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Ever come to the realization you're not a man, just a guy?


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he's probably too busy getting laid and not worrying about being a guy or a man. linguistics really messes with people's lives sometimes.

I don't know if Gato gets laid. I think he's strictly of the soup & head variety.

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Got a couple minutes. First thing you have to understand is it's not you. Regardless of what anyone says in this thread this is a function of the game not the player. More likely than not you have the ability just not the proper coaching and or you may lack weapons.

The first thing you and Dr Crushlove have to get straight is what we EXACTLY are talking about. Are we talking about struggling with getting woman naked all together or a specific young lady that you fancy? Those are two very different issues. Because the easiest way to get a chick to say yes to sex who has been saying no is to just ASK ANOTHER GIRL. If the young lady you pursue has tossed you solidly into the friendzone then this is the easiest and quickest option.

This is not saying that you have quit on her and will never enjoy her goodies. Not at all honestly. In some cases by doing this successfully the chick sees you with another babe and realizes whatever they realize at that point. They see you in a different light when another woman is treating you like a man rather than a girlfriend with a penis. All of a sudden she may decide that she screwed up and she will start acting different around you. Eventually she will want your ALL your attention back and may choose to use her softy to accomplish this.

Now if this is one of those SHE IS THE ONE issues I may not be the guy to ask. This is a very long process and may take a life time to escape from friend zone to her end zone. The cost could be enormous and quite honestly you could die.

Let me give you an example:

I have a female friend of mine and Mrs Crushlove that I have been having conversation with for about 15 years. The short story is she liked badboys in high school and had a guy she was good friends with but just not her thing back then. She always told me how wonderful he was but she never though of him "That Way."

He confessed is love numerous times. Love or desire to bang but you get the point.

So.. she spent 30 years with a couple different badboy husbands that treated her terribly and one actually physically hurt her and her son. The whole time talking with the guy from high school who also had failed marriages and ended up with a child so alienated from him they haven;t talked in years.

To make a long story short 31 years later they meet up at a party back home.... end up hooking up finally and now they seem very happy. They are getting married. His daughter is actually coming around and for now the story seems happy.

But.. Look at this. It took this dude 30+ years to get in. THIRTY. One could argue it's true love and worth it. Personally I think it's just circumstance lining up.

So 80. Let me know what we are dealing with and I will get a little more specific.

This is all awesome advice. That's why you're DCL.

In any case, hung out with the girl I thought I was in the friend zone with this weekend. Seems I was just having a chicken little moment without any basis in reality. She sees us as being in a relationship before I even brought it up, lol. Just gonna enjoy the ride now.

Better looks would probably help too.

If only you hadn't sold your horse.

LOL!

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This is all awesome advice. That's why you're DCL.

In any case, hung out with the girl I thought I was in the friend zone with this weekend. Seems I was just having a chicken little moment without any basis in reality. She sees us as being in a relationship before I even brought it up, lol. Just gonna enjoy the ride now.

LOL!

Good for you. Let me know if you need any advice as this progresses.

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Masterbation is what separates us from animals.

Most animals masterbate. I once saw a monkey jerk off with a froggie's mouth.

Masterbation in shame and privacy is what separates us from animals. They will spank it anywhere anytime.

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Dammit.

Essentially, she started putting up barriers starting around month 10 of the relationship. By month 14 she refused basically any physical contact but hugging. This due to the fact that she found out her twin sister didn't even kiss her husband until they got engaged. Being a traditional girl of high morality, this suited her just fine. But of course it didn't suit me, even as a Christian dude.

Not to mention she didn't get any of my random pop culture references, and started alienating some of her closest friends for relatively petty reasons.

Added up to a breakup that was a bit overdue.

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Dammit.

Essentially, she started putting up barriers starting around month 10 of the relationship. By month 14 she refused basically any physical contact but hugging. This due to the fact that she found out her twin sister didn't even kiss her husband until they got engaged. Being a traditional girl of high morality, this suited her just fine. But of course it didn't suit me, even as a Christian dude.

Not to mention she didn't get any of my random pop culture references, and started alienating some of her closest friends for relatively petty reasons.

Added up to a breakup that was a bit overdue.

When you hugged... did she say "no homo"?

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Dammit.

Essentially, she started putting up barriers starting around month 10 of the relationship. By month 14 she refused basically any physical contact but hugging. This due to the fact that she found out her twin sister didn't even kiss her husband until they got engaged. Being a traditional girl of high morality, this suited her just fine. But of course it didn't suit me, even as a Christian dude.

Not to mention she didn't get any of my random pop culture references, and started alienating some of her closest friends for relatively petty reasons.

Added up to a breakup that was a bit overdue.

Overdue? Holy crap.

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