Mark Sanchez: The Final Countdown

[BurnleyJet]

He's gone it's like waking from a bad dream.

[SayNoToDMC]

No way Sanchez is back, no way.

The fans would be as mad about Sanchez coming back as they would be if Rex was fired.

Aint happenin.

You're already 0-1, you sure about this?

[NYJSanchez]

I see it this way -- Sanchez will be cut because f the current roster bonuses and salary, but once that is done and the $4.8 million in bonuses  hit the 2014 cap they should be a non factor in signing Sanchez back.  Loko at the available QBs on the market in 2014...Sanchez has more playofff wins than all of them combined.  He doesn't have to be the franchise guy - just a one year stop gap to battle Smith again and for a 3rd or 4th round drafted QB. 

 

The $4.8 million will be there no matter who is signed so if you cut Sanchez and add him to the list of who is available and who is a realistic option who would you rather have? Shaun Hill? 

 

This is an Alex Smith situaition -- top pick, under achieves, gets a 1 year deal to battle, leads team to 13-3 record.  low risk high reward play.

[eboozer]

This is an Alex Smith situation -- top pick, under achieves, gets a 1 year deal to battle, leads team to 3-13 record. high risk low  reward play.

 

NY Sanchez.... Noticed a couple of typos, so I went ahead and corrected them for you. I'm sure you didn't mean to put Sanchez,13-3 and High Reward in the same post! Ha-Ha-Ha.... that would have been absurd!

[Jetsfan80]

Alex Smith is accurate and limits turnovers.  In what universe is Mark Sanchez like him?

[flgreen]

I see it this way -- Sanchez will be cut because f the current roster bonuses and salary, but once that is done and the $4.8 million in bonuses  hit the 2014 cap they should be a non factor in signing Sanchez back.  Loko at the available QBs on the market in 2014...Sanchez has more playofff wins than all of them combined.  He doesn't have to be the franchise guy - just a one year stop gap to battle Smith again and for a 3rd or 4th round drafted QB. 

 

The $4.8 million will be there no matter who is signed so if you cut Sanchez and add him to the list of who is available and who is a realistic option who would you rather have? Shaun Hill? 

 

This is an Alex Smith situaition -- top pick, under achieves, gets a 1 year deal to battle, leads team to 13-3 record.  low risk high reward play.

It's a long shot, at this point thinking about 10-1, but there is a lot of truth in this post.  Sanchez probably is the best of the vet QB's available.  I know a lot of people's heads would explode, but for a one year contract, or a redone contract that is easily escape-able, it might be the best way to go for the Jets.

 

Not saying it is gong to happen, but it is possible  

[eboozer]

It's a long shot, at this point thinking about 10-1, but there is a lot of truth in this post.  Sanchez probably is the best of the vet QB's available.  I know a lot of people's heads would explode, but for a one year contract, or a redone contract that is easily escape-able, it might be the best way to go for the Jets.

 

Not saying it is gong to happen, but it is possible  

If this is going to be Geno's team you can't bring back Sanchez. Bring in a Kevin Kolb on a vet minimum to help teach Marty's system and keep him behind Simms on the bench. Go with the Geno and Simms competition, while taking a flier on a 5th rd. developmental QB and stick him on PS

[bassmaster2]

He got to the playoffs a couple of times and won a lot playoff games , wish him good luck , not the worst Jet QB

[NYJSanchez]

Alex Smith is accurate and limits turnovers.  In what universe is Mark Sanchez like him?

Before he signed that one year deal where he went 13-3 -- 51TD passes and 53 INT.  Top comp % was 60.5 and that was only over 11 games and best QB Rating was an 82 also over 11 games.  Even in 2011 he was completeing 61% with 17TD  - INT and Fumb were 5 each.  His accuracy reallyu showed up in 2012 with 70% compl before he got hurt and replaced.  People forget he wasn't alway this great accurate low turnover guy.

[Jetsfan80]

He got to the playoffs a couple of times and won a lot playoff games , wish him good luck , not the worst Jet QB

 

He was dragged to the playoffs and to those 4 victories.  The weakest link on two teams that had Super Bowl-caliber rosters.  That's his legacy.

[Jetsfan80]

Before he signed that one year deal where he went 13-3 -- 51TD passes and 53 INT.  Top comp % was 60.5 and that was only over 11 games and best QB Rating was an 82 also over 11 games.  Even in 2011 he was completeing 61% with 17TD  - INT and Fumb were 5 each.  His accuracy reallyu showed up in 2012 with 70% compl before he got hurt and replaced.  People forget he wasn't alway this great accurate low turnover guy.

 

Sanchez dreams of having a 60 % completion in any year.  The point is that Smith was trained to become a game manager.  Sanchez has literally no skills that suggest he'd ever be good in that role.  The best he can hope for is to become a gunslinger.  But because his DOWNFIELD accuracy is also terrible that's a pipe dream too.  

[NYJSanchez]

If this is going to be Geno's team you can't bring back Sanchez. Bring in a Kevin Kolb on a vet minimum to help teach Marty's system and keep him behind Simms on the bench. Go with the Geno and Simms competition, while taking a flier on a 5th rd. developmental QB and stick him on PS

The GM isn't even committing to Geno - and there is no reason to. He is a second round pick that produced the worst numbers for a starter in 2013.  No reason for him to be anointed the future of the club.

[NYJSanchez]

He was dragged to the playoffs and to those 4 victories.  The weakest link on two teams that had Super Bowl-caliber rosters.  That's his legacy.

People love to bash anything the guy did -- in his 6 playoff games he had 9 TD  passes, 4 INT, and a 93 rating -- in the game against the Colts he made a monster clutch pass to Braylon Edwards to set up the winning FG.  Doesn't look too weak,

[NYJSanchez]

Sanchez dreams of having a 60 % completion in any year.  The point is that Smith was trained to become a game manager.  Sanchez has literally no skills that suggest he'd ever be good in that role.  The best he can hope for is to become a gunslinger.  But because his DOWNFIELD accuracy is also terrible that's a pipe dream too.  

Compared to Geno Sanchez throws a much more catchable deep ball.  Genbo was all over the place throwing the ball on a arch to a receiver. How many were underthrown, overthrown, or just tossed out of bounds?  No reason Sanchez can't bulld on the 67% accuracy he put up in preseason while learning a new offense with new weapons. 

[flgreen]

If this is going to be Geno's team you can't bring back Sanchez. Bring in a Kevin Kolb on a vet minimum to help teach Marty's system and keep him behind Simms on the bench. Go with the Geno and Simms competition, while taking a flier on a 5th rd. developmental QB and stick him on PS

 

That's the problem,  There is 0 indication this is going to be Geno's team.  Not in his performance, and certainly not in the lack of an endorsement from the FO.  During the season they  refused to acknowledge that he was even the starting QB for more then the immediate game

[Jetsfan80]

People love to bash anything the guy did -- in his 6 playoff games he had 9 TD  passes, 4 INT, and a 93 rating -- in the game against the Colts he made a monster clutch pass to Braylon Edwards to set up the winning FG.  Doesn't look too weak,

 

He was 28th, 28th and 29th in completion % his first three years in the league, then nearly set the record for turnovers his 4th year.  I don't have to go out of my way to find things to bash him for (like you do to find the good things our Top 5 pick did), his resume speaks for itself.

 

If he was some undrafted free agent QB with this resume, it would be acceptable.  But he was drafted to be a franchise QB.  He was then handed a contract extension that made him a top 10 paid QB.  With that context in mind, he ESPECIALLY looks weak in retrospect.

[Jetsfan80]

Compared to Geno Sanchez throws a much more catchable deep ball.  Genbo was all over the place throwing the ball on a arch to a receiver. How many were underthrown, overthrown, or just tossed out of bounds?  No reason Sanchez can't bulld on the 67% accuracy he put up in preseason while learning a new offense with new weapons. 

 

The first half of the season, Geno was one of the NFL's top 5 downfield throwers.  Your post is absolute BS.  PRESEASON COMP %?  Are you kidding me?

[bassmaster2]

Sanchez dreams of having a 60 % completion in any year.  The point is that Smith was trained to become a game manager.  Sanchez has literally no skills that suggest he'd ever be good in that role.  The best he can hope for is to become a gunslinger.  But because his DOWNFIELD accuracy is also terrible that's a pipe dream too.  

He beat 2 of the all time best in the playoff on the road 

[JoeC36]

Mark? Is that you?

[Jetsfan80]

He beat 2 of the all time best in the playoff on the road 

 

Rex's defense and the running game did that.

[Jetsfan80]

That's the problem,  There is 0 indication this is going to be Geno's team.  Not in his performance, and certainly not in the lack of an endorsement from the FO.  During the season they  refused to acknowledge that he was even the starting QB for more then the immediate game

 

You're right that this isn't Geno's team.  But is bringing back Sanchez the best move out there?  I think its absolutely the WORST decision we can make.  Just cut ties with the guy and be done with it.  Let him be a failure pile in a sadness bowl for another NFL or CFL team.

[NYJSanchez]

He was 28th, 28th and 29th in completion % his first three years in the league, then nearly set the record for turnovers his 4th year.  I don't have to go out of my way to find things to bash him for (like you do to find the good things our Top 5 pick did), his resume speaks for itself.

 

If he was some undrafted free agent QB with this resume, it would be acceptable.  But he was drafted to be a franchise QB.  He was then handed a contract extension that made him a top 10 QB.  With that context in mind, he ESPECIALLY looks weak in retrospect.

How many top 5 picks get drafted to the the guy and have the team do nothing to build around him?  Josh Freeman - they brought in Vincent Jackson, Matt Stafford had Megatron.  Sanchez?  The jets never had a true #1 threat - they dropped Cotchery, got rid of any pass catching option in the backfield, and the offensive line led by Wayne Hunter nearly got him killed.  Von Miller still is wiping Sanchez bits off his jersey.

 

In 2011 if Stephen Hill catches a little 3 yard pass or the defense stops Tim Tebow from driving 98 yards they make the playoffs for 3 straight years with declining talent on both sides of the ball.

 

Alex Smith was trhe #1 overall pick and had awful numbers and never finished a season.  Given the right environment and right coaching he re-invented himself.  Sanchez is young and has solid fundamentals witha great play action fake - better option that Vick, Hill, McCown.

[Jetsfan80]

We had the # 1 running game Sanchez's first year.  We then proceeded to bring in Braylon Edwards, who people around here STILL want to bring back, and a former Super Bowl MVP in Holmes.  Not to mention a HOF RB in Tomlinson who performed well.  Sanchez had plenty of weapons.  You're delusional.

 

Plus, you fail to see that a franchise guy is supposed to make the talent around him BETTER, not be utterly dependent on the other 52 guys around him to have any success.

[Jetsfan80]

And quit comparing Sanchez to Alex Smith.  It's completely foolish.  Can you name any of his receivers outside of Dwayne Bowe?  Has Jamaal Charles not taken his game to a completely different level with Smith as his QB?  Smith may not be good enough to win a team a Super Bowl, but he DEFINITELY makes the guys around him better with his accuracy and ability to avoid costly turnovers.  He's the anti-Sanchez.  

 

You could hand Sanchez Andy Reid and Charles and he'd still find ways to turn it over 20+ times a year.  He's that bad.

[NYJSanchez]

Rex's defense and the running game did that.

Come on he outplayed Tom Brady in New England...a monster game from Sanchez.  The TD to Holmes, directing traffic and hitting Edwards on the sideline, finding LT for a check down TD.  You can't discount what Sanchez did in the plyoffs becuase of regualr season stats. If you did that to Eli Manning he woul dhave been out of NY  along time ago...his regualr season numbers are nothing to rwrite home about but he comes up and plays his best ball in the playoffs.

[JoeC36]

How many top 5 picks get drafted to the the guy and have the team do nothing to build around him?  Josh Freeman - they brought in Vincent Jackson, Matt Stafford had Megatron.  Sanchez?  The jets never had a true #1 threat - they dropped Cotchery, got rid of any pass catching option in the backfield, and the offensive line led by Wayne Hunter nearly got him killed.  Von Miller still is wiping Sanchez bits off his jersey.

 

In 2011 if Stephen Hill catches a little 3 yard pass or the defense stops Tim Tebow from driving 98 yards they make the playoffs for 3 straight years with declining talent on both sides of the ball.

 

Alex Smith was trhe #1 overall pick and had awful numbers and never finished a season.  Given the right environment and right coaching he re-invented himself.  Sanchez is young and has solid fundamentals witha great play action fake - better option that Vick, Hill, McCown.

 

We can end the conversation right there. While he may be successful somewhere (im not going argue that he wont), this IS NOT the right environment for him. 

[NYJSanchez]

And quit comparing Sanchez to Alex Smith.  It's completely foolish.  Can you name any of his receivers outside of Dwayne Bowe?  Has Jamaal Charles not taken his game to a completely different level with Smith as his QB?  Smith may not be good enough to win a team a Super Bowl, but he DEFINITELY makes the guys around him better with his accuracy and ability to avoid costly turnovers.  He's the anti-Sanchez.  

 

You could hand Sanchez Andy Reid and Charles and he'd still find ways to turn it over 20+ times a year.  He's that bad.

I'm not talking about Alex Smith in KC - I am talking about Alex SMith in SF in 2011 when he signed a one year show me what you can do deal because we have no better option.  From 2005-2010 Al;ex Smith was a buy the numbers bust at QB.  He re-invented himself in 2011.

[Jetsfan80]

Come on he outplayed Tom Brady in New England...a monster game from Sanchez.  The TD to Holmes, directing traffic and hitting Edwards on the sideline, finding LT for a check down TD.  You can't discount what Sanchez did in the plyoffs becuase of regualr season stats. If you did that to Eli Manning he woul dhave been out of NY  along time ago...his regualr season numbers are nothing to rwrite home about but he comes up and plays his best ball in the playoffs.

 

Even if you're right about him being some stellar playoff QB, he also cost us a shot at the playoffs in 2011 and 2012.  Singlehandedly.

 

And by "His regular season stats are nothing to write home about" you mean "He's the worst 4-year starter in NFL history" (true statement, statistically), sure, I'll accept that.

[eboozer]

That's the problem,  There is 0 indication this is going to be Geno's team.  Not in his performance, and certainly not in the lack of an endorsement from the FO.  During the season they  refused to acknowledge that he was even the starting QB for more then the immediate game

The FO doesn't commit to any player period. Idzik never lets any player become comfortable and preaches "competition" as his Mantra. He picked Geno.... you don't think he's going to give the kid every chance to succeed? Rex was the one refusing to name him the QB because his job was on the line this season. Every coach in that position would want a vet. Sanchez could hardly play better than Geno in camp! Idzik was pushing for Geno and will not bring Sanchez back to help foster Geno into becoming this teams long term QB. You watch... no QB taken in Draft and Low end QB signing in FA. Idzik is doubling down on Geno

[Jetsfan80]

I'm not talking about Alex Smith in KC - I am talking about Alex SMith in SF in 2011 when he signed a one year show me what you can do deal because we have no better option.  From 2005-2010 Al;ex Smith was a buy the numbers bust at QB.  He re-invented himself in 2011.

 

Fine.  Let Sanchez Re-invent himself with someone else.  Let him become the next Rich Gannon.  He's done here.

[NYJSanchez]

We can end the conversation right there. While he may be successful somewhere (im not going argue that he wont), this IS NOT the right environment for him. 

The environment will be completely different next season and already was in 2013.  With MM as OC and in 2014 all new weapons on offense it will be a team just in need of someone to lead them.  This isn't Schotty and this isn't Sporano and Tebow.

[HessStation]

We had the # 1 running game Sanchez's first year. We then proceeded to bring in Braylon Edwards, who people around here STILL want to bring back, and a former Super Bowl MVP in Holmes. Not to mention a HOF RB in Tomlinson who performed well. Sanchez had plenty of weapons. You're delusional.

Plus, you fail to see that a franchise guy is supposed to make the talent around him BETTER, not be utterly dependent on the other 52 guys around him to have any success.

Yep.

[NYJSanchez]

Even if you're right about him being some stellar playoff QB, he also cost us a shot at the playoffs in 2011 and 2012.  Singlehandedly.

 

And by "His regular season stats are nothing to write home about" you mean "He's the worst 4-year starter in NFL history" (true statement, statistically), sure, I'll accept that.

2011 he had help - Stephen Hill dropping the game clincingh catch - wide open soft toss - just squeeze it and fall down the game is over.

Denver - late TD for the lead, 92 yard field and the defense fails to stop Tebow from running 30 yards for a TD.

 

Sanchez had help in 2011.

 

In 2012 winning 6 games was a shock with the cast of offensive weapons on that team.

[faba]

Mark will be gone by March- good luck with your new team

[HessStation]

The environment will be completely different next season and already was in 2013. With MM as OC and in 2014 all new weapons on offense it will be a team just in need of someone to lead them. This isn't Schotty and this isn't Sporano and Tebow.

Classic case of username complex. You can just change it hombre.