RSJ Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It seems to me like Sanchez is playing better the last two weeks. Maybe it is the absence of Holmes or maybe he is legit getting better. None the less he seems to be getting better each week. jmho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It seems to me like Sanchez is playing better the last two weeks. Maybe it is the absence of Holmes or maybe he is legit getting better. None the less he seems to be getting better each week. jmho I agree. The offense as a whole seems to be coming together a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Ive been wondering, with Sanchez's penchant for doing something stupid because hecwants to make a play, I wondered if he has been drilled enough on making the smart play rather than safe play. Theres a big difference between the two. Chad was a safe player while Sanchez isnt so with a defensive minded HC coaching him to be safe wont work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 BTW, its not Penningtology because Chad would never have gotten the team the lead or brought them back from 10 points down. My late grandmother would refer to this as "picking the fly sh*t out of the pepper." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 His WR's were running open the entire game. If he put up less than stellar numbers in that game, he wouldn't be in the league today. The Patriots are that ****ing bad. He made some nice throws at times, but missed a few too. I thought it was hilarious when Simms went to the overhead camera showing how great the coverage was on a Patriots sack, and Kerley was running through the middle with 20 yards of space around him. Sanchez was looking downfield too, how the **** he missed him still baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 His WR's were running open the entire game. If he put up less than stellar numbers in that game, he wouldn't be in the league today. The Patriots are that ****ing bad. He made some nice throws at times, but missed a few too. I thought it was hilarious when Simms went to the overhead camera showing how great the coverage was on a Patriots sack, and Kerley was running through the middle with 20 yards of space around him. Sanchez was looking downfield too, how the **** he missed him still baffles me. Every QB misses spotting open receivers every game. If they didn't, the Jets may not have the one Super Bowl that they have. Unitas missed a wide open Jimmy Orr and threw an Int. Without that, The Jets and Namath may not win. Yes, Sanchez sucks, but the lengths that some go here to further that agenda is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think we have beaten this horse to the ground...no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Every QB misses spotting open receivers every game. If they didn't, the Jets may not have the one Super Bowl that they have. Unitas missed a wide open Jimmy Orr and threw an Int. Without that, The Jets and Namath may not win. Yes, Sanchez sucks, but the lengths that some go here to further that agenda is absurd. Excellent point! I wonder if many of the posters watch other games or not. They act as though no other QB ever misses an open receiver, or makes a bad pass. Yep, Sanchez needs to seriously correct some fatal flaws, or he will be out of the league, but the levels some go through here are just plain moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 This thread would have been so much shorter if Sanchez didn't suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius del Sol Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 If they didn't, the Jets may not have the one Super Bowl that they have. Unitas missed a wide open Jimmy Orr and threw an Int. Without that, The Jets and Namath may not win. I agree. Sanchez is just like Johnny Unitas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think we have beaten this horse to the ground...no? Just getting started.. this is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 The bottom line here is that Sanchez has played better the last two weeks - but if the Jets lose this week and lose more pace with the division, then it's Tebow Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I agree. Sanchez is just like Johnny Unitas. If you were able to comprehend the point, you would realize that assertion was never made. The assertion was that even HOF miss recognizing wide open receivers. Every qb does. The arm chair qb militia, safe in their recliner are quick to point out every flaw. It is really shooting fish in a barrel, because if you wanted to focus any any individual player, and point to flaws, you could do so. They happen every game, multiple times. Often, things that can be ascertained as stupid mistakes. It would be akin to watching baseball, and wondering aloud why the batter does not get a hit every at bat. "Hey, that pitch was a strike, how could he not hit it!" Every position in sport contains moments of failure. Even in the best of performance games. There are not perfect games. If some here even had played at a minor league level of sport , they would realize this. Yes, Sanchez sucks, but the piling on here is agenda aided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Yes, Sanchez sucks, but the piling on here is agenda aided The fact that team has invested so heavily in him, both in terms of trading up and financially, makes certain people a tiny bit upset about his complete inability to play the position at a level commensurate with those investments. He does get criticized a lot. He also plays the most important position in the sport and he does it poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Excellent point! I wonder if many of the posters watch other games or not. They act as though no other QB ever misses an open receiver, or makes a bad pass. Yep, Sanchez needs to seriously correct some fatal flaws, or he will be out of the league, but the levels some go through here are just plain moronic. Thats why statistics are the great equalizer, particularly those that adjust for strength of opponent. They are unbiased. Funny thing is, those stats say Sanchez sucks. So perhaps it's you who are viewing through a biased lense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 The fact that team has invested so heavily in him, both in terms of trading up and financially, makes certain people a tiny bit upset about his complete inability to play the position at a level commensurate with those investments. He does get criticized a lot. He also plays the most important position in the sport and he does it poorly. Understood. Coaching is also a hugely important decision. Shall we, through the course of a game thread, analyze every single play called and discuss the outcome, based on result. Particularly in hindsight? If we did that, Rex would fail miserably. All coaches would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Bart Scott 1 tackle, discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Yes, Sanchez sucks, but the lengths that some go here to further that agenda is absurd. Rich, coming from someone who contends that, based on his own nebulous metrics, the Jets defense has not been elite at any point under Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Understood. Coaching is also a hugely important decision. Shall we, through the course of a game thread, analyze every single play called and discuss the outcome, based on result. Particularly in hindsight? If we did that, Rex would fail miserably. All coaches would I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Rex makes mistakes, obviously. The prevent defense at the end of the game, his consistent problems with clock management.. The way I see it is that Sanchez is a 45 million dollar albatross whereas Rex is a good coach with flaws. You're free to disagree but the fact is it would actually be easier to get rid of Rex than Sanchez at this point. Which is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think we have beaten this horse to the ground...no? But as long as he's still playing for the Jets, the horse still isn't dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Bart Scott 1 tackle, discuss... Sanchez sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 You have to love the argument that just because good QB's make crappy plays sometimes, apparently Sanchez should not be judged based upon the abnormally high frequency with which he makes these same mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Rich, coming from someone who contends that, based on his own nebulous metrics, the Jets defense has not been elite at any point under Ryan. How does one define "elite". Of course it is a nebulous metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Rex makes mistakes, obviously. The prevent defense at the end of the game, his consistent problems with clock management.. The way I see it is that Sanchez is a 45 million dollar albatross whereas Rex is a good coach with flaws. You're free to disagree but the fact is it would actually be easier to get rid of Rex than Sanchez at this point. Which is insane. I would get rid of them both, because I don't want Rex and staff anywhere a new QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Thats why statistics are the great equalizer, particularly those that adjust for strength of opponent. They are unbiased. Funny thing is, those stats say Sanchez sucks. So perhaps it's you who are viewing through a biased lense Actually, stats are not the great equalizer. That would assume that all variables that help accumulate stats are non-variable, which we know is not the case. The best evaluator is the "eye test", which of course assumes subjectivity, which is why we have a thread this long. If a gun were put to my head and I was asked which stats are most important for a qb, I would say: 1, wins-which Sanchez is at least mediocre 2. turnovers. Which he fails miserably. As said many times in this thread, Sanchez sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 How does one define "elite". Reaching the AFCCG in back-to-back years despite consistently poor QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Reaching the AFCCG in back-to-back years despite consistently poor QB play. That is an absolutely stupid appraisal standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Just getting started.. this is fun. The horse has no meat left only bones...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 If Sanchez can stop fumbling away balls which means the game, then I do believe he could be on the way to being a good QB. Until then I must agree he SUCKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 But as long as he's still playing for the Jets, the horse still isn't dead. I think it has reached ghost status.....haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Reaching the AFCCG in back-to-back years despite consistently poor QB play. Preposterous statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think it has reached ghost status.....haha Nah, it's just laying on the ground, doing a good bit of hemorrhaging, as everyone watches on in complete amazement how the damn thing still isn't dead yet. Meanwhile, Pac lays on the ground next to it as he keeps petting the horse and mumbling to himself, "pretty pony". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 That is an absolutely stupid appraisal standard Of course it is, which is exactly my point... but it's not any more stupid than suggesting that the "eye test" and W-L record are of any value in measuring QB performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Preposterous statement. No, it's a factual statement. What's preposterous is trying to derive any performance indicators from making it to the AFCCG, of which you and the bizarro ilk are often guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Nah, it's just laying on the ground, doing a good bit of hemorrhaging, as everyone watches on in complete amazement how the damn thing still isn't dead yet. Meanwhile, Pac lays on the ground next to it as he keeps petting the horse and mumbling to himself, "pretty pony". Well CTM pulling a Jason Voorhees has spiced it up a bit. He's like the Grand Poobah of the poket protector posse. He is the ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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