bitonti Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 is he bringing Brees? if so, sean payton would turn around the offense and ruin the defense I can't remember how many years we went without a decent defense. now all we want is a great offense. remember Kenny Obrien and the 1985 Jets? Great friggin offense. Couldn't stop a nosebleed on defense. I don't know what the solution is but you need both to win. the saints defense is atrocious right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Doesn't matter really. Considering the crux of the problem in this instance is that Payton didn't ever want to run the risk of working for someone stupid, I can't imagine him wanting to work for Tannenbaum. Even in my most cynical, sordid Jets-being-Jets scenario projection could I imagine Rex getting the boot with taking Tannenbaum with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 is he bringing Brees? if so, sean payton would turn around the offense and ruin the defense I can't remember how many years we went without a decent defense. now all we want is a great offense. remember Kenny Obrien and the 1985 Jets? Great friggin offense. Couldn't stop a nosebleed on defense. I don't know what the solution is but you need both to win. the saints defense is atrocious right now. You're blaming Sean Payton for a defense he's not coaching right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Even in my most cynical, sordid Jets-being-Jets scenario projection could I imagine Rex getting the boot with taking Tannenbaum with him. I'd like to think that too, but as my cycloptic colleague likes to often point out, the world is a cruel place completely devoid of light in which hope, belief, and even existence are completely meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 SIGN THIS BEAST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Rex won't be around by the time this team is ready to make a real run. Start over next year. Bring in Payton, let him pick a new GM..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 remember Kenny Obrien and the 1985 Jets? Great friggin offense. Couldn't stop a nosebleed on defense. completely false learn your history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 remember Kenny Obrien and the 1985 Jets? Great friggin offense. Couldn't stop a nosebleed on defense. Odd. The 1985 Jets were ranked 3rd in points allowed, 8th in yards allowed, 2nd in t/g differential, and 3rd in both point and yardage differential. Maybe the damn internet is on the fritz again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 completely false learn your history Hey check it out, just for fun, I googled '1985 Jets defense,' and this SI review of a December game came up. Highlights include: Any discussion of the 1985 Jets must begin with Carson's defense: complex, ever changing, cerebral principles translated into the quick strike and relentless pressure. The Jet defense is a testimony to Carson's ingenuity. An injury-ridden secondary has performed at a consistently high level, with a lineup that's ever changing. Lynn, for instance, has bounced around every defensive backfield position. Carson got together with his linebacker coach, Dan Radakovich, who was with him in Pittsburgh and L.A., and decided to switch Lance Mehl, one of the game's finest outside backers, to the inside, where he's having an All-Pro year. The difference between the Jets who were 6-6 after 12 games last year and the current 9-3 team is 831 fewer yards given up. New York came into the Patriots game ranked second in defense in the AFC. In unrelated news I am still single. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1120234/2/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 If he goes anywhere, it'd be Cleveland. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 maybe i was thinking of the wrong year. regardless that team didn't win jack squat in terms of hardware maybe it's just hard to win in the league, and firing people every 3-5 years doesn't really help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Payton and Romo I'd sign up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 maybe i was thinking of the wrong year. regardless that team didn't win jack squat in terms of hardware maybe it's just hard to win in the league, and firing people every 3-5 years doesn't really help If we only kept Bruce Coslet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 maybe i was thinking of the wrong year. regardless that team didn't win jack squat in terms of hardware maybe it's just hard to win in the league, and firing people every 3-5 years doesn't really help I don't see how keeping incompetents who have made the team worse and less talented every year they have been here helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I'd like to think that too, but as my cycloptic colleague likes to often point out, the world is a cruel place completely devoid of light in which hope, belief, and even existence are completely meaningless. Hello friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsouth Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I don't get why JETS fans would want a HC who just barely escaped criminal charges (and the proverbial fat lady has not bellowed as yet) with his current team. Payton is a gum chewing coolio HC with a recent SB win.. but hello.. Seems he went to the pats school of game planning imo.. Sure its fun to have a badass HC.. as long as that a$$hole doesnt' get half the team and the entire coaching staff benched for a season or two.. The Saints are having a great year, don't you think with that smashtabulous HC payton.. (Wow.. I had no idea smashtabulous was a word.. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yeah, just like the middling offense he ran in middle of decade with Bledsoe at QB, he's proven time and time again he can produce irregardless of QB Well the way I see it if Sanchez has to be here for another year due to the guaranteed money next year Payton would be a good choice to attempt to turn his career in the right direction. If he cant, at least we have a proven HC to choose the next QB and begin building a competent offense. I can picture a guy like Payton being capable of running an entire organization as a GM/HC not many of those types out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It is worth a shot. You have nothing to lose. http://espn.go.com/n...nfl-sources-say For me that would be a nice change.....Done with Wrecks Ryan at this point in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 maybe i was thinking of the wrong year. regardless that team didn't win jack squat in terms of hardware maybe it's just hard to win in the league, and firing people every 3-5 years doesn't really help Maybe because we've fired the wrong people. Tannenbaum must go. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 If he is in fact available, it is an absolute no brainer to pursue him, which means Woody won't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 he's not leaving brees narlens stood by him and didn't fire him, he owes them he's not leaving get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Well the way I see it if Sanchez has to be here for another year due to the guaranteed money next year Payton would be a good choice to attempt to turn his career in the right direction. If he cant, at least we have a proven HC to choose the next QB and begin building a competent offense. I can picture a guy like Payton being capable of running an entire organization as a GM/HC not many of those types out there. for one thing there is no way he leaves unless hes promised a small country or something. other then that phew they do not run the ball at all i dont think hed be the guy to help sanchez asking him to essentially carry the entire offense like he does brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 What I want to know is did they void Mikey Loomis's contract as well. Now that might be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 for one thing there is no way he leaves unless hes promised a small country or something. other then that phew they do not run the ball at all i dont think hed be the guy to help sanchez asking him to essentially carry the entire offense like he does brees when the Saints won the SB they were a top 5 rushing team and they have always had one of the best RB corps in the entire game. Remember Brees dumps off to his running backs more than any other QB in the game and thats by design. That offense will nickel and dime you to death then strike up top the Jets simply do not have that capability and are not even close. The Saints have Thomas, Sproles, Ingram and Ivory and from what I saw last night any one of those RB's would be a starter on the Jets. Every one of those running backs can catch the football, everyone of those running backs can be shifty or run hard. When it comes to Payton I agree the chances are very slim of the Jets luring him in. Dont take what I said seriously Im well aware Payton wont be here but one can have hope . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 If he is in fact available, it is an absolute no brainer to pursue him, which means Woody won't do it. This Because Woody has no brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Put yourselves in his shoes....you can go anywhere you want....you are an offensive genius looking to prove you can do it somewhere else....oh, and your family lives in Dallas, Texas. Why would you come to New York and work with Mark Sanchez or have to go find a QB when you can choose anywhere else with a QB with much more upside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The New York Jets are football career purgatory. Not sure why any coach or player would ever want to come here. Nothing is ever going to change with this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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