Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, ljr said: Sounds like you are admitting Kaeps personal agenda hurts his team's goal of trying to win games to me No, I'm saying it makes no difference. The 49ers were and are a terrible football team. They are starting Blaine Gabbert for goodness sakes. The 49ers were going to stink this year regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 The workplace is not the place to make political grandstanding gestures or to pontificate your own biases and grudges about society. Most people in most jobs get fired, on the spot, for doing that. I respect Kaep's right to speak his mind. I respect society's right to retort to that speech however it sees fit (within the law of course). I do not respect taking one's job and making it about something other than the job. Just another example of how privileged Kaep actually is, he is an elite, amongst the most privileged people in our country. The rules for him and not the rules for us average Joe's, not at work, not in the courts, not anywhere. Having someone like that whine to me how hard it is is pretty funny to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Warfish said: The workplace is not the place to make political grandstanding gestures or to pontificate your own biases and grudges about society. Most people in most jobs get fired, on the spot, for doing that. I respect Kaep's right to speak his mind. I respect society's right to retort to that speech however it sees fit (within the law of course). I do not respect taking one's job and making it about something other than the job. Just another example of how privileged Kaep actually is, he is an elite, amongst the most privileged people in our country. The rules for him and not the rules for us average Joe's, not at work, not in the courts, not anywhere. Having someone like that whine to me how hard it is is pretty funny to me. Please define what you consider "whining." Because nothing I've heard from Kaep's mouth sounds like whining to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: No, I'm saying it makes no difference. The 49ers were and are a terrible football team. They are starting Blaine Gabbert for goodness sakes. The 49ers were going to stink this year regardless. If it makes no difference then let's say he was the #2 QB for the Broncos. I'll repeat from above, an nfl TEAM is a group of people working together towards the common goal of winning games & ultimately the Super Bowl Would Kaep's bringing in an outside personal agenda then detract from the Broncos TEAM goal of winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 13 hours ago, Tinstar said: If anyone thinks that Keap is breaking any of our country's laws or Violating any of the NFL regulations, then they should take the appropriate action . Since nothing has been done yet, I would have to say that no laws or Regulations have been broken . The NFL deem that the wearing of this decal was an alteration of the uniform and made a ruling against it , Where is the double standard . So when they wear pink for breast cancer it doesn't alter the uniform?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, ljr said: If it makes no difference then let's say he was the #2 QB for the Broncos. I'll repeat from above, an nfl TEAM is a group of people working together towards the common goal of winning games & ultimately the Super Bowl Would Kaep's bringing in an outside personal agenda the. detract from the Broncos TEAM goal? If it is such a problem how come he made their final roster? If Kelly had a huge problem with it or it was causing serious discord in the locker room there is an easy fix. Kaep's contract is extremely team friendly, it's been in all the papers. But the 49ers chose not to go that route, did they? I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Savage69 said: So when they wear pink for breast cancer it doesn't alter the uniform?? No, because it is league approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Guess who the #1 selling jersey in the NFL is??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: No, because it is league approved. It's still a double standard like when a owner dies or didn't the Pats have something on their uniform when Krafts wife died?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Savage69 said: It's still a double standard like when a owner dies or didn't the Pats have something on their uniform when Krafts wife died?? Again, league approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: Again, league approved. Yet the league approves of Kap disrespecting the flag as a Vet that disgusts me.. The country is really going nuts.. I wonder how much influence Kaps fiance a muslim and BLM activist had to do with his protest?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 The guy is an irrelevant schmuck who is already on the downside of his career and has made his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Yet the league approves of Kap disrespecting the flag as a Vet that disgusts me.. The country is really going nuts.. I wonder how much influence Kaps fiance a muslim and BLM activist had to do with his protest?? The league doesn't approve of it but it would be illegal for them to say he can't do it because it would be a violation of his first amendment rights. This isn't rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: The league doesn't approve of it but it would be illegal for them to say he can't do it because it would be a violation of his first amendment rights. This isn't rocket science. The commissioner works for the owners if the league backed by the owners said you can not use the work place for a protest it doesn't violate his rights.. Could you stop selling marine products and instead start protesting at work and keep your job?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Savage69 said: The commissioner works for the owners if the league backed by the owners said you can not use the work place for a protest it doesn't violate his rights.. Could you stop selling marine products and instead start protesting at work and keep your job?? Probably. Because I don't work for assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: Probably. Because I don't work for assholes. Tell you what I'll buy you a we want dead cops T-shirt and a sign and drive up to Jacksonville and test your theory.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 36 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: If it is such a problem how come he made their final roster? If Kelly had a huge problem with it or it was causing serious discord in the locker room there is an easy fix. Kaep's contract is extremely team friendly, it's been in all the papers. But the 49ers chose not to go that route, did they? I wonder why? Nice dodge to avoid answering the question ... As you know it does hurt the team. as for your questions my answers would be A combination of - physical talent-wise he's better than the other options at #2 QB before all this came out, Chip or above him not wanting to rock the PR boat at this point, and/or Chip believing he is powerful enough to overcome it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Savage69 said: Tell you what I'll buy you a we want dead cops T-shirt and a sign and drive up to Jacksonville and test your theory.. Well, seeing as I wouldn't protest that way because I'm not a total dick..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, ljr said: Nice dodge to avoid answering the question ... As you know it does hurt the team. as for your questions my answers would be A combination of - physical talent-wise he's better than the other options at #2 QB before all this came out, Chip or above him not wanting to rock the PR boat at this point, and/or Chip believing he is powerful enough to overcome it. Ummm, unlike I did answer your question. Could you please provide a link of anyone on the 49ers complaining that this is having a negative impact on their locker room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: Well, seeing as I wouldn't protest that way because I'm not a total dick..... So Kap is a total dick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Thanks Obama. I'm hoping that will get the thread locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Savage69 said: So Kap is a total dick?? Show me where Kaep said he "wants dead cops." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Klecko73isGod said: Some might say Kaep is being a very good role model. It's all perspective. Maybe for your kids....not for mine. Like you said it's all perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: Show me where Kaep said he "wants dead cops." The Pig socks he wears is right in line with Pigs in a blanket fry like bacon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, MaxAF said: Maybe for your kids....not for mine. Like you said it's all perspective. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Savage69 said: The Pig socks he wears is right in line with Pigs in a blanket fry like bacon.. Ummm, no. But I wouldn't expect someone who thinks Curtis Martin sucked to understand nuance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Klecko73isGod said: I'm starting to get the feeling that this is a much bigger distraction to you than it is for anyone in the 49er locker room. Nah, simply like pointing out The error of your line of thought my feelings are irrelevant to the 49er locker-room ... But they are having to deal with the topic ... Whether it is a major distraction or minor distraction could be debated ... The fact that it is a distraction can not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 55 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: Please define what you consider "whining." Because nothing I've heard from Kaep's mouth sounds like whining to me. I'd love to, but that would breach the "No Politics" rule on this forum, and I don't intend to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Klecko73isGod said: Ummm, no. But I wouldn't expect someone who thinks Curtis Martin sucked to understand nuance. And like many in the BLM movement that makes stuff up I have never said that..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Warfish said: I'd love to, but that would breach the "No Politics" rule on this forum, and I don't intend to do that. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Warfish said: The workplace is not the place to make political grandstanding gestures or to pontificate your own biases and grudges about society. Most people in most jobs get fired, on the spot, for doing that. I respect Kaep's right to speak his mind. I respect society's right to retort to that speech however it sees fit (within the law of course). I do not respect taking one's job and making it about something other than the job. Just another example of how privileged Kaep actually is, he is an elite, amongst the most privileged people in our country. The rules for him and not the rules for us average Joe's, not at work, not in the courts, not anywhere. Having someone like that whine to me how hard it is is pretty funny to me. EXACTLY!!! Well Said ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, ljr said: Nah, simply like pointing out The error of your line of thought my feelings are irrelevant to the 49er locker-room ... But they are having to deal with the topic ... Whether it is a major distraction or minor distraction could be debated ... The fact that it is a distraction can not That's funny because you keep using the distraction argument as if it's some kind of trump card. Again, where is your evidence that this has been a distraction to them at all? This has been an extraordinarily well covered story yet I have not heard a single complaint that this is causing a problem in the locker room, not even from an anonymous source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Savage69 said: And like many in the BLM movement that makes stuff up I have never said that..LOL Don't make this political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Klecko73isGod said: Don't make this political. BLM is a political party now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Savage69 said: BLM is a political party now?? Don't get this thread locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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