Jets2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Since we will clearly be rebuilding and Shonn Greene is halfway out the door, who are we going to look to at RB? I like Bilal Powell and McKnight shows flashes but I think we need to bring in a talent who could possibly become an All Pro feature back for us. Originally I wasn't crazy about this year's crop of RBs but after looking more closely I see a lot of potential in a few of them. I say we spend our 2nd round pick on a RB over a QB and wait for a home run QB next year since the $ and the tattoo signal to us that we are kinda stuck with him for now. #1 Eddie Lacy could end up being the best NFL RB Alabama has churned out in recent memory (yes including Ingram and Richardson) so if he can fall to us early in 2nd we should take a look. #2 Jawan Jamison...I really like the combo of speed and power here in Rutgers Jamison...reminds me of Ray Rice and Doug Martin...maybe a bit smaller than those two but still has feature back potential. #3 Montee Ball has a nose for the end zone and has done nothing but perform brilliantly his whole college career. Since he didn't leave school and declare last year (which he should have) after losing key players around him including Russell Wilson he still had over 20 TDs and a very productive season. Could be a potential feature back and also a value pick 3rd round or even later. What are your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 there's actually about 5 really good RB in the senior bowl next week. Johnathan Franklin UCLA could be a beast in the league, one of the last true 3 down backs. Gillislee had a great year. Ellington and Rouse are gamebreakers and Stephan Taylor pretty good too. senior Bowl RB's as of 1/16 RUNNING BACKS KENJON BARNER - OREGON JOHNATHAN FRANKLIN - UCLA MIKE GILLISLEE - FLORIDA TOMMY BOHANON - WAKE FOREST ANDRE ELLINGTON - CLEMSON STEPFAN TAYLOR - STANFORD KYLE JUSZCZYK- HARVARD ROBBIE ROUSE - FRESNO STATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 So we should draft a running back in the second round because Rex Ryan has a tattoo? Am I reading this correctly? Did you eat paint chips as a child? There are far more pressing needs than a franchise running back, which there doesn't seem to be one in this draft. I'm all for taking a running back later on in the 5th or 6th, where plenty of decent RBs will still be and addressing more pressing needs, like everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Good play design and a line that can block, along with a QB who can pass a little and we dont need a franchise RB. We can find a decent guy and have him do a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 We need to find big plays from somewhere and none of the backs on this roster are capable of that....so yeah its certainly a need. Being able to catch a pass would help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 a line that can block, Jets OL was 5th in PFF rankings for 2012. how about a quarterback that is functional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Jets OL was 5th in PFF rankings for 2012. how about a quarterback that is functional And a running back that can make people miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Jets OL was 5th in PFF rankings for 2012. how about a quarterback that is functional Guess you missed the part I said about QB. oh thats right. you clipped it when you quoted me. nice. The OL stunk. I dont care what the f3eking numbers said. They failed so many times in key situations. But keep living the fantasy we have a good line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Shonn Greene might find FA to be not too inviting, and could be back inexpensively. I like him as a late game pounder, just not as a feature back. I agree the Jets need an upgrade at RB. The position is a committee job nowadays, so I wouldn't need a three-down guy. I want a guy with breakaway speed and the ability to catch a pass fluidly. As for the draft: BAP all the way! If a RB is the BAP in the second round, take him. If a RB doesn't float to the top of the draft board until the sixth, wait 'til the sixth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 we aren't taking a RB in the 1st. i see the jets re-signing greene if he doesn't get serious nibbles in FA and picking up a change of pace late. i'd be happy with a dexter mccluster type who gives us some speed out of the backfield and something in the return game. i doubt very much we're going to get a bell cow this offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 agree take best player available in draft. if that happens to be a rb then so be it. My favorites are Kenjon Barner, Montee Ball, Gillislee, or Lattimore in a late round situation. It would be nice to have someone who can catch and has breakaway speed for once. Havnt had that since leon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 The OL stunk. I dont care what the f3eking numbers said. They failed so many times in key situations. But keep living the fantasy we have a good line. if you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 if you say so. I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I do. A bad QB makes everyone look bad. Give the Jets a decent QB the line would look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 we aren't taking a RB in the 1st. i see the jets re-signing greene if he doesn't get serious nibbles in FA and picking up a change of pace late. i'd be happy with a dexter mccluster type who gives us some speed out of the backfield and something in the return game. i doubt very much we're going to get a bell cow this offseason I don't. I see the Jets having Powell (who is better than Greene) being the feature back and signing someone like Justin Forsett who can be the change of pace guy and catch the ball out of the backfield. That's what I would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I don't. I see the Jets having Powell (who is better than Greene) being the feature back and signing someone like Justin Forsett who can be the change of pace guy and catch the ball out of the backfield. That's what I would do. looks like we're agreeing on a strategy but disagreeing on the personnel. your plan sounds good also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Shonn Greene- the least elusive starting RB in football. Congrats Shonn. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/16/signature-stats-elusive-rating/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Since we will clearly be rebuilding and Shonn Greene is halfway out the door, who are we going to look to at RB? I like Bilal Powell and McKnight shows flashes but I think we need to bring in a talent who could possibly become an All Pro feature back for us. Originally I wasn't crazy about this year's crop of RBs but after looking more closely I see a lot of potential in a few of them. I say we spend our 2nd round pick on a RB over a QB and wait for a home run QB next year since the $ and the tattoo signal to us that we are kinda stuck with him for now. #1 Eddie Lacy could end up being the best NFL RB Alabama has churned out in recent memory (yes including Ingram and Richardson) so if he can fall to us early in 2nd we should take a look. #2 Jawan Jamison...I really like the combo of speed and power here in Rutgers Jamison...reminds me of Ray Rice and Doug Martin...maybe a bit smaller than those two but still has feature back potential. #3 Montee Ball has a nose for the end zone and has done nothing but perform brilliantly his whole college career. Since he didn't leave school and declare last year (which he should have) after losing key players around him including Russell Wilson he still had over 20 TDs and a very productive season. Could be a potential feature back and also a value pick 3rd round or even later. What are your thoughts Richardson >>>>>>> Lacy and its not close. Otherwise, yes, a RB is needed but taking one before the 3rd round would be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 A bad QB makes everyone look bad. Give the Jets a decent QB the line would look great. Rex has already proven he isn't going to do that. But I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Shonn Greene- the least elusive starting RB in football. Congrats Shonn. https://www.profootb...elusive-rating/ Lulz - like this is a surprise. Redman is elusive? Interesting, he looks like a plodder when he runs too. Over half of Greene's yards this year were after contact though. I found that interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Lulz - like this is a surprise. Redman is elusive? Interesting, he looks like a plodder when he runs too. Over half of Greene's yards this year were after contact though. I found that interesting. Redman in limited carried actually did make a lot of people miss...especially in that Giants game. Never undterstood why Dwyer got carries over him....he's a plodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 If we wait until a later round then I like either Montee Ball or Ray Graham....Ray Graham could be an great back. Low center of gravity, speed with some power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 How many franchise RBs are there? The league is going in a different direction. Plus, if you do have a franchise RB, having a pedestrian OL in front of him limits his abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 there's actually about 5 really good RB in the senior bowl next week. Johnathan Franklin UCLA could be a beast in the league, one of the last true 3 down backs. Gillislee had a great year. Ellington and Rouse are gamebreakers and Stephan Taylor pretty good too. senior Bowl RB's as of 1/16 RUNNING BACKS KENJON BARNER - OREGON JOHNATHAN FRANKLIN - UCLA MIKE GILLISLEE - FLORIDA TOMMY BOHANON - WAKE FOREST ANDRE ELLINGTON - CLEMSON STEPFAN TAYLOR - STANFORD KYLE JUSZCZYK- HARVARD ROBBIE ROUSE - FRESNO STATE I like Taylor too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 How many franchise RBs are there? The league is going in a different direction. Plus, if you do have a franchise RB, having a pedestrian OL in front of him limits his abilities. Its not about being a franchise back...its the ability to be versatile...Greene provided no threat of catching a pass out of the backfield or making a defender miss....you cant run a predictable offense anymore with the amount of speed these defenses have. Niners, Ravens, Pats, Falcons all have multiple guys who can both pound through the LOS and take a swing pass the distance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Redman in limited carried actually did make a lot of people miss...especially in that Giants game. Never undterstood why Dwyer got carries over him....he's a plodder. I was getting the two confused. Redman does have some wiggle but shocked to see him at the top of the most elusive list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 A bad QB makes everyone look bad. Give the Jets a decent QB the line would look great. I dont disagree....but the organization does. Spoke to somebody this week who knows a front office person and they think Sanchez didn't have the pieces around him that he needs to be successful. Sad but true :-/ I think things get worse before they get better unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Just a thought....what about Mendenhall assuming he isn't in Pitt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I ****ing hate the use of the word FRANCHISE! You do not often find a franchise player in the 3rd round. You are talking about a starter, not a franchise player. I'd say there is one franchise RB right now, Peterson. Maybe a couple of other guys you can make a case for, but not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 You realize that many have as #1 or #2 rated RB this year in draft is none of the guys mentioned here? Gio Bernard is rated #1 or 2 by most scouts. 2nd round though. No RBs have 1st round projections as of now. http://www.collegefootballuniverseblog.com/1/post/2013/01/nfl-draft-2013-big-board-linemen-stack-the-board-number-one-pick-still-wide-open.html http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=105320&draftyear=2015&genpos=RB http://www.tfdssports.com/2013-articles/january/2013-nfl-draft-ranking-the-runningbacks.html http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12/14/3726410/gio-bernard-is-nfl-drafts-top.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Burning even a 2nd round pick in the upcoming draft is a luxury-pick. The Jets have far too many holes that need filing to even think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 a decent wide receiver is needed before even thinking about a running back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Burning even a 2nd round pick in the upcoming draft is a luxury-pick. The Jets have far too many holes that need filing to even think about it. Running back is one of their biggest holes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Burning even a 2nd round pick in the upcoming draft is a luxury-pick. The Jets have far too many holes that need filing to even think about it. a decent wide receiver is needed before even thinking about a running back... Disagree. They have Powell and McKnight under contract. Compared to Kerley, Holmes and Hill that is an empty spot. As with every position I would sign low level FAs and then pick BAP, but if the BAP is a RB they should certainly take one. RB is a huge hole on this team. Most people felt that way when Greene was here and he is by far the closest thing to a legit starter on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Running back is one of their biggest holes though. They can shore up the RB position later in the draft or by FA acquisition. Besides, BPA in the 2nd round is far more likely to be an OL or LB the way the things are shaping up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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