jetscanes331 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Jaguars requested permission from Rams to interview OC Brian Schottenheimer for their HC job, per league source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Aw, Jacksonville. Have fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 um LOL ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) ROTFL or something. Coulda had Dave Caldwell! Edited January 10, 2013 by SenorGato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscanes331 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Get used to hearing 'Jones-Drew up the middle for a gain of 1' and 'Fullback goes in motion, Gabbert throws to the TE for a gain of 5 on 3rd-and-7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 That's why i was never for a GM coming in getting a new HC just for the heck of it. Give credit to Woody for sticking with Rex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Get used to hearing 'Jones-Drew up the middle for a gain of 1' and 'Fullback goes in motion, Gabbert throws to the TE for a gain of 5 on 3rd-and-7' Just as it's designed. Gabbert to Lewis can make the other thing happen too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Who knows. He was a bad OC, but maybe he'd be a good HC. What was Marty S really ever known for? His teams always won, couldn't win the big games, but it wasn't like Marty was some offensive or defensive guru. I wouldn't say Brian is going to be some super successful HC, but you never know. If he takes advice from his father about how to be a HC, he might actually be pretty good. He might never win anything, but he'd make it to the playoffs. The idea would be to hire a good OC, good DC, some good assistants and just win. I mean people say Parcells never won without BB. BB hasn't won without Crennel and Weiss. Dick Vermeil won with Mike Martz. Rex Ryan is one hell of a DC, i'm not sold on him being a HC. Norv Turner was one hell of an OC years ago, he's a bad HC. There is no rhyme or reason to what really makes a great HC. Some great Offensive minds suck as a HC. Some great defensive minds suck as a HC. Edited January 10, 2013 by pedro55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Minority candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Yes, this is why you don't just fire your head coach without looking at what else is out there. Can you *&*&*% imagine if Shotty was coaching both sides of the ball here? What would a B. Shot defense look like? Also can you imagine if Tebow goes to JAX? A Shotty offense with Tebow at the helm? ROFLcopter! Edited January 10, 2013 by stoicsentry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Dammit, see if we'd have fired Rex we could have a shot at this guy. Dammit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscanes331 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Yes, this is why you don't just fire your head coach without looking at what else is out there. Can you *&*&*% imagine if Shotty was coaching both sides of the ball here? What would a B. Shot defense look like? Also can you imagine if Tebow goes to JAX? A Shotty offense with Tebow at the helm? ROFLcopter! Based on what they said today Tebow isn't going to Jax. In all fairness, we had success with Brad Smith out of the wildcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Doing this just to **** with Jets fans. Book it. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Based on what they said today Tebow isn't going to Jax. In all fairness, we had success with Brad Smith out of the wildcat. What who said? Jax or us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Crazy that Jacksonville would let the new GM fire the coach. I wonder if that was a factor in the GM taking that job???????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I don't know why this is such a surprise, he's been touted as a better HC than a coordinator by just about everyone he's worked for or with. Pretty sure it's been mentioned numerous times over his tenure here that he was going to eventually become a good HC, regardless of his ability as a coordinator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Crazy that Jacksonville would let the new GM fire the coach. I wonder if that was a factor in the GM taking that job???????????????? Possibly, but it's a lot easier convince an owner to fire someone like Mularky who has sucked in every stint as a head coach he's had. He hasn't even flashed signs of becoming a good one. At least with Rex he's shown some ability; now it's on management to put a FO in place to augment his positives and curtail his negatives, which is the part where I lose faith in them. I think Rex has promise, but I don't think it'll be fulfilled here unless he either learns from all his mistakes quicker than he's been accustomed to or the team finally gets some strong-willed decision-makers above him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscanes331 Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 What who said? Jax or us? Jax GM Caldwell said he can't envision a scenario where Tebow is a Jaguar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius del Sol Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Jets offensive DVOA 2011 -8.3% 2012 -20.6%. Rams offensive DVOA 2011 -27.2% 2012 -4.7%. Sanchez DVOA 2011 -12.5% 2012 -29.9%. Bradford DVOA 2011 -24.2% 2012 -1.2%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 This is a clear negotiation tatic. Jets...go get your man back! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Just imagine if Caldwell had accepted the JETS job with the pre-condition that he gets to fire Rex, then fired Rex and then ask permission to interview Schotty. I am sure 90% of the board would have had an aneurism! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Schotty was scapegoated. Sparano was worse. And it was all Sanchez's fault anyway. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Just imagine if Caldwell had accepted the JETS job with the pre-condition that he gets to fire Rex, then fired Rex and then ask permission to interview Schotty. I am sure 90% of the board would have had an aneurism! hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Schotty was scapegoated. Sparano was worse. And it was all Sanchez's fault anyway. Sanchez sucks. True. Schotty was scapegoated. False. Sparano was worse. Also true. But Sparano being worse didn't excuse Schotty's 3rd & 8 handoffs to Greene up the middle for 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Here is the part that nobody will agree with but it is the truth. Schotty will get a chance to be a head coach in this league and he could be a good one. I am not saying he will be. Just saying that because he was a mediocre O\C doesn't mean he can't be a good head coach. He will have coordinators on both sides of the ball and he will be the leader of the team. If he is good at that, he could be a good head coach. Now you can all start not agreeing with me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Here is the part that nobody will agree with but it is the truth. Schotty will get a chance to be a head coach in this league and he could be a good one. I am not saying he will be. Just saying that because he was a mediocre O\C doesn't mean he can't be a good head coach. He will have coordinators on both sides of the ball and he will be the leader of the team. If he is good at that, he could be a good head coach. Now you can all start not agreeing with me. This, plus it will all depend on if he has a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I don't know why this is such a surprise, he's been touted as a better HC than a coordinator by just about everyone he's worked for or with. Pretty sure it's been mentioned numerous times over his tenure here that he was going to eventually become a good HC, regardless of his ability as a coordinator. Here is the part that nobody will agree with but it is the truth. Schotty will get a chance to be a head coach in this league and he could be a good one. I am not saying he will be. Just saying that because he was a mediocre O\C doesn't mean he can't be a good head coach. He will have coordinators on both sides of the ball and he will be the leader of the team. If he is good at that, he could be a good head coach. Now you can all start not agreeing with me. Having Brian Schottenheimer on your team as the HC is only a good thing in the capacity that he would not be on your team as the OC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) But Sparano being worse didn't excuse Schotty's 3rd & 8 handoffs to Greene up the middle for 2. it's not great but the reason why coaches make that decision is because passing is higher risk. That's why they trotted Tim Tebow on the field. To limit the exposure of turnover machine Mark Sanchez. I play alot of devils advocate because I believe we should try to walk in another man's shoes. We are jets fans and our jobs aren't on the line when they lose. If my paycheck was on the line, yeah I might call the draw too. Gutless and safe that's how the kids get to go to private school. football wise my problem with Schotty was all his damn pre-snap motions. like anyone really believed the fullback was catching a pass out in the WR position. But it was a misdirection offense and every other team in the league does similar. he probably will be a long time HC jets fans, just prepare yourself for that. at least a Marvin Lewis type of small city institution. My problem with the decision to fire Schotty is the lack of clear upgrades. Don't just change every 4 years just because they lost and you're mad. That's "punch a wall" thinking. The Jets could fire Rex and get the HC version of Tony Sparano. It is possible if not likely. It takes time to learn new play books. The "doesn't make the Jets better" has become a ha-ha meme for the board but I stand by it, at least in the case of firing Rex. Firing talented coaches is not a cure all for all that ails the Jets. In fact we will look back on Rex's D with fond memories. Edited January 11, 2013 by bitonti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Here is the part that nobody will agree with but it is the truth. Schotty will get a chance to be a head coach in this league and he could be a good one. I am not saying he will be. Just saying that because he was a mediocre O\C doesn't mean he can't be a good head coach. He will have coordinators on both sides of the ball and he will be the leader of the team. If he is good at that, he could be a good head coach. Now you can all start not agreeing with me. I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Here is the part that nobody will agree with but it is the truth. Schotty will get a chance to be a head coach in this league and he could be a good one. I am not saying he will be. Just saying that because he was a mediocre O\C doesn't mean he can't be a good head coach. He will have coordinators on both sides of the ball and he will be the leader of the team. If he is good at that, he could be a good head coach. Now you can all start not agreeing with me. Way to take all the fun out of disagreeing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 This, plus it will all depend on if he has a QB. Yeah...a good QB cures a lot of problems. Or so I am told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Here is the part that nobody will agree with but it is the truth. Schotty will get a chance to be a head coach in this league and he could be a good one. I am not saying he will be. Just saying that because he was a mediocre O\C doesn't mean he can't be a good head coach. He will have coordinators on both sides of the ball and he will be the leader of the team. If he is good at that, he could be a good head coach. Now you can all start not agreeing with me. It will depend on who they draft as a QB and who he hires as OC & DC. If he brings Norv Turner in as OC, people in Jetsland will still bash the move, but if Norv Turner came to the Jets, they'd love the move. That's just the way things work. I doubt Turner winds up in Jacksonville though. But Cam Cameron did work for his father, and I think that would be a decent move. But again, it all depends on the QB they wind up with. Edited January 11, 2013 by pedro55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Way to take all the fun out of disagreeing! I make things unfun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I make things unfun. We can see that. But it hurts the post count. Disagreements is where the secret fountain of number of posts lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 We can see that. But it hurts the post count. Disagreements is where the secret fountain of number of posts lie. Seriously? I never thought about that possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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