PFSIKH Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I am not entirely sold on him due to his own locker room issues, allegedly, in the Jays club house. However, the pitching staff was very good during his tenure and I am hoping him having some over view will bring Lester, Bucholz back to their norms and maybe he can squeeze something out of Lackey or maximize Dubront. http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8532135/source-boston-red-sox-hire-john-farrell-next-manager The Boston Red Sox have hired John Farrell as their next manager, a source confirmed to ESPNBoston.com's Joe McDonald on Saturday night. The sides agreed to a multiyear deal, the source told McDonald. More From ESPNBoston.com With John Farrell in place as manager of the Red Sox, general manager Ben Cherington's neck is on the line, Gordon Edes writes. Story • Red Sox Blog | ESPN Boston Farrell, Boston's former pitching coach, had one year remaining on his contract as manager of the Toronto Blue Jays. As compensation, the Red Sox will send veteran infielder Mike Aviles to Toronto, a source told ESPNBoston.com's Gordon Edes. The source also said the Blue Jays will send a player to the Red Sox. Red Sox spokeswoman Pam Kenn said early Sunday the team had no announcement to make. A source, however, told McDonald that an announcement is likely to be made sometime later Sunday. The Red Sox formally interviewed four candidates -- Los Angeles Dodgers third-base coach Tim Wallach, New York Yankees bench coach Tony Pena, San Diego Padres special assistant Brad Ausmus and Baltimore Orioles third-base coach DeMarlo Hale -- to replace Bobby Valentine, but Farrell had been "at the top of their list" from the start, a team source told ESPNBoston.com earlier this month. Farrell served as the Red Sox's pitching coach from 2007 through 2010. The Red Sox attempted to acquire Farrell a year ago, but they weren't willing to bow to Toronto's asking price of what was rumored to be pitchers Clay Buchholz and/or Daniel Bard. The Red Sox eventually hired Valentine, then fired him the day after finishing their worst season (69-93) in more than four decades. Farrell Knows Red Sox Well The Red Sox's pitching staff finished with the third-worst ERA (4.70) in the AL this past season. Will new manager John Farrell help? Well, with Farrell as the team's pitching coach from 2007-10, Red Sox pitchers fared considerably better. Here's a look: Category Totals AL Rank -- ESPN Stats & Information Strikeouts 4,771 1st Opp BA .254 1st Shutouts 49 1st ERA 4.11 3rd The Blue Jays chose Farrell to succeed the retired Cito Gaston in October 2010, signing him to a three-year contract. Farrell led the Blue Jays to an 81-81 record in his first season, but the team was 16 games under .500 (73-89) this past season, finishing only better than the Red Sox in the AL East. Farrell spent eight seasons pitching in the majors, winning a career-high 14 games for the Indians in 1988, before retiring after the 1996 season. He spent five years as assistant coach/pitching and recruiting coordinator at his alma mater, Oklahoma State. He then returned to the Indians in 2001, serving as the team's player development director for five years before joining the Red Sox. Even before the announcement, news of the deal trickled out over Twitter, where Blue Jays reliever Casey Janssen wrote: "Want to wish our skipper the best in Boston, good luck!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Can't be any worse for that team than my man Bobby V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Their pitching staff was a disaster after he left- so maybe he has the right formula to get those guys back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Without good coaches around him, this team will continue to be sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Think teams are missing the boat on Pena. A manager is probably not as big a deal as we'd like to thiunk. But Pena deserves another shot. And as a former catcher he know pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Think teams are missing the boat on Pena. A manager is probably not as big a deal as we'd like to thiunk. But Pena deserves another shot. And as a former catcher he know pitching. he's a minority so he's facing an uphill battle. Sad. Always seemed to be one of the smartest players when he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 he's a minority so he's facing an uphill battle. Sad. Always seemed to be one of the smartest players when he played. Tend to think that's now not the case any more-except in Boston. As an irish guy, suspect you'r right in this one instance; all the ma$$holes prefer Irish John Farrell over Latino Tony Pena. I would expect Pena is either going to have a job elsewhere in 2013 or he is hanging around the Yankees with the understanding he will be next up when Girardi goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildthing2022000 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Tend to think that's now not the case any more-except in Boston. As an irish guy, suspect you'r right in this one instance; all the ma$$holes prefer Irish John Farrell over Latino Tony Pena. I would expect Pena is either going to have a job elsewhere in 2013 or he is hanging around the Yankees with the understanding he will be next up when Girardi goes. LOL prefer Farrell, yeah right. The last thing this team needed was a retread but they went and got one anyway, dumb-asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 we have a few John ferrel cats living in the backyard....they are tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 So the Red Sox wanted Farrell and not Pena because of racism? Is that what is being alleged or am I reading it wrong? I'm more inclined it has to do with familiarity, past success with some of the pitching staff, and a non-contentious relationship with players and management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWombat Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Farrell was the best choice imo. Pena would have worked too, but Farrell has a good track record with Lester and Buchholz which is exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Tend to think that's now not the case any more-except in Boston. As an irish guy, suspect you'r right in this one instance; all the ma$$holes prefer Irish John Farrell over Latino Tony Pena. I would expect Pena is either going to have a job elsewhere in 2013 or he is hanging around the Yankees with the understanding he will be next up when Girardi goes. Do you know how stupid this sounds? Their is no sugar coating Boston's racial history. It is what it is, but lets not pretend it is only a Boston thing. Racism exists everywhere. I could list all of the racial incidents in NY, but ther eis no point. As CC said, it is familiarity with Farrell. Withhim as the pitching coach, the Sox were thierd in the AL in ERA and led in Ks , SHOs and Opponents BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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