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The New York Jets have been looking far and wide for legitimate quarterback competition

for Mark Sanchez. The best the Jets could do so far was David Garrard, who hasn't thrown

a pass in the regular season since 2010.But another enticing option emerged for the Jets

on Friday when the Arizona Cardinals released former starter Kevin Kolb. New York would

be wise to go after Kolb's services. In fact, there are reasons to believe the Jets may be

the favorites.

Kolb spent the early part of his career with the Philadelphia Eagles
developing under Marty Mornhinweg, who is now the offensive coordinator
in New York. Kolb is proficient in the West Coast offense and knows
Mornhinweg's version of the system well. Kolb also will have a chance to
compete for a starting job in New York, which has to be appealing.

As usual, a potential Jets-Kolb marriage could come down to money.
The Jets have a tight salary cap and must be careful not to be outbid by
other teams with deeper pockets. Matt Cassel recently signed a one-year,

$4 million contract with the Minnesota Vikings, and Kolb may get similar

offers on the open market. If the Jets get into a bidding war, that would

lower New York's chances.

Kolb is not the long-term solution for a quarterback to build a team
around. But right now the Jets need competency at quarterback during
this rough rebuilding stage. Kolb certainly fits that description.Unless the

Jets are falling asleep at the wheel in free agency, expect New York to be

strong contenders for Kolb.

 

> http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/56344/jets-would-be-wise-to-go-after-kevin-kolb

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The New York Jets have been looking far and wide for legitimate quarterback competition

for Mark Sanchez. The best the Jets could do so far was David Garrard, who hasn't thrown

a pass in the regular season since 2010.But another enticing option emerged for the Jets

on Friday when the Arizona Cardinals released former starter Kevin Kolb. New York would

be wise to go after Kolb's services. In fact, there are reasons to believe the Jets may be

the favorites.

Kolb spent the early part of his career with the Philadelphia Eagles

developing under Marty Mornhinweg, who is now the offensive coordinator

in New York. Kolb is proficient in the West Coast offense and knows

Mornhinweg's version of the system well. Kolb also will have a chance to

compete for a starting job in New York, which has to be appealing.

As usual, a potential Jets-Kolb marriage could come down to money.

The Jets have a tight salary cap and must be careful not to be outbid by

other teams with deeper pockets. Matt Cassel recently signed a one-year,

$4 million contract with the Minnesota Vikings, and Kolb may get similar

offers on the open market. If the Jets get into a bidding war, that would

lower New York's chances.

Kolb is not the long-term solution for a quarterback to build a team

around. But right now the Jets need competency at quarterback during

this rough rebuilding stage. Kolb certainly fits that description.Unless the

Jets are falling asleep at the wheel in free agency, expect New York to be

strong contenders for Kolb.

 

> http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/56344/jets-would-be-wise-to-go-after-kevin-kolb

 

  Kevin Kolb, even dismissing his injuries, couldn't beat out John Skeleton.   Skeleton has got to be one of the worst QBs ever seen in the past 20 years, if longer.   How that guy won a starting job is beyond anyone.   If Kolb couldn't beat out Skeleton, I don't see him beating out Sanchez.  Sanchez sucks, but did anybody actually watch the Cardinals games last year?  At least Skeleton had Fitzgerald.    

 

 If he comes cheap, aka less than a mil, why not. Otherwise, why bother.  

 This offseason seems to be "cheap players often injured.. if we get lucky, we look like geniuses.  If we don't, nobody expected us to be good with these players anyway."         

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New York Jets coach Rex Ryan said Mark Sanchez
would begin the offseason program as the team's starting quarterback,
but he made it clear that Sanchez's hold on the position is not
guaranteed."The first snap, he'll be the guy running out there first," Ryan said

Tuesday morning at the NFL owners meetings. "But there's going to be
competition at that spot, there's no question about it. We need to get
better at the quarterback position."


Ryan also said that Tim Tebow, Sanchez's backup for most of last year,

would get the opportunity to compete."He's on the roster, and he'll get

a chance to compete," Ryan said of Tebow. "We'll see how the offseason

plays out, but right now Tim is on our roster."


A league source indicated to ESPNNewYork.com on Tuesday, however,
that nothing has changed with regard to Tebow's status on the team. The
Jets are holding out hope they can trade him and are in no rush to do
so. They could stretch the process out to the draft, but failing a
trade, the Jets will release him, the source said.


The Jets brought in veteran David Garrard

to provide competition for Sanchez, who was the unchallenged starter at
the position for his first three years in the league before his 2012
struggles led to the temporary elevation of Greg McElroy
to the spot. Garrard has not played in the NFL in two years and comes
with plenty of injury concerns, but Ryan said the team worked him out
enough to be confident that he could compete for the starting job.


"We wouldn't have brought in David if we didn't think he could

provide competition," Ryan said. "Now, he hasn't played in two years,
and we recognize that. But the main thing is, when we go through the
process, that we feel good about what comes out of it."


That could mean Garrard as a replacement for Sanchez or as a kick in

the tail to prompt Sanchez to show improvement in the face of the first
serious challenge to his job security as an NFL quarterback. 


Ryan also was asked about the idea of adding Kevin Kolb, recently

released by Arizona, to the mix at quarterback. He indicated that the

idea had not yet been seriously discussed."If we feel that would help

the competition, then that's something we would look into," Ryan said.

Ryan spent much of his hourlong session at the AFC coaches breakfast
expressing his trademark confidence in his team, more than once saying
things like "people should be more scared of us than we are of them."


He listed young players on the defense -- specifically linebacker

DeMario Davis and defensive linemen Quinton Coples and Muhammad Wilkerson

-- as players who he expected to perform at a higher level this year.
But considering the value of the position in today's game, he spent
precious little time talking about his quarterback situation and was
asked toward the end about the extent to which the uncertainty there
challenges his overall confidence.


"I'm confident that we're going to improve at that position," Ryan

said. "That position will play much better. That position will protect
the ball better. I'm confident that we're going to see that."

 

> http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9070314/rex-ryan-makes-clear-new-york-jets-qb-job-grabs

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 I'm not sure what people expected. They were delusional in thinking Sanchez would just be benched.  He's still Ryans's guy.  He's still making a ton of money.  And unless Sanchez pisses Ryan off and Garrard knocks everybody off their feet and looks like Tom Brady,  there's a very good chance Sanchez starts game 1.    People just can't come to accept this reality.

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And unless Sanchez pisses Ryan off and Garrard knocks everybody off their feet and looks like Tom Brady,  there's a very good chance Sanchez starts game 1.

 

 

One of those two things matters way more to the organization than the other. Nobody played Sanchez because he's the guy here, they played him because the alternative was Greg McElroy or Tim Tebow (or Mark Brunell before that). 

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One of those two things matters way more to the organization than the other. Nobody played Sanchez because he's the guy here, they played him because the alternative was Greg McElroy or Tim Tebow (or Mark Brunell before that). 

No..I have to disagree..

 

    They played him, and will play him all year, because RR has Woody snookered.. Woody is clueless about football, RR is not a head coach..he is something, but head coach he is too self important.  RR has tied himself to Mark Sanchez, they have to pay him almost 9 million bucks.. so they are going to get their money's worth..every dime. They are loading up on worthless QB's to make Marky lookey great.. LOL.. his competition is Garrard and McSackelroy.. they dare not start Tebow, or they will be stuck with Mark sitting on the bench

with no hope of returning to starter, and his 8.5 guaranteed money .. LOL !! You and everyone else knows if Tebow was or is inserted at any point, and makes it into a real football game.. he would stay starter..period.  And you know what would happen if he was given half a shot at it...

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I don't know what would happen if Tebow was give. "half a shot." What would happen?

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I don't know what would happen if Tebow was give. "half a shot." What would happen?

it would ( once again ) CONFIRM he is NOT an NFL qb.

 

 

 

 

cheers ~ ~

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I don't know what would happen if Tebow was give. "half a shot." What would happen?

Historically, he wins championships.. I don't count 2011 as "half a shot".. that was a joke, he looked awful at times, completely out of

character for his playing ability.  I think if he had *playing* time with the starters, he can make something happen ..how far, here ? Who knows.. the JETS won't deal with a complete rebuild it seems, and are happy just careening into oblivion ..

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Historically, he wins championships.. I don't count 2011 as "half a shot".. that was a joke, he looked awful at times, completely out of

character for his playing ability.  I think if he had *playing* time with the starters, he can make something happen ..how far, here ? Who knows.. the JETS won't deal with a complete rebuild it seems, and are happy just careening into oblivion ..

 

"careening into oblivion"?  Is that your end game?

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Historically, he wins championships.. I don't count 2011 as "half a shot".. that was a joke, he looked awful at times, completely out of

character for his playing ability.  I think if he had *playing* time with the starters, he can make something happen ..how far, here ? Who knows.. the JETS won't deal with a complete rebuild it seems, and are happy just careening into oblivion ..

 

  We have to wait and see who they draft and how those guys pan out or at least show some potential.    And we have to see what happens with Revis.

A good draft and kids who show potential on top of Revis traded for a bunch of good picks, shows a rebuild.    

Holding onto Revis and not extended him or renegotiating his contract and having a poor draft,  then you start to think the Jets are in for a long few years.

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Historically, he wins championships.. I don't count 2011 as "half a shot".. that was a joke, he looked awful at times, completely out of

character for his playing ability.  I think if he had *playing* time with the starters, he can make something happen ..how far, here ? Who knows.. the JETS won't deal with a complete rebuild it seems, and are happy just careening into oblivion ..

 

The college game is different, and college championship QB's often never make it in the NFL.

 

Remember the big college championship game between Leinart and Vince Young?  How did they do in the pro's?

 

So you're basically left with Tebow's wonderful half-year a year ago.  And most games he still looked lousy passing the ball, even though they won those games-which led the Broncos to go in another direction at QB.

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Historically, he wins championships.. I don't count 2011 as "half a shot".. that was a joke, he looked awful at times, completely out of

character for his playing ability.  I think if he had *playing* time with the starters, he can make something happen ..how far, here ? Who knows.. the JETS won't deal with a complete rebuild it seems, and are happy just careening into oblivion ..

 

" ...oblivion .. "  ? ?....hopefully they'll have some real coooold beer there :love0040:

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fyi :

 

Colt McCoy won’t be with the Browns much longer

 

The signing of quarterback Jason Campbell will hasten a move that

everyone has been expecting: The Browns will soon part ways with

quarterback Colt McCoy.Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer

reports that McCoy is expected to be released or traded soon.


The “or traded” part of that seems unlikely. It’s hard to see why any
team would be willing to give up even a seventh-round draft pick for
McCoy, knowing he’s about to be available for nothing.


Former Browns President Mike Holmgren took McCoy with a third-round
pick in the 2010 NFL draft. McCoy has thrown 21 touchdowns and 20
interceptions with the Browns, who have gone 6-15 in games he started.


Campbell is expected to compete with Brandon Weeden for the starting

job in Cleveland.

 

> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/27/colt-mccoy-wont-be-with-the-browns-much-longer/

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Report : Seahawks may have multiple trade partners for QB Matt Flynn

 

 

The Seattle Seahawks

unquestionably gamed free agency this year, adding star players at key

positions of need on both sides of the ball. They traded for

ex-Minnesota Vikings receiver Percy Harvin,

and then signed Harvin to a long-term contract to add explosiveness to

their passing game, Then, they nabbed two of the more prominent

pass-rushers in Cliff Avril

and Michael Bennett, leading many analysts to assume that a team that

already went 11-5 in 2012 could very well be on the way to a Super Bowl

run.

However, two things still bedevil head coach Pete Carroll and general manager John Schneider.

First, the loss of the first-round pick in the Harvin deal -- Schneider

is a hard-core draftnik, and though he had no issue giving up the pick

for a player of Harvin's potential value, you know he'd want more chips

in later rounds. And then, there's the Matt Flynn situation. The former Green Bay Packers

backup quarterback signed with the Seahawks before the 2012 season, and

his three-year, $19.5 million contract would have seemed to insure him

the starting position for his new team.

Then ... well, Russell Wilson

happened, and Flynn was put very much on the back burner. 26

regular-season touchdowns, one playoff win, and one near playoff

comeback later, Wilson, a third-round rookie, had redefined Seattle's

quarterback situation in ways few could have imagined. And with a weak

free-agent market at the position, not to mention a draft class full of

iffy quarterbacks, it was just a matter of time before Flynn's name

became a hot one on the trade market.

[Also: Pro day observers: Manti Te'o not worthy of first-round draft pick]

According to one report, that time is now. CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reported on Tuesday that three teams are talking to the Seahawks about acquiring Flynn's services. La Canfora says that the Jacksonville Jaguars, Oakland Raiders, and Buffalo Bills are in the mix, and though the market for Flynn has been lukewarm to date, a trade could happen before the draft in late April.

The Jaguars would be a sensible destination for a couple of reasons.

New head coach Gus Bradley was Carroll's defensive coordinator from 2010

through 2012, and though the Jags are pretty clearly ready to move on

from Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville may want to use their second overall

draft pick on a lineman, or other player with more pure talent than any

draftable quarterback. The Raiders need a competent starter because

they're almost certainly going to cut ties with Carson Palmer unless

Palmer reverses course and chooses to re-structure his currently

ginormous 2013 cap number. They have the third overall pick and may also

want to avoid reaching for a quarterback just because. And the Bill

recently released quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick. Many people have tied

new Bills head coach Doug Marrone to Ryan Nassib, Marrone's

signal-caller at Syracuse, But very few people see Nassib as a

first-round pick, and the Bills pick eighth in the first round.

If the Seahawks could move Flynn and nab a couple of mid-round picks in return, it would benefit them in two ways.

First, it would add cap space to Seattle's current level of

approximately $6 million, and Schneider has recently expressed that he

and Carroll are already trying to extend the contacts of Seattle's

younger stars. And Schneider is one of the NFL's best at turning

mid-round picks into roster gold. Wilson came in the third round of the

2012 draft, All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman was taken in the fifth

round a year before, and elite safety Kam Chancellor showed up in the

fifth round a year before that. Adding some more picks to this year's

draft would take some of the sting out of losing that first-round pick

for Schneider, because he knows how to use them.

Then again, the Seahawks may choose to hang on to Flynn as a reliable

backup. Wilson is a mobile quarterback who puts himself in harm's way

more than most, and Seattle doesn't have a clear backup plan that

doesn't involve Flynn. They'd either have to troll the bargain bin or

draft Wilson's backup, and they may decide in the end that with a

championship-level roster, having a reasonably sure thing at the game's

most important position is worth the salary hit.

Obviously, Flynn would like the chance to prove that he can be an NFL

starter. Wilson took that chance away from him based on pure merit.

Other NFL teams have far more tenuous quarterback situations.

"Matt has handled himself really well," Carroll said at his

end-of-season press conference in January. "He never accepted [the

demotion, and] I never expected him to, I wanted him to fight the whole

way. If it made him grumpy at times, then that was what was going to

happen. He handled it like a real champion kid. He competed in practice

on a regular basis, he never did want to accept, and he still thinks

he’s the best quarterback in the program and I admire him for thinking

that way. I’ll forever regret the fact that we never got to chance to

see him play very much. Everything he did was on point; Russell Wilson

just never let it happen. As we move forward we’re going to figure it

out.

"We’re fortunate that we have two very good quarterbacks in the program."

 

> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-seahawks-may-multiple-trade-partners-qb-matt-132453385--nfl.html

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Matt Flynn has been something of a forgotten man in recent weeks.


As the NFL’s focus fell on free agency and the draft, any trade
rumors involving the Seahawks’ $19-million backup cooled. At least, that
is, until Wednesday.


CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports
that Jacksonville, Oakland and Buffalo are “in the mix” for a possible
Flynn trade, with the Jaguars “the most likely destination.” All three
franchises clearly could use help at the quarterback spot; though the
Jaguars, with Blaine Gabbert penciled in as the starter, arguably have a
less desperate situation than the Raiders or Bills.


Of course, those teams also hold three of the top eight spots in next
month’s draft — Jacksonville is slated to pick No. 2, Oakland at No. 3
and Buffalo No. 8. Given that the Chiefs, with Alex Smith now in tow,
are unlikely to select a QB atop the draft, all of this year’s
quarterback prospects could still be on the board with the Jaguars on
the clock, ,and likely to go quickly.

That is, if the Jaguars, Raiders or Bills consider any of the available
QBs worthy of a high Round 1 selection. If not, then the sudden
increased in Flynn interest (Flynnterest?) makes sense.


Still just 27, Flynn spent four years backing up Aaron Rodgers and
had a monster performance against Detroit in Week 17 of the 2011 season.
A few months later Flynn signed a three-year deal with Seattle,
expecting to take over as the Seahawks’ starting quarterback. The
arrival of third-round pick Russell Wilson changed all of that.


Wilson beat out Flynn for the QB job in 2012, leaving the Seahawks

with a very expensive backup.


Wilson’s extremely inexpensive contract (he’ll earn less than $530K
in 2013) provides Seattle with some wiggle room to hold onto Flynn; $2
million of Flynn’s $5.25 million 2013 salary is guaranteed, plus he has
$4 million of his prorated signing bonus remaining.


Those numbers would not look as gaudy if Flynn were starting
somewhere. Oakland, for example, is set to owe Carson Palmer $13 million
next season, though his imminent release is a key factor in any Raiders
pursuit of Flynn.


Flynn has just two NFL starts under his belt — that 44-31 win over
Detroit, in which he threw for 480 yards and six touchdowns (both Green
Bay records), and a 31-27 loss to New England in 2010.


Trading Flynn would leave Seattle without a backup quarterback behind
Wilson. However, the Seahawks currently sit sans a first-round draft
pick because of their trade for Percy Harvin. Flynn likely would not
bring back that high a value, but he should command at least one or two
selections. The free-agent market at QB, which was unimpressive to begin
with, is now almost nonexistent, which could push up Seattle’s asking
price.


According to La Canfora, a Flynn trade “could materialize before the
draft.” Such a timetable is logical, given that Buffalo, Jacksonville
and Oakland all would prefer to have some plan at quarterback set in
stone before heading to Radio City Music Hall.

 

> http://nfl.si.com/2013/03/27/matt-flynn-trade-rumors-reignited-by-jacksonville-oakland-buffalo/?sct=uk_t2_a16

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Ya think maybe Matt Flynn is better than Sanchez, Kelly ?

 

they're ,  more or less,...the same :frown:

 

 

 

 

 

cheers ~ ~

:cheer:

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Jeff Garcia tutoring Mark Sanchez, Jamarcus Russell

 

New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez is receiving tutoring from

former NFL quarterback Jeff Garcia, who is teaching Sanchez the finer

points of the West Coast offense, reports Jim Corbett of USA Today

Sports. Sanchez struggled last year with the Jets and Rex Ryan has

indicated that the competition for the starting job in 2013 is wide open.

Garcia is working with both Sanchez and former Raiders quarterback

JaMarcus Russell.The 12-year NFL veteran and four-time Pro Bowl

selection is an expert in the West Coast offense and played for Marty

Mornhinweg, the Jets' new offensive coordinator, in both San Francisco

and Philadelphia.

 

> http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/375991

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No fooling : Prepare for a wild month
 

It's April 1, and we're not fooling when we tell you this could be one

of the most eventful months in recent Jets history. A chronological
preview of what might occur:

April 15: Off-season program begins. Ordinarily,
this is a relatively ho-hum date on the football calendar, but the Jets
have two high-profile players under contract -- Darrelle Revis and Tim Tebow
-- whose futures with the team are uncertain. Will they show or will
they stay away, knowing their days as Jets could be numbered?
 
Technically, the workouts are voluntary (there's no penalty for
skipping), but if often illustrates the mindset of a player if he
doesn't show. Revis has a $1 million workout bonus, but he can afford to
miss a few because the bonus is triggered with an 83-percent attendance
rate. He has been training and rehabbing his surgically repaired knee
in Arizona. It's not in Tebow's makeup to skip team activities, but
there has to be some frustration, a feeling that he's being strung along
by the Jets.

April 22-25: Revis trade winds. The Jets-Bucs trade
chatter has been quiet recently, but it'll perk up as we get closer to
the April 25 draft. There's still a good chance this trade gets done,
but it likely won't be an on-the-clock deal. The Bucs would need time to
negotiate a contract (that won't take long) and give Revis a physical
exam to check out his knee. There's considerable risk in trading for
someone coming off ACL surgery, and you'd think the Bucs would want
their doctors to see the knee up-close.

April 25: Draft day, Round 1: The Jets own the
ninth pick and -- who knows? -- perhaps the 13th pick if they can
extract that from the Bucs. With nine and 13, they could fill two of
their many needs. The drama will build if West Virginia QB Geno Smith
falls to nine, which seems likely with the Bills (No. 8) signing Kevin Kolb,
the Raiders (No. 3) trying to trade for Matt Flynn and the Cards (No. 7)
waiting in the weeds for Carson Palmer. If the Jets pick a quarterback at
No. 9, or even one in the second round (No. 39), it would be a
franchise-altering move.

April 27, Rounds 4-7: The Jets figure to step up
their efforts to trade Tebow, hoping for a late-round draft pick. If
they can't deal him during the draft, it'll probably mark the end of
Tebow Time in New York.
 

 

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~~~ a ~~~ too ~~~ late ~~~ for ~~~ this ~~~ news,~~~ Kelly. ~~~ Already ~~~ posted ~~~ yesterday ~~~(~~~x1000)

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~~~ a ~~~ too ~~~ late ~~~ for ~~~ this ~~~ news,~~~ Kelly. ~~~ Already ~~~ posted ~~~ yesterday ~~~(~~~x1000)

 

sorry mom...

 

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Trade Tebow for Gabbert

Why not trade Suckchez for Gabbert?   Ok we will throw in a ticket to the Super Bowl in "our" stadium for the Jags owner.

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Thank you son!

 

you're welcome ! !  :love0040:

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you're welcome ! !  :love0040:

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U forgot to take ur shirt off...

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U forgot to take ur shirt off...

 

j4jets,.last time at least YOU bought me a drink &...

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....a ring :winking0001:

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j4jets,.last time at least YOU bought me a drink &...

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....a ring :winking0001:

 

 

Think again..that thing you were sipping on, was not a pina colada... :winking0001:

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Think again..that thing you were sipping on, was not a pina colada... :winking0001:

huh...

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huh...

 

Does the poor girl in England know you're using her pics in the USA? I mean, she might be shocked how you published her entire facebook...over the last several years.

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