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The Jets Will Never Win A Super Bowl In Our Lifetime

The Gun Of Bavaria

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Figure we're done for this season and next, and when the new regime takes over in 2007 when Edwards and Bradway FINALLY get their walking papers. And figure they'll need a year or 2 to clean up this mess. Which is why in another post, the most disappointing thing about this year is that Johnson has bought the BS injury excuse and delayed the housecleaning this franchise desperately needs for another year. So we waste more time allowing Edwards and Bradway to feed the faded Parcells nucleus. Who ever the Bills hire, the Jets will have the dumbest coach in the AFCE with Edwards.

New insight for me-the owner may be the biggest problem of all. Johnson must be a spoiled brat rich boy dumba$$ if he needs 6 years to figure out that Edwards is an abysmal coach. And if this is his idea of management-Bradway/Edwards-it's entirely plausible that this team will never advance to the Super Bowl. AT least the Maras and the Tisches made their kids go to work. What the hell has Woody be doing with himself since high school? Being a "philanthropist" is wonderful, but it's clear so far that he's soft and pliable in the hands of a coupla BS artists like the current regime.

I still thinks that Bradway and Edwards are a huge problem. But when the owner accepts this nonsense without complaint, he may be the bigger problem. Does anyone think Jeffrey Lurie of Bob Kraft would lsiten to this daily Hofstra excuse fest for more than 30 seconds without losing their cool? And Edwards has gotten away with it for 5 going on 6 years.

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Funny Bugg

You never hear anything but positives when it comes to Herm from the NFL Brass

You on the otherhand, continue to rip him

Hate to break it to you, but Steeler fans wanted Cowher out a few years ago, but he's still around

Not too sure if you won't see Herm on our sidelines for awhile

Bradway on the other hand, needs a perfect offseason to last IMO

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The Gun Of Bavaria

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Needless to say I had a few pops last night when I created this.

But you are all right in some way, shape or form. Herm isn't going anywhere, even I've accepted that. As far as Bradway goes this is his make or break year and I'd be willing to bet he'd get axed before Herm would.

I myself would like to see new ownership if WJ's main mission continues to be a stadium and he could care less about the on the field product.

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Bradway needs to be fired.

Like I've said before, I could live with herm for another year.

Bradway is bar none the worst GM in football. Way to put us right back into cap hell.

Hey lets not sign our young guys! There's absolutely no reason why guys like Randy Thomas and Kareem Mckenzie shouldn't be Jets. At least we have Curtis for another 4 years. :roll:

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Bradway needs to be fired.

Like I've said before, I could live with herm for another year.

Bradway is bar none the worst GM in football. Way to put us right back into cap hell.

Hey lets not sign our young guys! There's absolutely no reason why guys like Randy Thomas and Kareem Mckenzie shouldn't be Jets. At least we have Curtis for another 4 years. :roll:

Worst GM in football? Well that's just a slight exaggeration. Our offense is in tatters but our D is still decent, and that's because of guys like Vilma, Robertson, Hobson, Law, and Barrett that Bradway picked up. But whatever. It's obviously TB's fault that half of our starting lineup on offense is injured and we can't move the ball for sh!t.

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You're acting as if the Robertson move was good. It was horrific.

Bradway, got rid of Young, Glenn and Coleman to dump salary, thats good.

Then he proceeds to sign aging guys and a QB who's never played a full season to long term deals. Thats bad, real bad. We have the worst cap situation in football right now at 3-10. How that doesn't fall on Bradway, I don't know.

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Funny Bugg

You never hear anything but positives when it comes to Herm from the NFL Brass

You on the otherhand, continue to rip him

Hate to break it to you, but Steeler fans wanted Cowher out a few years ago, but he's still around

Not too sure if you won't see Herm on our sidelines for awhile

Bradway on the other hand, needs a perfect offseason to last IMO

Oh, the NFL BRASS love him! YIPPEE! Paulie Tags like that Johnson hired his lapdog from the minority program over more qualified guys(including Marve Lewis, nonprogram more-qualified guy and black )! Do we get games in the standings? Will the NFL brass give us a win or 2 each year for their wonderful support? May be give us a few extra timeouts so we can make up for his idiocy or pay D!ckie Curl's salary?

Lewis by the way takes over a dump and makes it into a powerhouse. Edwards takes over a solid program and turns it into an outhouse.

Edwards records-career, total-40-42

Cowher-your non sequiturappropo of nothing, throw in to bolster your piss poor arguement total-146-91-1, 1 Super Bowl berth, numerous AFC title games. Your point by bringing him up is what exactly?

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Hindsight is a wonderful message board tool.

Almost everyone was "all in" on getting Robertson at the time of the draft. That includes posters, rival teams fans as well as the Parcells and BB's of the world.

Last year when we were a good team DRob was considered gold by most of us along with opponents FO's around the league.

The Jets had the means to move up and get DRob where Parcells and BB did not. We will never know if they would have made the same trade had they had sufficient ammo to do so.

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The Jets had the means to move up and get DRob where Parcells and BB did not.

Not sure what you mean by this shelter.

Any team, including the Pats, could have moved up and taken DFat giving up draft picks.

Thankfully, BB and the Pats knew that DFat's price was not equal to his worth.

The Jets basically gave up two 1st's and a 4th for a mediocre DLineman. #-o

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GS, at this point in time does it really matter what Parcells and BB would have done?

I never liked the Robertson move from the get go. It was a panic move by Bradway because he was completely fleeced in the offseason by the Skins while he was on SpaceMountain. Hey, I'll trade 2 of my first round picks to get up and pick a guy who did well at the combine.

No one knew who Dewayne Robertson was till his workouts. Now we have a guy who's managed to have gotten worse this season and also has a chronic knee problem.

Just ask yourself this, and maybe I'm wrong, but who would you rather have on your team, Robertson or Troy Polamaulu?

Personally, I'll take the ballhawking, hitting safety over the underachieving DT.

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Hindsight is a wonderful message board tool.

Almost everyone was "all in" on getting Robertson at the time of the draft.

We were "all in" because for 2 seasons we heard ad nauseum that Herm needed his "3-Tech DT" to make the system he insisted on implementing, work.

We were "all in" because for the previous two seasons, Bradway failed to draft a DT, even passing on Larry Tripplett and the guy from Detroit, who's name eludes me at this moment.

We were "all in" because the team's run defense was a disgrace, since Herm became the coach.

Oh, one other thing:

We weren't "all in"; some of us wanted to stay put and pick up William Joseph, or the guy the Pats got.

That draft was actually rich in DT's and the only reason Bradway traded up to get him, was because he was locked in on him, and every other team in the NFL (especially the ones drafting in the top 4) knew it. Oh, and the teams not drafting in the top 4, posed like they wanted to trade up, just to get Terry to panic.

The guy has sucker written on his forehead and kick me on his back.

We knew they were going after Rerun, and we got on board because we simply did what Jets fans do best, we hoped. Just like we hoped Blair Thomas was going to work out.

And what exactly do "we" have to do with the decision being made, anyway? "We" don't make the decision, so "we" are not accountable. The GM who is paid millions of dollars, does.

Well, hope hasn't gotten us much over the years, has it?

One sht sandwich after another.

Face it, the return on investment as far as D-Rob is concerned is >.

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Agree Matt at this point it does not matter what BB or Parcells would have done but both thought DRob was a great move by the Jets.

I am not ready to write DRob off and I would guess last season you were pretty happy with him as well.

When you are 3-10 everyone looks ugly.

The Polamaulu comparison is again in hindsight.

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And compounded by questions regarding this regime's ability to discern talent.

In the wealth of crappy DBS the Jets have signed and drafted, they essentially passed on Ed Reed for Bryan Thomas(who in fairness has been better this year, but still not worth it) and Troy Polamalu(and what ever they could've got with the other picks) for Robertson(again who was very good last year, and all right, not great, this year when he's played). Absolutely it is hindsight-but that kind of hindsight into poor decisions is what gets people fired. Except for Woody Johnson, apparently.

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Agreed Bugg. I mean, Kerry Rhodes and Erik Coleman are nice players...but they arent exactly two safeties guys are going to fear heading over the middle.

The problem is, is that our all world Dline has pretty much underperformed for a while now. There's no excuse for a line that has four, 1st round picks to be playing this poorly.

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Pretty clear that Bradway falls in love with players at the combine. Can recall Peter King saying before Robertson was drafted that every game film of him showed him out of shape and taking plays off at Kentucky. Again, I think Robertson, if the knee can hold up, can be a very good DT, and he was last year. But Bradway goes to the draft and uses his phone with other GMs like a lovesick 14-year old boy and they can see him coming.

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Again, I think Robertson, if the knee can hold up, can be a very good DT, and he was last year.

DFat's knee could very well hamper his entire career.

If I'm not mistaken, he has all his cartilage removed from his knee. That is bone on bone with no buffer whatsoever.

And carrying around all his weight only puts more stress on that knee.

Not a good situation at all.

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Herm needed a 3 technique DT to make his "system" work, so we drafted RObertson. 2 years later we bring in Donnie with a different defense and now that DROB trade up looks like a waste where we could have laid back and scooped up William JOseph and Nick Barrnett. Herm didnt need 2 solid cover corners like Glenn and Coleman, he needed 2, slow, physical cover corners like Abraham and Beasley and one of the all time slowest safeties in Sam Garnes to make his system work. After we brought in those scrubs (sans Abraham who was a solid player) Herm realized that putting together one of the slowest secondaries in the history of the NFL was a wise way to defend an NFL passing game. 2 years later, Garnes is out of the league after we cut him, Beasley is touring the NFL giving every team a workout and what did herm beg for after teh 2003 season? Thats right, he was begging for cover corners again. Brilliant.

Lets not forget about Herm's brilliant idea of attempting to make Shaun Ellis into his WARREN Sapp his first season here.

Herm has absolutely no understanding of talent.

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Lets not forget about Herm's brilliant idea of attempting to make Shaun Ellis into his WARREN Sapp his first season here.

Herm is a disease.

Speaking of which...am I the only one who cringes when I see Thomas playing DT on passing downs?

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Speaking of which...am I the only one who cringes when I see Thomas playing DT on passing downs?

On passing downs its no big deal. Put the idiot Herm trie dto make ellis and every down DT when everybody with the slightest clue knew he had no chance to succeed there no matter how much weight he put on.He just doesnt have DT's body.

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