stupidity this franchise has dished out for the last 12 years unless we get a real football guy in here to run this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 He has sucked for most of his career. Also there are no "clutch plays" in a 35-9 game. Ahhhh....but if he had lost it would have been........lets just say an interesting week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 82 yards worth. SUPER BOWL BOUND. That';s just weak. Even you know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yesterday was essentially nothing. As I said above, we learned nothing new. Improvement maybe in that he didn't get in the way. But that's it. 11 completions. 82 yards. Good enough to beat the Colts. But good enough to beat the Colts isn't really what we as a fanbase should be looking for as our model. Nobody is saying he is second coming of Unitas. But he did what he his supposed to and had 2 TD's in tight windows in the end zone. So i am not complaining this week. I am enjoying this WIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sanchez's performance was the best by an AFC East QB this week, according to ESPN's QBR stat. James Walker, ESPN: Here is how the AFC East fared: 1. Sanchez, Jets, 86.6 2. Tom Brady, New England Patriots, 72.0 3. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins, 60.9 4. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buffalo Bills, 31.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sanchez's performance was the best by an AFC East QB this week, according to ESPN's QBR stat. James Walker, ESPN: Here is how the AFC East fared: 1. Sanchez, Jets, 86.6 2. Tom Brady, New England Patriots, 72.0 3. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins, 60.9 4. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buffalo Bills, 31.8 All 4 teams won, so it does not matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Ahhhh....but if he had lost it would have been........lets just say an interesting week. Sure, but 5.7 YPC makes that pretty impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sure, but 5.7 YPC makes that pretty impossible. You mean to say he is the only QB in the league to find things are easy when the running game starts going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 You mean to say he is the only QB in the league to find things are easy when the running game starts going. No. He's just the worst of them when the situation isn't perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 No. He's just the worst of them when the situation isn't perfect. Alrighty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 BAHAHAHA there you go again accusing people who think sanchez is bad of not being able to read. running out of things to say are we? Seriously, you may be the dumbest SOB on this board, and that is damn impressive, cauz there are some really, really dumb peops on this board. Congrats, we'll done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 The bottom line is that Sanchez has had 2 good performances this year and 4 awful ones. If he can somehow have 2 good games in the next 2 that would be a significant turn of events and completely change the perception of the first half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Talk about setting the bar low. It really is sad how unbelievably true that statement is though. Sanchez had better make sure James Cameron doesn't raise it. He's still a horrible excuse for a QB and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 The bottom line is that Sanchez has had 2 good performances this year and 4 awful ones. If he can somehow have 2 good games in the next 2 that would be a significant turn of events and completely change the perception of the first half of the season. The bottom line is this is the first time in weeks he's had good o-line play coupled with a real ground game and 2 of his starting recieving options back. I don't think there should be any mystery how and why he didn't play poorly yesterday. The answer is so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 The bottom line is this is the first time in weeks he's had good o-line play coupled with a real ground game and 2 of his starting recieving options back. I don't think there should be any mystery how and why he didn't play poorly yesterday. The answer is so obvious. Nonsense. He had plenty of time to throw and plenty of open receivers against Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 No, you need to work on your reading comprehension and understanding of non-mutually exclusive concepts. No one who rips Sanchez has been positive about the rest of the Jets, or has said he is the only problem. The argument is that Sanchez is the biggest problem, in large part because he plays the most important position on the field. His poor decision making, or the fact that he stares down WRs is not a product of anyone but himself. Nor his propensity to hold onto the ball too long. Further, when Sanchez is given time to throw the ball, and has WR's still open, he's still not consistently getting them the ball. Lastly (for the sake of this post at least), the point that most "Sanchez haters" make is that while the talent is bad, other QBs have had more success with similar talent and it's not unreasonable to think Sanchez should be doing better at this point. You pretty much sit back and post "you no nothing about football" on repeat as opposed to demonstrating anything that Sanchez does well. Maybe that's because he doesn't do much well? Saying everyone else sucks doesn't make Sanchez suck any less. Name me a QB with similar talent who has success, I would love to hear this one! It's very easy to sit back and say how bad Sanchez sucks, everybody can see that. What's not easy to see, and takes a brain is to see why. When morons are criticizing yesterday's game, they prove they know nothing about football. If people would stop being so damn intellectually lazy, maybe they would understand the bigger picture, if you want to sit around and yell how bad Sanchez sucks, while ignoring the rest of the problems, and assume we can just go get any QB to play well with this same cast, enjoy, but you don't know football if that's the case, Sorry if that offends you, but it's reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 The bottom line is this is the first time in weeks he's had good o-line play coupled with a real ground game and 2 of his starting recieving options back. I don't think there should be any mystery how and why he didn't play poorly yesterday. The answer is so obvious. It's a waste of time, the haters are either too dumb, or too lazy, or maybe they just hate Mexicans, not sure, but its pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 It's a waste of time, the haters are either too dumb, or too lazy, or maybe they just hate Mexicans, not sure, but its pointless. If you hate it here you can leave. But you will not obnoxiously paint posters here as racist to make your football point, and you will not get another warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 It's a waste of time, the haters are either too dumb, or too lazy, or maybe they just hate Mexicans, not sure, but its pointless. please bring an intellectual, well thought out opinion that pertains to football. Thank you come again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Which worked great 2 & 3 years ago. Yeah? What did we win then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I never thought I would see a 37 page thread on Mark Sanchez. We continue to reach new lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Seems like a lot of people who actully cover the Jets are starting to question the talent the Jets surround their so called Franchise QB with. Thats the only point Im trying to make here. Im not going to say the kid sucks until I see him get the same opportunities other QB's in this league have. Right now we're not close to that and I doubt we will be. Even when Sanchez is off this team (which I think he probably will be) our new young QB will probably suffer from the same stupidity this franchise has dished out for the last 12 years unless we get a real football guy in here to run this organization. There are problems surrounding him. However, as I've said again and again, when he has time to throw, and a WR is open, he still often doesn't make the play. The truth is, you will never accept an evaluation of Sanchez, because barring us trading for Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald, you'll say he's got crap around him. Why doesn't that work both ways then? How can we evaluate Jeremy Kerley without Aaron Rodgers throwing to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I'd just like to say that I too am in favor of surrounding Sanchez with Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Nobody is saying he is second coming of Unitas. But he did what he his supposed to and had 2 TD's in tight windows in the end zone. So i am not complaining this week. I am enjoying this WIN! No one is asking you to complain about him this week. My point is this week isn't "good Sanchez". It's essentially nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 No one is asking you to complain about him this week. My point is this week isn't "good Sanchez". It's essentially nothing. Gotta disagree with this. This was a positive rather than neutral or negative Sanchez performance. He did throw 2 contested TD passes ( rather than WRs being wide open) and hit a couple of 3rd down passes, was over 60%, and didnt turn it over. Not a great performance, but definitely in the good category. More performances like that and like against Buffalo and the Jets shpuld be in good shape down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Name me a QB with similar talent who has success, I would love to hear this one! It's very easy to sit back and say how bad Sanchez sucks, everybody can see that. What's not easy to see, and takes a brain is to see why. When morons are criticizing yesterday's game, they prove they know nothing about football. If people would stop being so damn intellectually lazy, maybe they would understand the bigger picture, if you want to sit around and yell how bad Sanchez sucks, while ignoring the rest of the problems, and assume we can just go get any QB to play well with this same cast, enjoy, but you don't know football if that's the case, Sorry if that offends you, but it's reality. But, why go through the exercise? I could list every year that Brady won the Super Bowl, or do more research and you'll simply say, "the talent was so much better on (insert team) during (insert year)" then call me a moron, an idiot, or someone who doesn't understand football without actually making any substantive points and we'll be exactly where we were. And I'm not offended by you. I'm mostly curious what's so bad about your life that's left you so angry? What can I say, sometimes I take work home with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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