SayNoToDMC Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So i will ask again. Who will fire Sparano ? New GM ? And what if a good candidate for OC becomes available in the meantime. Even Woody with all his football IQ shouldn't need to outsource this decision, but who the **** knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 take your victory lap TS, today is your day I can't do it. Tannenbaum won. He ruined the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Now that Mike Tannenbaum is out as the Jets' general manager, let's take a look at names likely on the team's radar. Woody Johnson announced that Rex Ryan will remain as coach, so a candidate who has ties to Ryan might help. Jerry Angelo, former Bears GM -- A well-respected football man who built the Bears' 2006 Super Bowl team. He went 87-73 during an 11-year run as the Bears' GM. Spent last season out of football, looking to get back in. David Caldwell, Falcons, director of player personnel -- A Bill Polian protege who spent a decade as a Colts scout. Has been linked to several potential openings. Has spent only one season in current role, working with highly regarded GM Thomas Dimitroff. Joey Clinkscales, Raiders, director of player personnel -- Knows the ins and outs of the Jets' organization, having served as vice president of college scouting from 2008 to 2012. Prior to that, he was a longtime scout for the Jets. Scott Cohen, Jets, assistant GM -- The top in-house candidate. Has worked closely with Tannenbaum since 2008, mostly scouting in pro personnel. Previously, worked for the Eagles. Eric DeCosta, Ravens, assistant GM -- Has been linked to several GM openings in recent years, but signed a lucrative deal last January to remain with Ravens. Seen as Ozzie Newsome's heir apparent. Has a background with Ryan. John Dorsey, Packers, director of football operations -- Has spent most of his career in Green Bay. Worked at the side of Ron Wolf, one of the best GMs in history. Worked his way up from a college scout. Brian Gaine, Dolphins, assistant GM -- Considered a rising star in league circles. A native New Yorker, a former practice-squad TE for the Jets and a former Jets scout. Learned the business from Bill Parcells. Strong scouting background. Knows the AFC East. Tom Gamble, 49ers, director of player personnel -- Has been linked to potential openings in Jacksonville and Cleveland. Served as Jets defensive assistant in 1995-96. Also spent time under Polian with the Colts. Solid resume. George Kokinis, Ravens, personnel assistant -- Familiar with Ryan from their days in Baltimore together. Has spent most of career with the Ravens, but served as the Browns' GM in 2009 before losing a power struggle to then-coach Eric Mangini. Bill Polian, former Colts GM -- One of the most accomplished personnel men in history, having built Super Bowl teams in Buffalo and Indianapolis. Now works as an ESPN analyst. The question is, at age 70, does he want back in? Link: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/19553/potential-gm-candidates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 On a competent franchise, he would have been out with Mangini. Btw, a big FU shout-out to all you dicks who've defended Tannenbaum for the last seven years. You're clueless dicks. Classy. What are you 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 agree which is why I think they agreed in Principal already with someone (Marc Ross). the fact they changed course and didnt keep Tanny as Cap Guy tells me the folks Woody talked to last week said they wouldnt come if Tanny still here. Plus, Ross pulled his name from panthers search 2 days ago after he was #1 choice and contract was already being negotiated. odd timing?? Hope so If they had someone set up why hire a search consultant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Now that Mike Tannenbaum is out as the Jets' general manager, let's take a look at names likely on the team's radar. Woody Johnson announced that Rex Ryan will remain as coach, so a candidate who has ties to Ryan might help. Jerry Angelo, former Bears GM -- A well-respected football man who built the Bears' 2006 Super Bowl team. He went 87-73 during an 11-year run as the Bears' GM. Spent last season out of football, looking to get back in. David Caldwell, Falcons, director of player personnel -- A Bill Polian protege who spent a decade as a Colts scout. Has been linked to several potential openings. Has spent only one season in current role, working with highly regarded GM Thomas Dimitroff. Joey Clinkscales, Raiders, director of player personnel -- Knows the ins and outs of the Jets' organization, having served as vice president of college scouting from 2008 to 2012. Prior to that, he was a longtime scout for the Jets. Scott Cohen, Jets, assistant GM -- The top in-house candidate. Has worked closely with Tannenbaum since 2008, mostly scouting in pro personnel. Previously, worked for the Eagles. Eric DeCosta, Ravens, assistant GM -- Has been linked to several GM openings in recent years, but signed a lucrative deal last January to remain with Ravens. Seen as Ozzie Newsome's heir apparent. Has a background with Ryan. John Dorsey, Packers, director of football operations -- Has spent most of his career in Green Bay. Worked at the side of Ron Wolf, one of the best GMs in history. Worked his way up from a college scout. Brian Gaine, Dolphins, assistant GM -- Considered a rising star in league circles. A native New Yorker, a former practice-squad TE for the Jets and a former Jets scout. Learned the business from Bill Parcells. Strong scouting background. Knows the AFC East. Tom Gamble, 49ers, director of player personnel -- Has been linked to potential openings in Jacksonville and Cleveland. Served as Jets defensive assistant in 1995-96. Also spent time under Polian with the Colts. Solid resume. George Kokinis, Ravens, personnel assistant -- Familiar with Ryan from their days in Baltimore together. Has spent most of career with the Ravens, but served as the Browns' GM in 2009 before losing a power struggle to then-coach Eric Mangini. Bill Polian, former Colts GM -- One of the most accomplished personnel men in history, having built Super Bowl teams in Buffalo and Indianapolis. Now works as an ESPN analyst. The question is, at age 70, does he want back in? Link: http://espn.go.com/b...l-gm-candidates Give us some more Scott Cohen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Jets RapidReports@CBSJets #Jets just cancelled Rex Ryan's press conference scheduled for 4:45pm had been cancelled. Team official availability now TBA... Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Jerry Angelo, former Bears GM -- A well-respected football man really? by who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 really? by who Hey Bit, don't shoot the messenger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Jets RapidReports@CBSJets #Jets just cancelled Rex Ryan's press conference scheduled for 4:45pm had been cancelled. Team official availability now TBA... Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite Not good for Rex. Maybe the new GM still gets to decide his fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Jets RapidReports@CBSJets #Jets just cancelled Rex Ryan's press conference scheduled for 4:45pm had been cancelled. Team official availability now TBA... Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite The first good move of 2013. Keep Rex away from the microphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Lol, so typical, morons Keeping Rex is not as stupid as you say. Even if you are 100% correct in your assessment of him, which I'm not certain you are. Unless you think that a new coach/new GM can make us a contender next year (I don't), then it really doesn't matter. Next year is about clearing salary and acquiring good, young talent. That's the only thing that matters. Let Rex deal with the mess for the first year and if somehow it turns out well, you haven't abandoned a pretty solid X's and O's guy. If not, you bring in a new guy with a stronger foundation and less of a disaster on his hands. All we should be hoping for right now is a couple good draft picks and a veteran to replace the Sanchize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Now that Mike Tannenbaum is out as the Jets' general manager, let's take a look at names likely on the team's radar. Woody Johnson announced that Rex Ryan will remain as coach, so a candidate who has ties to Ryan might help. Jerry Angelo, former Bears GM -- A well-respected football man who built the Bears' 2006 Super Bowl team. He went 87-73 during an 11-year run as the Bears' GM. Spent last season out of football, looking to get back in. David Caldwell, Falcons, director of player personnel -- A Bill Polian protege who spent a decade as a Colts scout. Has been linked to several potential openings. Has spent only one season in current role, working with highly regarded GM Thomas Dimitroff. Joey Clinkscales, Raiders, director of player personnel -- Knows the ins and outs of the Jets' organization, having served as vice president of college scouting from 2008 to 2012. Prior to that, he was a longtime scout for the Jets. Scott Cohen, Jets, assistant GM -- The top in-house candidate. Has worked closely with Tannenbaum since 2008, mostly scouting in pro personnel. Previously, worked for the Eagles. Eric DeCosta, Ravens, assistant GM -- Has been linked to several GM openings in recent years, but signed a lucrative deal last January to remain with Ravens. Seen as Ozzie Newsome's heir apparent. Has a background with Ryan. John Dorsey, Packers, director of football operations -- Has spent most of his career in Green Bay. Worked at the side of Ron Wolf, one of the best GMs in history. Worked his way up from a college scout. Brian Gaine, Dolphins, assistant GM -- Considered a rising star in league circles. A native New Yorker, a former practice-squad TE for the Jets and a former Jets scout. Learned the business from Bill Parcells. Strong scouting background. Knows the AFC East. Tom Gamble, 49ers, director of player personnel -- Has been linked to potential openings in Jacksonville and Cleveland. Served as Jets defensive assistant in 1995-96. Also spent time under Polian with the Colts. Solid resume. George Kokinis, Ravens, personnel assistant -- Familiar with Ryan from their days in Baltimore together. Has spent most of career with the Ravens, but served as the Browns' GM in 2009 before losing a power struggle to then-coach Eric Mangini. Bill Polian, former Colts GM -- One of the most accomplished personnel men in history, having built Super Bowl teams in Buffalo and Indianapolis. Now works as an ESPN analyst. The question is, at age 70, does he want back in? Link: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/19553/potential-gm-candidates DeCosta, Gaine, and Gamble are the types of people I'd like to see brought in. I'd add Kokinis, but losing a power struggle to Mangini doesn't bode we'll for him. The Jets need to bring in a boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 DeCosta, Gaine, and Gamble are the types of people I'd like to see brought in. I'd add Kokinis, but losing a power struggle to Mangini doesn't bode we'll for him. The Jets need to bring in a boss. I agree. Those three candidates are my early favorites too. I would add Gamble too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Joey Clinkscales! The guy that brought us Vernon Gholston! Yay! 2008 is when our drafts started going to sh*t and the two guys mentioned from within were our scouts during that time frame. Why not go back to when we were drafting starters? You're the godfather of the ilk. Too likeable. Classy. What are you 12? Is this the first time you've seen him post? First time you've seen any of us post? This place is basically an overweight homo-erotic junior high school lockerroom. If they had someone set up why hire a search consultant? Is it possible this has something to do with the EEo rules? I know they have to interview minority candidates for coaching openings. Do they have to do that for the GM search as well? Having a consultant involved can insure that you follow all the rules and you can pass the liability off to them if you violate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Not good for Rex. Maybe the new GM still gets to decide his fate. That would make to much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Jets RapidReports@CBSJets #Jets just cancelled Rex Ryan's press conference scheduled for 4:45pm had been cancelled. Team official availability now TBA... Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite AKA hiding him from the media until the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Jets RapidReports@CBSJets #Jets just cancelled Rex Ryan's press conference scheduled for 4:45pm had been cancelled. Team official availability now TBA... Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite DOOMED! WE'RE DOOMED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I wonder who the new GM will target with the first pick in the august mini-draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 AKA hiding him from the media until the draft. Rex just wants to make the early bird at Rod's Steakhouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Keeping Rex is not as stupid as you say. Even if you are 100% correct in your assessment of him, which I'm not certain you are. Unless you think that a new coach/new GM can make us a contender next year (I don't), then it really doesn't matter. Next year is about clearing salary and acquiring good, young talent. That's the only thing that matters. Let Rex deal with the mess for the first year and if somehow it turns out well, you haven't abandoned a pretty solid X's and O's guy. If not, you bring in a new guy with a stronger foundation and less of a disaster on his hands. All we should be hoping for right now is a couple good draft picks and a veteran to replace the Sanchize. This is where I've been for a while. There's gonna be some pain next year. The new GM can give Rex a chance with some new talent. If it doesn't work out, the new GM can then blame Rex and clean house next year. Unfortunately, I'm sure there's some Woody saving money crap going on in there, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Keeping Rex is not as stupid as you say. Even if you are 100% correct in your assessment of him, which I'm not certain you are. Unless you think that a new coach/new GM can make us a contender next year (I don't), then it really doesn't matter. Next year is about clearing salary and acquiring good, young talent. That's the only thing that matters. Let Rex deal with the mess for the first year and if somehow it turns out well, you haven't abandoned a pretty solid X's and O's guy. If not, you bring in a new guy with a stronger foundation and less of a disaster on his hands. All we should be hoping for right now is a couple good draft picks and a veteran to replace the Sanchize. I would much rather a coach and GM build a team in concert, in their own mold so that they can draft personnel to fit that mold. Keeping Rex on for one year to serve as a martyr for his sins makes no sense. Get on with all the dirty business now. We all realize next years team will be an abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 This is where I've been for a while. There's gonna be some pain next year. The new GM can give Rex a chance with some new talent. If it doesn't work out, the new GM can then blame Rex and clean house next year. Unfortunately, I'm sure there's some Woody saving money crap going on in there, too. And...... the process of truly rebuilding get delayed further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 My first question to anyone getting an interview would be, "what do you think of Rex Ryan as a head coach?" My first question to Woody would be, "what happens if the new GM wants to choose his own coach?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Still don't think Rex is back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Now that Mike Tannenbaum is out as the Jets' general manager, let's take a look at names likely on the team's radar. Woody Johnson announced that Rex Ryan will remain as coach, so a candidate who has ties to Ryan might help. Jerry Angelo, former Bears GM -- A well-respected football man who built the Bears' 2006 Super Bowl team. He went 87-73 during an 11-year run as the Bears' GM. Spent last season out of football, looking to get back in. David Caldwell, Falcons, director of player personnel -- A Bill Polian protege who spent a decade as a Colts scout. Has been linked to several potential openings. Has spent only one season in current role, working with highly regarded GM Thomas Dimitroff. Joey Clinkscales, Raiders, director of player personnel -- Knows the ins and outs of the Jets' organization, having served as vice president of college scouting from 2008 to 2012. Prior to that, he was a longtime scout for the Jets. Scott Cohen, Jets, assistant GM -- The top in-house candidate. Has worked closely with Tannenbaum since 2008, mostly scouting in pro personnel. Previously, worked for the Eagles. Eric DeCosta, Ravens, assistant GM -- Has been linked to several GM openings in recent years, but signed a lucrative deal last January to remain with Ravens. Seen as Ozzie Newsome's heir apparent. Has a background with Ryan. John Dorsey, Packers, director of football operations -- Has spent most of his career in Green Bay. Worked at the side of Ron Wolf, one of the best GMs in history. Worked his way up from a college scout. Brian Gaine, Dolphins, assistant GM -- Considered a rising star in league circles. A native New Yorker, a former practice-squad TE for the Jets and a former Jets scout. Learned the business from Bill Parcells. Strong scouting background. Knows the AFC East. Tom Gamble, 49ers, director of player personnel -- Has been linked to potential openings in Jacksonville and Cleveland. Served as Jets defensive assistant in 1995-96. Also spent time under Polian with the Colts. Solid resume. George Kokinis, Ravens, personnel assistant -- Familiar with Ryan from their days in Baltimore together. Has spent most of career with the Ravens, but served as the Browns' GM in 2009 before losing a power struggle to then-coach Eric Mangini. Bill Polian, former Colts GM -- One of the most accomplished personnel men in history, having built Super Bowl teams in Buffalo and Indianapolis. Now works as an ESPN analyst. The question is, at age 70, does he want back in? Link: http://espn.go.com/b...l-gm-candidates Put a big red X on Clinckscale's forehead. Do not want. But, then again, I wouldn't put it past Woody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I would much rather a coach and GM build a team in concert, in their own mold so that they can draft personnel to fit that mold. Keeping Rex on for one year to serve as a martyr for his sins makes no sense. Get on with all the dirty business now. We all realize next years team will be an abortion. Let it be one. You want to find out who has character? Let it go all Lord of the Flies up in here and we will see who stands for what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Let it be one. You want to find out who has character? Let it go all Lord of the Flies up in here and we will see who stands for what. Time for the entirety of the circus to pack up its tent and leave town. To keep the ringleader serves no purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 If you do it the right way the New GM will want his own team members- so Rex still may not be safe if Woody does it the right way-which I doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You're the godfather of the ilk. ...more like the gentile Henny Youngman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Remmber Rex is the one who said this is the best team he had before the year started. Less talk and more action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Too likeable. Clearly, you haven't met my wife either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 This is where I've been for a while. There's gonna be some pain next year. The new GM can give Rex a chance with some new talent. If it doesn't work out, the new GM can then blame Rex and clean house next year. Unfortunately, I'm sure there's some Woody saving money crap going on in there, too. There absolutely is. But, you know what, Woody's gotta swallow Sanchez's 8.2 million, plus money to tannenbaum and sporano. Is it the end of the world for him to not throw out another 6M in a rebuilding year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Keeping Rex is not as stupid as you say. Even if you are 100% correct in your assessment of him, which I'm not certain you are. Unless you think that a new coach/new GM can make us a contender next year (I don't), then it really doesn't matter. Next year is about clearing salary and acquiring good, young talent. That's the only thing that matters. Let Rex deal with the mess for the first year and if somehow it turns out well, you haven't abandoned a pretty solid X's and O's guy. If not, you bring in a new guy with a stronger foundation and less of a disaster on his hands. All we should be hoping for right now is a couple good draft picks and a veteran to replace the Sanchize. This decision is not about next year, it is about the future. We will never get a good GM contingent upon having to keep Rex here. First off, everyone good will realize that if the going gets tough, they will be gone before the coach, second, any good GM will want to bring in a coach they are comfortable with. So this is huge strike 1. Next, even if we get an Alex Smith, we are no better than an 8-8 team next year. I don't want an Alex Smith, I want a true franchise QB, and I want a big time offense that has a chance to someday win a SB! You don't get big time franchise QB's picking in the middle of the first round, unless you are lucky as sh*t, and we are not. Second, Rex has shown horrible judgement, when it comes to offense, both in coaching choices and in personnel choices. I have zero, absolutely zero faith that Rex and the new "must keep Rex" GM will be able to instill an NFL offense. This is typical Jets, no long term plan, lets play it one year at a time. We will be below average, to average at best next year, and miss out on a good draft pick, and will be stuck with Rex and an Alex Smith type QB. Every year we will be praying to squeeze out wins with our defense and poor offense, and hoping for breaks to get into the playoffs. It's not the worst situation, but its not what I want as a fan. I want championships, I want a team that every year is a legitimate contender to be a champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I would much rather a coach and GM build a team in concert, in their own mold so that they can draft personnel to fit that mold. Keeping Rex on for one year to serve as a martyr for his sins makes no sense. Get on with all the dirty business now. We all realize next years team will be an abortion. It's year 1. We're in cap hell, and we don't have a full slate of draft picks... And, by all accounts, it's a weak draft. This year is about gutting, and adding 1 or 2 pieces. The real rebuild comes after next year. Patience, Dierking-son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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